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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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SuperMaybe · 24/01/2025 02:30

This seems familiar...

OP, I speak to my Mum most days and my adult children speak or message me every day or so. Not sure if that means we are all too emeshed but it works for us. We get along well and enjoy keeping in touch.

We would all chat about finances but would leave out the details of exact amounts involved - basically just what your husband had done.

I do t understand why you are so territorial about it. It doesn't matter. You aren't in competition with his mum - the comment about you worrying about three people being in the relationship is silly especially when she lives 13 hours away.

You should enjoy your relationship and not worry about silly things. You don't need to be jealous of his Mum or the affection and closeness he has for her.

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 02:44

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 13:38

I asked him why is he more worried about rocking the boat when it comes to his relationship with his mother than he is when is comes to my feelings. I mean metaphorically his mother is living in our pocket with open access to our lives at any given time served up on a silver platter by my fiance.

Your choice of words is really creepy. Do you want him to tread on eggshells around you so as not to upset you? Because that’s what it sounds like.

She is not being served anything on a platter, she is your son’s confidante, and that’s good because I think he’s going to need one.

This. The whole we are so madly in love repeated several times when not needed to tell the story risks sounds controlling and/or competitive with his mother.

It cones across as if you feel defensive given your are paying less.

Lots of people call their mothers daily. It sounds like something he wants rather than anything to do with her being lonely.

ImustLearn2Cook · 24/01/2025 02:47

@ThisQuickJadeWasp You have a lot of rules that you expect everyone else to follow, agree with and abide by. Not everyone lives by your rules and neither should they have to.

Yabu to be this upset with your partner for discussing your shared finances with his mother. He clearly didn’t know that it would bother you. So let it go.

Yanbu to communicate with each other and discuss each of your expectations of what is important to each of you in regard to what each of you want to be kept private within your relationship.

ImustLearn2Cook · 24/01/2025 02:50

FWIW Boundaries are about your choices in life, your decisions and your actions. Boundaries are not about controlling other people.

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 02:59

ImustLearn2Cook · 24/01/2025 02:50

FWIW Boundaries are about your choices in life, your decisions and your actions. Boundaries are not about controlling other people.

If my son or daughter got into a relationship at 24 with someone with such control issues I’d be very very concerned.

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 03:03

Wow, I feel sorry for this man.

RedMentor · 24/01/2025 03:12

Usually I am in agreement with the majority voice but very clearly I am the dissenting opinion here. My opinion is so far in the other direction I am almost speechless. I must say I am surprised that no one seems to be calling his mother out for her treatment of the OP. WTF are you guys on they own a whole ass house together and are engaged with a wedding date of course it's the expectation she would vacation with her fiance.

I think it's incredibly rude to tell someone their fiance isn't invited on a trip especially with it being mentioned it's not like they are paying for her fiance. He has long been moved out if they wanted to do one last hurrah the time to do that was before he moved out of his mom's home for good. He has already entered the next chapter as a man with his partner. So these vacations should really include her. If her son was young in high school or even just starting college and he lived at home I would get it a lot more. He is an adult in a relationship and at his age some people have children of their own that are nearly 10 years old. Seems his mother still has the umbilical cord tied to her son and still sees him as a young boy who can dictate who he brings and doesn't bring on a vacation. I am just trying to see how this played out since the OP mentioned at first her fiance thought she was invited. "Mom a vacation sounds like so much fun can't wait to tell OP" then what did his mom say back, "well no honey the woman you are married isn't actually invited." Like who says that? I've been married for 15 years now but once we bought our house together after being together for 6 years and any talks of vacations came up we just assumed we were invited together. We live together family functions/trips would naturally encompass both of us. The exception being like a girl's trip or a guy's trip but a whole family trip absolutely a partner/spouse should be invited. I would have been so thrown off if my BF's family was like nope you're not invited.

I personally think your future mother in law is being very rude maybe not so much in word but in action. She is sending a rude message loud and clear by leaving you off of Christmas cards instead of addressing the couple which is what you are and straight out telling your SO you aren't invited on the vacation when you guys have been together many years and are engaged with a set wedding date. That's definitely cold behavior and speaks volumes about what you will deal with for years to come because people don't suddenly change personalities and who they are after marriage. If your soon to be mother in law is excluding you now after how long you been with her son she isn't going to suddenly change after marriage. So I know you are very much in love with your guy and you feel he is the one and that's great I am happy for you but think long and hard because you will always be sidelined by his mother. His mother is his mother she isn't going away.

That being said the fact that his mother is still treating you this way leaving you out of holiday cards and vacations and basically ignoring your very existence and place in her son's life after all this time very obviously tells me that our fiance hasn't properly stood up for you or put you first in terms of his mother because I can guarantee with how close you describe them as being if your fiance did put his mother in her place and tell her to knock it off with being rude and shutting you out she would have stopped a long time ago because she wouldn't want to risk losing her relationship with her precious boy.

