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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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MoosakaWithFries · 23/01/2025 13:44

The British are far more reserved about discussing finances/salaries than Americans...and you're hearing this from a British viewpoint.

mumzof4x · 23/01/2025 13:44

OP how you arrange your finances is your business and what works for you may not for someone else
My dh earns lots more than me but insisted all the money was put into one pot .... that's the way he is but I appreciate may not work for many
If however that conversation happened with his dm (who he is also very close to but so am I ) I would also be upset.
As long I've you've discussed this now he will more understand that there is a. boundary here. Can you maybe just draw a line under it now ?
I hope you enjoy planning your wedding and future it's exciting

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:44

Ihopeyouhavent · 23/01/2025 13:41

You sound very jealous of your partners relationship with mum 🙄

I just don’t want her living in our places. I can accept based on these responses that telling her about our home repairs and such is normal but finances since that involves me as well if I don’t want his mother that heavily involved in our financial set up to that degree as his soon to be wife my feelings should come first on that. There is no reason that is any of her business. What good can come out of his mother who naturally is a biased party having access to that? I can see cultural differences based on the responses are at plan here but my fiancé and I are both American. If I tried telling my own mother Pitt set up she would think I was crazy and tell me honey that’s between you and your fiance.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:48

mumzof4x · 23/01/2025 13:44

OP how you arrange your finances is your business and what works for you may not for someone else
My dh earns lots more than me but insisted all the money was put into one pot .... that's the way he is but I appreciate may not work for many
If however that conversation happened with his dm (who he is also very close to but so am I ) I would also be upset.
As long I've you've discussed this now he will more understand that there is a. boundary here. Can you maybe just draw a line under it now ?
I hope you enjoy planning your wedding and future it's exciting

Thank you for your supportive words thru really mean a lot! To be fair I never explicitly set the boundary about not discussing our personal finances with him but I figured that was a common sense given in a relationship/soon to be marriage. But based on the responses here cultural norms vary and I appreciate what may be common sense to me isn’t to everyone. I think I need to let my anger go since I didn’t explicitly discuss that boundary with my fiancé. Moving forward I think I will politely set a boundary with him that finances between us as a couple and our set up and what we make and all that isn’t discussed.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:49

mumzof4x · 23/01/2025 13:44

OP how you arrange your finances is your business and what works for you may not for someone else
My dh earns lots more than me but insisted all the money was put into one pot .... that's the way he is but I appreciate may not work for many
If however that conversation happened with his dm (who he is also very close to but so am I ) I would also be upset.
As long I've you've discussed this now he will more understand that there is a. boundary here. Can you maybe just draw a line under it now ?
I hope you enjoy planning your wedding and future it's exciting

also sorry to feral post but to your first line I think that’s why I got my back up so much about it. “How you arrange your finances is your business” that’s the whole crux of the issue it’s our business not his mother’s and he invited her into our business

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SapphireOpal · 23/01/2025 13:49

TAAT?

LuluBlakey1 · 23/01/2025 13:51

It's none of her business but the issue is your DP over-sharing with his mother and giving her the impression it is her business. He needs to understand what is private to you as a couple and what is shareable.

Macaroni46 · 23/01/2025 13:51

Not the point of the post I know but toilet trees had me chuckling. I've got visions of trees with toilets hanging off the branches 😂

Meadowfinch · 23/01/2025 13:51

I'm with you OP. Your partner needs to decide whether you are the most important woman in his life, and he needs to respect your privacy, or his mum is more important and he is going to serve your private business up for public viewing.

He's told his mum that he is paying two thirds of the bills and you are paying one third. A lot of mums would not be happy with that arrangement and it can cause trouble in the future..

The way things are at the moment, I strongly suggest you do not share anything personal about your health or your career, because he will just pass it on.

Hard to have a trusting open relationship in such circumstances.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:52

MoosakaWithFries · 23/01/2025 13:26

I think you're overreacting here. It seems a very British thing not to discuss finances/salaries but I think it's completely fine for him to speak with his mother about the set up that you both have.

My DM knows my salary, income etc. She also knows how myself and my DP contribute to our financial set up. I don't see any problem in that.

That being said, I haven't shared my DPs income. That's for him to share with her if he wanted, and tbh I'm sure he'd have no issue with me discussing that either.

