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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 08:01

Mymanyellow · 24/01/2025 06:16

His relationship with his mum is completely different from the one he has with you. It’s a different sort of love.
He doesn’t have to share his Christmas money with you. Would you wear his socks?
It’s not that his stepdad is more of a family member than you it’s just that they thought they would all go away together, nice bit of bonding time. You’re not joined at the hip.
Also a couple of times you’ve intimated that you will not let her have much of a relationship with any future dgc that is really nasty.
It’s not a competition he

The women probably just wanted a family trip away with all her kids before they get older. And I think you said he has two younger brothers or brothers at least. She probably just thought it would he a nice idea for them to hang out. It wasn’t about you. She didn’t ask him to come and meet her friend’s daughter to set them up. She wanted him to spend time with his family. As his partner you should be supporting things that you good for him. That is what you do when you love someone.

Your partner’s mother is entitled to send her son a gift without you picking it apart.

I wouldn’t want a relationship for my son where what he does and the conversations he has are policed to this extent. I find it very upsetting.

You want to control him. What you describe as true love is coming across more like youthful obsession.

Loving someone isn’t aggressively insisting you be involved in every part of their lives.

SoapySponge · 24/01/2025 08:27

Strikes me as the most natural thing in the world. I think you are vastly over-reacting.

Itisjustmyopinion · 24/01/2025 09:05

It is concerning that someone who is so black and white in their thinking and not willing to take on other points of view is teaching children. I hope this tunnel vision and controlling language doesn’t come across in the day job. It is promising that you are doing counselling as it’s important to recognise in a relationship that other points of view to yours are just as needed

You keep saying you must be number one because you are his fiancé but in healthy family relationships different people can be just as important as others, including your partner, but from a different perspective

I don’t know if it’s your different background to the majority of posters or your age but your way of thinking is very immature and I have relatives of your age who seem a lot more grown up than you based on your responses.

There are a lot of words in your posts but very little listening seems to be happening as you just seem to repeat the same narrative in multiple posts

justasking111 · 24/01/2025 09:22

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 05:28

It says a lot about the healthcare system when someone can get to 25 years of age without anyone picking up on the huge flag-waving personality disorder on parade here. It's almost unbelievable.

I know but took me a while to realise

PeppyGreenFinch · 24/01/2025 09:27

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 02:44

This. The whole we are so madly in love repeated several times when not needed to tell the story risks sounds controlling and/or competitive with his mother.

It cones across as if you feel defensive given your are paying less.

Lots of people call their mothers daily. It sounds like something he wants rather than anything to do with her being lonely.

Yep and the effusive ‘we’ve built a life together’ after just 3 years of living together.

Cluedoless · 24/01/2025 09:48

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 22:42

yes im about to be his wife of course I want to be number one. Do you really think a man should put his wife or soon to be wife secondary to his mom?

Oh op. After your post where you said you apologised to your dh for overreacting I really thought you had started to see sense but your subsequent posts are quite concerning. I hate a pile up on mumsnet but in this case I can't help but agree with the majority. I think you need counselling (you on your own) to help you with your fears and insecurity and this need to have your partner prove to you that you are number one. That is not normal and it is very unhealthy. You will make both of you miserable.

You need to feel secure in your own self without constantly looking for signs that will prove to you whether you are number one or not. Do you think that sounds like a fulfilling happy life? Constantly swinging between loathing your partner (calling him enmeshed and mommy's boy) and thinking you are romeo and Juliet? This level of possessiveness, jealousy and wanting to control is not healthy, op. If it was a man behaving this way I'd say it's the first sign of abuse. Maybe your mil doesn't treat you very respectfully and thst sucks but you cannot fix that by controlling how often and about what he speaks to her.

You say it's because it's your finances as well but everything in your life is going to be shared now. Does he have to get permission from you to talk about anything? Does he have to keep watching what he says in case it is about something that is.somehow related to you as well? Op, again focus on your dirext relationship with your dh and focus on your direct relationship with your mil but if you want to have a future together you need to stay out of his relationships with others especially his family. Unless they are directly and practically affecting you they are none of your buinsess.

saraclara · 24/01/2025 09:58

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:19

Because finances are private they involve me as well. Why does a man nearly 30 still need to get support from his mother? What is she giving him that I’m not?