Also LOL at the comments that she is exploiting her fiance when OP mentions they both agreed together on their financial setup and she pays every single bill in that household, plus cleans the whole house by herself, cooks all the dinners without him ever pitching in. I agree someone is being exploited here and it certainly isn't her fiance. He is making out like a king here by treating OP like his servant rather than his partner by having her pay every single bill, clean the whole house, and cooking all the meals all to "make up" for the fact she makes less than him despite that she works full time therefore just as hard as he does. It's an absolutely disgusting way to treat your partner like they need to do chores despite the fact that their income is completely irrelevant to who has more down time at the end of the day/night. So I am not sure how the two correlate in terms of who makes more or less.

How does making less money if you work the same amount of hours equate to having more or less down time so your fiance's logic isn't adding up here. I also don't give a crap if you agreed to this arrangement of doing all the domestic duties in the home he should have not taking advantage of you or said, "now wait a second honey that's not fair just because you make less money that doesn't mean you don't work just as hard." The fact he continued on with this dynamic means he views you as nothing more as a servant who "owes" him and he doesn't value you as his partner and his equal because a real man who loves his partner and values her wouldn't agree to those totally unfair terms.

And because she makes less which through no fault of her own that her job is underpaid also means she should have less money to play around with? How is that fair? If you are the higher earner in the relationship and you know that is the person you want to marry it should be absolute common sense to not allow your partner to end up in a position to where they can't accrue any savings of their own because they don't make a lot of money. So yes that should be cushioned with the other income as well because again a romantic relationship is a give and take a team effort. It would be awful to be like welp I make more than two times you make so I am going to have so much money left over that I am going to make out like a king and buy myself a brand new car while you are over here struggling to buy a few new needed shirts the next week or to keep afloat. I don't want to hear the, "well if she was single nonsense" because she's not so talking about hypotheticals is pointless.

You also more than have the right to have whichever relationship you want to have with your MIL and put out what she gives you. So if she shuts you out from her family well then guess what you don't have to consider her part of your family either. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Plan a vacation and tell her her partner isn't welcome and see if she is singing the same tune about how it's ok to exclude someone's partner.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:15

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 02:44

This. The whole we are so madly in love repeated several times when not needed to tell the story risks sounds controlling and/or competitive with his mother.

It cones across as if you feel defensive given your are paying less.

Lots of people call their mothers daily. It sounds like something he wants rather than anything to do with her being lonely.

How does expressing my love for my partner mean I am controlling or am in competition with his mother?

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Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 03:25

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:15

How does expressing my love for my partner mean I am controlling or am in competition with his mother?

Because it's completely irrelevant. He's your fiancé so obviously you love him. That doesn't change the fact that he also has a mother who loves him.

the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 03:26

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:15

How does expressing my love for my partner mean I am controlling or am in competition with his mother?

It’s not needed to tell the story. Once fine, repeatedly why? If you are getting married I think most people would assume you are in love. The red flag is repeatedly telling us how mad about you he is, how you are his best friend, the language is controlling in places, repeating it constantly doesn’t help either.

You are in competition with his mother you literally said you want to be his no 1. She’s his mother not his affair partner. It’s a different relationship no number 1 or 2 s needed.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:29

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 03:25

Because it's completely irrelevant. He's your fiancé so obviously you love him. That doesn't change the fact that he also has a mother who loves him.

It’s not irrelevant to say I’m in love with my partner. I’m just demonstrating that my love for him is really strong. I was giving context that our love is very strong and we are very compatible. And no lots of people come on forums and say they are engaged but are unsure happens a lot. So I was making it clear how we are compatible and very much in love that isn’t the case for me. Where did I say that changes the fact his mother loves him?

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Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 03:36

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:29

It’s not irrelevant to say I’m in love with my partner. I’m just demonstrating that my love for him is really strong. I was giving context that our love is very strong and we are very compatible. And no lots of people come on forums and say they are engaged but are unsure happens a lot. So I was making it clear how we are compatible and very much in love that isn’t the case for me. Where did I say that changes the fact his mother loves him?

It definitely is irrelevant though. If he is your fiancé people will assume you're in love. And tbh you don't sound that compatible.

HoneyBee003 · 24/01/2025 03:38

I feel like this was a long-winded post when you could have just grumbled about how you don't like your MIL, or your DP's relationship with your MIL.

In your initial post, you've not mentioned any comments that she has made about the financial set-up... yet all your replies seem to indicate she's overbearing with him, and doesn't actually have/want a relationship with you.

Quite a lot of PPs have hit the nail on the head. You are being unreasonable and immature here. We can all appreciate there are things in a relationship that should stay between the couple, but there are ways to deal with that and set boundaries. Bursting into tears over this rings alarm bells for me (unless you are maybe experiencing a period of stress etc. - is that possible, given the renovations/upcoming wedding? Would you usually be emotional?) as it suggests to me that you might actually be unhappy with the how your contribution looks to others. FWIW, it's none of their business - what works for one couple, doesn't work for the next.