But I am half of that financial set up so yes if I don’t want that discussed I feel my fiancé need to respect that boundary. If finances are between a couple why did he need to discuss that with his mother in the first place? To get her approved? Her ok? Just not sure why he feels his mother is owed an exact financial breakdown. That’s what I worry about in our future him inviting his mother into our marriage by telling her things that aren’t her business. Like what is he hoping to accomplish by doing that? I’m worried he is trying to seek her approval. It feels like he should be putting my feelings first

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reichs79 · 23/01/2025 13:52

As a pp said the Brits are far more reserved than Americans when it comes to finances!

I can't however see the problem. If he chose to share that information with his mother than that's his choice. Maybe he wanted her advice?

As for speaking everyday- I either speak or text daily with my adult ds's, and I hope it continues as I get older and they're married!

Cluedoless · 23/01/2025 13:54

Does his mother interfere in your life? Does she do anything that hurts you or troubles you? Does talking to his mother cause any actual problems in your life?

If not or till any of the above apply, I think, what he talks about with his mother is none of your business.

UndermyShoeJoe · 23/01/2025 13:56

Yeah I don’t want my mil knowing my wages or what our bills are. Why would she even need to know.

I also don’t get needing to talk about every tiny repair or even every day either. Surely yeah had to get a plumber out as the sink was blocked is a very dull conversation. Oh how was it blocked. potatoes.

Had to change the livingroom bulb today as it died. Like who wants to know this stuff.

Rickrolypoly · 23/01/2025 13:56

The responses on MN are just so random sometimes- on another day you'd have a barrage of people telling you to LTB as he's a mummy's boy.

OP-for what it's worth I would not appreciate my DH telling anyone details about our finances. I wouldn't mind general things like, "we have a joint bank account for household expenses" but not specifics on contributions and percentages etc..

One thing I dont understand is this " We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not" but then you go on to say he pays the mortgage and you pay all the other bills. Where does the mortgage come out of? Is it the joint account?
Also- why are you doing all the housework and home repairs?? WTF?

YaWeeFurryBastard · 23/01/2025 13:57

Sorry but you sound quite controlling and determined to assert yourself with all this “we are so in love” “we have the perfect relationship” “people always say how in love we are”, when actually you are coming across as deeply insecure about this man’s (from what I can see) normal relationship with his mother.

I think you need to get some counselling before entering into marriage or the relationship has the potential to turn very toxic.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:57

Meadowfinch · 23/01/2025 13:51

I'm with you OP. Your partner needs to decide whether you are the most important woman in his life, and he needs to respect your privacy, or his mum is more important and he is going to serve your private business up for public viewing.

He's told his mum that he is paying two thirds of the bills and you are paying one third. A lot of mums would not be happy with that arrangement and it can cause trouble in the future..

The way things are at the moment, I strongly suggest you do not share anything personal about your health or your career, because he will just pass it on.

Hard to have a trusting open relationship in such circumstances.

Yes I guess while in general I feel he puts me first and I’m the most important woman in his life. I feel in this one specific area he put his mom first and above me. We are two adults in an adult committed relationship of many years and it feels very childish to try and get his mother’s approval for our personal finance set up. I guess my thing is why and what? Why did he feel his mother was owed that information? What was he hoping to gain by telling his mother this? Well now he has a very upset and hurt fiancé. Yes I feel like he violated my privacy since I’m half of that financial set up with no regards to my feelings. In every other area he always puts me first and puts my feelings front and center but this he didn’t think twice about my privacy when volunteering this information to his mother. I feel like he served our private business on a silver platter. I feel like this is a two yes one no situation. Things that are just his like his truck repair if he wants to share every detail of that with his mother fine you don’t need 2 yeses. But things that affect both of us if both parties don’t agree to that being shared then sorry it shouldn’t be shared

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shellyleppard · 23/01/2025 13:57

What's a toilet tree???

KenAdams · 23/01/2025 13:57

Janbluesuary · 23/01/2025 13:36

Surely this is a reverse of the post the mother posted yesterday where she was told to butt out

I thought the same! It's got to be.

Autumn38 · 23/01/2025 13:57

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:31

Im American so I do accept maybe it’s an American thing to be more private about a couple’s finances. Good to know in other cultures people are more open about it. I appreciate that perspective. That gives me food for thought.

i Chat to my mum every day and would tell her how we set up our finances.

Your fiancé’s relationship with his mum is not strange or unusual. You just aren’t used to it. Can you live with it though? It wouldn’t be fair to expect him to change once married. I’d have been devastated if my DH had expected my relationship with my mum to change just because I married him.

JadeSeahorse · 23/01/2025 13:58

I think I understand where you are coming from
ThisQuickJadeWasp.

My DH had a habit of disclosing details of our financial set up - and sometimes actual amounts 🙄 - with his elder sister with whom we are both close. She too lives quite far away.