Virtually every Mumsnet with a living mum that she loves will talk to her about all sorts of stuff and rely on her support at times. Why do you consider that a man should not? That's incredibly sexist.

As was said fairly early on, any man who is half way as close to his mum as many women are, runs the risk of being called a mummy's boy, or have people talk about cutting the apron strings. No-one ever says the equivalent to a 30 year old woman.

My late DH was close to his mum and his care for her is was among the things that endeared him to me.

There's a lot said on here about MILs competing for their sons, but you are doing the same. You can't bear that you are not the only woman in his life. You seem to think that he should just dispense with his mother now that he has you.

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 10:20

saraclara · 24/01/2025 09:58

Virtually every Mumsnet with a living mum that she loves will talk to her about all sorts of stuff and rely on her support at times. Why do you consider that a man should not? That's incredibly sexist.

As was said fairly early on, any man who is half way as close to his mum as many women are, runs the risk of being called a mummy's boy, or have people talk about cutting the apron strings. No-one ever says the equivalent to a 30 year old woman.

My late DH was close to his mum and his care for her is was among the things that endeared him to me.

There's a lot said on here about MILs competing for their sons, but you are doing the same. You can't bear that you are not the only woman in his life. You seem to think that he should just dispense with his mother now that he has you.

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I fully support my DH maintaining a great relationship with his mum. And I hope that any future DIL would do the same.

I often sometimes send my OH up to his parents without me as I understand that it’s easier for them to have a fully frank conversation without me.

The OP cites other threads about MILs to support her argument that her MIL should do X and Y. People responding to those threads are responding to a specific set of facts.

I, like most parents, have put a lot of work into raising my children. I think about schools, hobbies etc. I want my children grow up to have happy adult lives.

I understand that my children may pick a life partner that I wouldn’t have chosen or that possibly I think isn’t the best match. To a point I have to respect that. But if I felt that either my son or daughter had a partner who was excessively controlling I would sit my child down to discuss it.

Im not putting 20 years into of work in to help my child to become a happy balanced adult for someone with a lot of issues to come along and start limiting their life.

My best friend’s brother married a girl who is alcoholic. Before he did his parents sat him down and said if you marry this girl your life will be living with an alcoholic, we want to make sure that you understand the significant of that. He married her anyways but I feel as parents they had to have that conversation.

InWalksBarberalla · 24/01/2025 10:26

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 05:28

It says a lot about the healthcare system when someone can get to 25 years of age without anyone picking up on the huge flag-waving personality disorder on parade here. It's almost unbelievable.

It's completely unbelievable surely?

DancingFerret · 24/01/2025 10:56

InWalksBarberalla · 24/01/2025 10:26

It's completely unbelievable surely?

Completely unbelievable - and worrying that somehow the OP's very obvious "issues" were overlooked during her teacher training.

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 11:32

DancingFerret · 24/01/2025 10:56

Completely unbelievable - and worrying that somehow the OP's very obvious "issues" were overlooked during her teacher training.

For balance while I’d be concerned about the OP’s approach to her relationship I’d assume a lot of that is down to her young age and feelings of infatuation.

I haven’t read all of her posts but I wouldn’t necessarily assume it goes beyond that.

MangshorJhol · 24/01/2025 11:40

She’s 24, she’s not that young. But she is ‘madly in love’ in case we were in doubt. Not just in love, or reasonably in love, or very much in love, but madly.
And she must be no 1.

And she flits between the to be DH being a knight in shining armour and being mommy’s boy. It will be very very interesting if the OP one day has sons of her own. I would love to meet the OP in a couple of decades with three boys!

Meanwhile the step father than been with the MIL for 12 years but isn’t the DH’s ‘close family’ but she’s been with this guy for 5 and must be placed ahead of the MIL.

But most importantly, all questions about OP’s own relationship with her family have been brushed off with ‘they see us as one unit’. All talk of the unconditional love of parents seems to have been ignored. She keeps saying why is my MIL biased towards her son?! Because she’s his mom OP?!
I wonder if OP’s family is conservative and OP as the daughter has secondary status and OP’s family are also very keen to see this marriage happen/work and so the OP is feeling both pressure from her family and insecurity about her fiance.

MaryWhitehouseExperienced · 24/01/2025 11:42

The comments are starting to feel like an unpleasant pile-on. I don't like it.