I'm glad you've set the boundary with your DP, because as you've recognised, he hasn't known that this is something you'd like to keep private. It's obviously something that is shared in his family/circle.

Perhaps you could spend some time reflecting on your relationship with your family, otherwise I think you're going to struggle being married to someone who has a closer (and what seems very normal) relationship with theirs.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:39

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 03:36

It definitely is irrelevant though. If he is your fiancé people will assume you're in love. And tbh you don't sound that compatible.

No it’s not I was giving context and background that we are very much in love. How is saying that I’m in love with my fiancé mean im in competition with his mother? So whenever I mention and tell him I love him should someone pipe up and say how dare you tell him that his mother loves him too.

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Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 03:44

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:39

No it’s not I was giving context and background that we are very much in love. How is saying that I’m in love with my fiancé mean im in competition with his mother? So whenever I mention and tell him I love him should someone pipe up and say how dare you tell him that his mother loves him too.

When you constantly bring up how in love you are with him, when talking about his mother, then yes, that's going to sound like you're in competition. There's no need to do that.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:46

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 03:44

When you constantly bring up how in love you are with him, when talking about his mother, then yes, that's going to sound like you're in competition. There's no need to do that.

Please explain how? I’m just pointing out I love him.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:47

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 03:44

When you constantly bring up how in love you are with him, when talking about his mother, then yes, that's going to sound like you're in competition. There's no need to do that.

my FMIL told my fiance she loved him the other day guess I should tell her not to say that bc she is being in competition with me as her son’s future wife

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the7Vabo · 24/01/2025 03:50

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:46

Please explain how? I’m just pointing out I love him.

You literally said you want to be no 1 when talking about his mother.

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 24/01/2025 03:51

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 03:47

my FMIL told my fiance she loved him the other day guess I should tell her not to say that bc she is being in competition with me as her son’s future wife

I'm really struggling to believe you're a teacher, if this is your level of comprehension.

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 05:28

It says a lot about the healthcare system when someone can get to 25 years of age without anyone picking up on the huge flag-waving personality disorder on parade here. It's almost unbelievable.

Mymanyellow · 24/01/2025 06:16

His relationship with his mum is completely different from the one he has with you. It’s a different sort of love.
He doesn’t have to share his Christmas money with you. Would you wear his socks?
It’s not that his stepdad is more of a family member than you it’s just that they thought they would all go away together, nice bit of bonding time. You’re not joined at the hip.
Also a couple of times you’ve intimated that you will not let her have much of a relationship with any future dgc that is really nasty.
It’s not a competition he

Completelyjo · 24/01/2025 06:22

I still want to know how you’ve seen his mother every weekend for 4 years, done long distance for a year and a half when he moved 13 hours away and yet still somehow lived with him in his new location for 3 years, all within a 5 year relationship 😂

myrtleWilson · 24/01/2025 06:35

How long must the OPs parents evenings take if her communication style matches with here? The poor janitor waiting to lock up would be downing flasks of coffee to stay awake

LAMPS1 · 24/01/2025 06:35

My goodness OP, you really don’t want to let this drop do you.
Do you ever stop to take a breath, quietly reflect and adjust your thinking slightly.

Why did you bother to even ask ‘AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it?’ when you are 100% certain that you aren't ever unreasonable about anything.

Might I suggest that, when you have invited opinion from others, you could listen properly and stop being so quick to insist that your own repeated opinions and arguments are undeniably correct and true.

YABU because you cried over a harmless conversation your partner had with his mum about the way he organises his finances. He still exists as an individual OP with rights, choices, autonomy and personal thoughts, - even though, as you have stated a million times, you are engaged now and therefore to your mind, you are one unit, a unit which by all accounts should magically and automatically never be unaware of or disregard/forget what you want and feel.

In follow up posts, you appear dogmatic, argumentative, combative and repetitive, trying to convince yourself that the absolute and finite perfection of your love for each other puts you at number one spot. It’s clear this is very important to you and I feel you will be disappointed and crying a lot going forward.

This isn’t what you were asking, but my advice to you would be to postpone your wedding and give yourself time to think and mature. You are still very young.

Zanatdy · 24/01/2025 06:42

I can understand why you wouldn’t want a MIL involved in every detail of your life but you’re making so much more of this and are coming across as jealous and some big red flags. The way you refer to your partner as a mummy’s boy etc is pretty offensive given you claim to be so in love with him. Don’t turn into a controlling bully.

It is ‘your fault’ you choose a career that doesn’t pay as well, clearly you knew that when you went into it. Your financial set up isn’t abnormal and on here most people say what each couple pay should be on a percentage. You shouldn’t be doing all the cleaning because you earn less. You need to change that.

You need to back off his relationship with his mum. Do not make him choose between you. Drop the jealousy and work on how you can improve your relationship with your MIL. If you claim to love this man as much as you say then you need to do this.

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