I too started to get pretty miffed about this so I reminded DH that money, investments, savings, pensions etc. we had was OUR personal business and I really didn't like him discussing same with his dsis. (Similar to your dfiance, it was just part of their conversation so DH didn't really think about.)

I suggested examples of how he could hold the same conversation without giving specifics and he is much better now.

Honestly not worth having a major row about as it sounds as if you have a great setup. I think he just needs to understand your feelings around this differ slightly from yours. Life would be very boring if we were all exactly the same.

Incidentally. We used to split the bills very similar to yourselves and now our mortgage is paid off DH pays for all holidays, treats etc. and saves the rest and transfers half into my savings account.
(If I ever decide to leave the prat - not a chance 😁 - he has ensured I can live a VERY comfortable life.👍)
We never had joint accounts as I don't think they existed properly when we married 45 years ago
But it's worked great for us all these years. 😁

Just sit him down and have a non confrontational chat. He sounds a good guy so I'm sure you'll be able to sort this easily. You have to remember that men are such idiots at times.😂

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 13:58

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:41

It’s the laying out our exact financial set up to a T that bothers me. No reason that is any of her business or she needs to know that. Some information need to be left between the couple. Finances and in-laws/family don’t mix unless of course one is providing financial help which isn’t the case for us. I guess to me finances are a private thing. I don’t share that information with my parents. I think if I’m not comfortable with that aspect of our relationship being shared there is nothing wrong with me expressing that need to keep that between the two of us. It’s all how I word it. If I say something like, “hey honey I would appreciate it if our financial information between us would stay between the two of us I feel more comfortable that way and don’t want anyone involved in our personal relationship set up to that degree.”

I do appreciate what others are saying though that it might be a cultural difference as I am not British I am American. So maybe in other cultures finances aren’t considered as private. However my fiancé is American as well. It just wouldn’t cross my mind to share something like that with my parents.

also the talking everyday thing just seems a little enmeshed. A bit teetering on mommas boy territory and I want to avoid that. I talk once a week to my parents and I consider us close. But again you guys say it’s a normal amount so maybe it’s me and my normal meter is broken.

im taking on all the feedback.

Finances and in-laws/family don’t mix unless of course one is providing financial help which isn’t the case for us.

You keep saying this, sounds like you’re annoyed she doesn’t give you money.

I suspect you would lay out the red carpet for her if she was giving you money hand over fist.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:58

YaWeeFurryBastard · 23/01/2025 13:57

Sorry but you sound quite controlling and determined to assert yourself with all this “we are so in love” “we have the perfect relationship” “people always say how in love we are”, when actually you are coming across as deeply insecure about this man’s (from what I can see) normal relationship with his mother.

I think you need to get some counselling before entering into marriage or the relationship has the potential to turn very toxic.

This is our financial set up. Breaking down as a nearly married man every detail of our financial set up is not healthy. Why does he feel his mother is owed that information? That’s my money too if I don’t want that shared why should it? Some things are private between a couple and that’s a healthy relationship and separation from parents is to form your family and keep certain things private.

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Dietingfool · 23/01/2025 13:59

You sound very immature here and I cannot see the issue here with him discussing finances with his mother, and trying to seperate your partner from his mother is going to cause resentment, and damage your relationship. If you really loved him you would not try to come between them.

MoosakaWithFries · 23/01/2025 14:01

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:52

But I am half of that financial set up so yes if I don’t want that discussed I feel my fiancé need to respect that boundary. If finances are between a couple why did he need to discuss that with his mother in the first place? To get her approved? Her ok? Just not sure why he feels his mother is owed an exact financial breakdown. That’s what I worry about in our future him inviting his mother into our marriage by telling her things that aren’t her business. Like what is he hoping to accomplish by doing that? I’m worried he is trying to seek her approval. It feels like he should be putting my feelings first

If when you're in a relationship (married or not, makes no difference) you can only talk to your partner about certain, quite normal things it becomes very restrictive. I'm thinking of your DP here and how this policing of his words will feel for him.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with an adult discussing a 'set up' with a close family member.

Can you give us some other examples of how him 'inviting' his DM into your relationship has caused you problems? And how are you going to cope if you have children? Will there be an embargo on chat about them too? Finances are not where you will stop with this OP.

Whycantitbetwentydegreesandsunny · 23/01/2025 14:01

There is nothing wrong with your partner and his mum being close. Plenty of women.speak to their mums everyday and say their mum is their best friend and tell their mums everything. This is no different unless she is interfering! Men are allowed to be close to their families too.

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