Thisisgivingmereflux · 24/01/2025 11:57

Are you sure you work in a school or are you IN school? You sound about 15.

justasking111 · 24/01/2025 12:08

DancingFerret · 24/01/2025 10:56

Completely unbelievable - and worrying that somehow the OP's very obvious "issues" were overlooked during her teacher training.

Is she a teacher though it's pre school. Here that's nursery assistant territory rather than formal training.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:25

Mymanyellow · 24/01/2025 06:16

His relationship with his mum is completely different from the one he has with you. It’s a different sort of love.
He doesn’t have to share his Christmas money with you. Would you wear his socks?
It’s not that his stepdad is more of a family member than you it’s just that they thought they would all go away together, nice bit of bonding time. You’re not joined at the hip.
Also a couple of times you’ve intimated that you will not let her have much of a relationship with any future dgc that is really nasty.
It’s not a competition he

It’s odd to leave someone’s partner when they live together and are long term off the Christmas card. Usually Christmas cards (with whatever it contains) would be addressed to a household. Why wouldn’t it be? Socks are different they are tailored to one person. Where as money is generally something couples share. We have a joint account. I compare it more to receiving say a new TV for Christmas or a new appliance. We are partners and I live there should I run into another room whenever he watches that new tv because it wasn’t addressed to me or am I not allowed to use that air fryer?

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:27

LAMPS1 · 24/01/2025 06:35

My goodness OP, you really don’t want to let this drop do you.
Do you ever stop to take a breath, quietly reflect and adjust your thinking slightly.

Why did you bother to even ask ‘AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it?’ when you are 100% certain that you aren't ever unreasonable about anything.

Might I suggest that, when you have invited opinion from others, you could listen properly and stop being so quick to insist that your own repeated opinions and arguments are undeniably correct and true.

YABU because you cried over a harmless conversation your partner had with his mum about the way he organises his finances. He still exists as an individual OP with rights, choices, autonomy and personal thoughts, - even though, as you have stated a million times, you are engaged now and therefore to your mind, you are one unit, a unit which by all accounts should magically and automatically never be unaware of or disregard/forget what you want and feel.

In follow up posts, you appear dogmatic, argumentative, combative and repetitive, trying to convince yourself that the absolute and finite perfection of your love for each other puts you at number one spot. It’s clear this is very important to you and I feel you will be disappointed and crying a lot going forward.

This isn’t what you were asking, but my advice to you would be to postpone your wedding and give yourself time to think and mature. You are still very young.

Nope they weren’t just his finances they were OURS coming into the joint account.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:30

Zanatdy · 24/01/2025 06:42

I can understand why you wouldn’t want a MIL involved in every detail of your life but you’re making so much more of this and are coming across as jealous and some big red flags. The way you refer to your partner as a mummy’s boy etc is pretty offensive given you claim to be so in love with him. Don’t turn into a controlling bully.

It is ‘your fault’ you choose a career that doesn’t pay as well, clearly you knew that when you went into it. Your financial set up isn’t abnormal and on here most people say what each couple pay should be on a percentage. You shouldn’t be doing all the cleaning because you earn less. You need to change that.

You need to back off his relationship with his mum. Do not make him choose between you. Drop the jealousy and work on how you can improve your relationship with your MIL. If you claim to love this man as much as you say then you need to do this.

Then if this is such a normal set up based on percentages why am I getting attacked by some posters for our set up? And why anre some people just saying it’s his money if it’s joint annd this is a completely normal set up. The way some are talking around here you would think I wouldn’t have worked a day in my life and didn’t lift a finger. And underpaying your workers is a thing and it’s awful in the US.

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BetterWithPockets · 24/01/2025 12:31

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:47

Well no actually on here a lot of people are bean counting and saying bc he is making more it’s not a fair financial set up. Although yes I do admit I overreacted since according to my fiancé his mother didn’t try to sway or influence him one way or the other. I realize since he didn’t give her dollar amounts (as he shouldn’t) it’s not a major issue like I made it out to be. I still asked him to discuss it all together in the future with me involved since it doesn’t affect just him but me as well with a non biased party so not a parent more like a financial advisor if he has issues or questions. Or we could discuss it with his mom all together. Bc if he really and truly has my best interests at heart then this wouldn’t need to be a conversation away from me

OP, you’re clearly worried your fiancé is too enmeshed with his DM — and perhaps he is, which can’t be easy. Having said that, it also sounds as though you have very black & white ideas about what’s right/wrong and feel your way of doing things, or wanting to do things, is right; his way not… Yes, if he does things you don’t like, or that upset you, you can tell him how you feel, and/or why you don’t like it — but imo it should be a conversation, not one person dictating how both should/will behave.

Bc if he really and truly has my best interests at heart then this wouldn’t need to be a conversation away from me
But you’ve already said you overreacted because it was a casual conversation and he didn’t give her specifics. Why can’t he have conversations like that with his DM without involving you?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:32

MangshorJhol · 24/01/2025 11:40

She’s 24, she’s not that young. But she is ‘madly in love’ in case we were in doubt. Not just in love, or reasonably in love, or very much in love, but madly.
And she must be no 1.

And she flits between the to be DH being a knight in shining armour and being mommy’s boy. It will be very very interesting if the OP one day has sons of her own. I would love to meet the OP in a couple of decades with three boys!

Meanwhile the step father than been with the MIL for 12 years but isn’t the DH’s ‘close family’ but she’s been with this guy for 5 and must be placed ahead of the MIL.

But most importantly, all questions about OP’s own relationship with her family have been brushed off with ‘they see us as one unit’. All talk of the unconditional love of parents seems to have been ignored. She keeps saying why is my MIL biased towards her son?! Because she’s his mom OP?!
I wonder if OP’s family is conservative and OP as the daughter has secondary status and OP’s family are also very keen to see this marriage happen/work and so the OP is feeling both pressure from her family and insecurity about her fiance.

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You really think that he should place his mother above his soon to be wife? And not only that but you really think he should place someone else’s his mother’s husband as more family and more important to him than his own wife to be? That’s wild!! Why would another person’s spouse come before his own?!

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Anothernamechane · 24/01/2025 12:32

There's nothing wrong with talking to a parent about how you structure your finances. As long as he's not complaining about you.

There's also absolutely nothing wrong with speaking to a parent every day, as long as she's not interfering. Before I spoke to my mum we spoke every day and I'd say it's similar for most people I know who actually have a good relationship with their parents.

BetterWithPockets · 24/01/2025 12:34

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:27

Nope they weren’t just his finances they were OURS coming into the joint account.

Can’t quite believe this is the ONE thing you chose to respond to in that post, OP… Did you take on board (or even consider) anything else @LAMPS1 said?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:37

Mymanyellow · 24/01/2025 06:16

His relationship with his mum is completely different from the one he has with you. It’s a different sort of love.
He doesn’t have to share his Christmas money with you. Would you wear his socks?
It’s not that his stepdad is more of a family member than you it’s just that they thought they would all go away together, nice bit of bonding time. You’re not joined at the hip.
Also a couple of times you’ve intimated that you will not let her have much of a relationship with any future dgc that is really nasty.
It’s not a competition he

It’s rude when his mom has her partner that my fiancé is being told he can’t bring the woman he is anonymous to marry. Do you not see the irony in that? He wasn’t close to his stepfather he barely lived at home with him so to my fiancé he wasn’t an immediate family member. If his mother and her husband divorced he would be no longer family. I mean you all keep mentioning how I’m less important than his mom because we could break up as a reason I shouldn’t be invited. Well divorce rates are pretty high too. If they divorced this man would no longer be related to my fiancé. So yes I would expect if he is invited as a partner I should be as well. Once you have a set wedding date family things you should be invited on.

If a reverse was made and a soon to be mother in law came on here and said she was planning a family vacation with her husband (not the father of her kids) and her 3 sons and told her son his fiancé isn’t invited and be honest do you really think people on here would give her their support? Yes that’s a great idea to leave out to woman you son very much loves and plans on marrying. No the responses would be along the lines of don’t shut her out she could be the mother of your GC. She is family to your son.

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Itisjustmyopinion · 24/01/2025 12:38

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 12:27

Nope they weren’t just his finances they were OURS coming into the joint account.

This is your immaturity showing again. There was plenty of good points made by the poster and yet again you stamp your feet and shout something that you have already said multiple times

Completely ignoring everything else that is said

As others have said you came on for opinions and haven’t listened to a single piece that has been given from many people who are much further down the relationship road than you are

DancingFerret · 24/01/2025 12:42

At this point, I'm watching this thread solely for its entertainment value and wondering if it's one big wind-up.

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