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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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Ellepff · 24/01/2025 00:38

Wait… she didn’t leave you out of Christmas…she just didn’t include you in a card that included his cheque? And until this phone call she didn’t know you share money.

I need to ask all my US friends in snow day states to quiz their preschool teachers.

I do want to thank you for your service today, I’ve been trapped under a feverish toddler and needed this

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 00:57

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 23:26

And her husband(not her son’s father) can come but her son’s fiance can’t despite that they own a home together and engaged. It’s rude and poor etiquette to plan a family vacation and leave someone’s long term significant other out when they operate as a family. The person I’m sure her son considers family.

I suspect she was trying to give her son a break from you so he could see the wood for
the trees.

On here though a lot of people despite us being engaged think we should have our finances set up like that of a business partnership or a roommate type situation. Where because I make less I’m left with a lot less and to me that’s not a true partnership. A true partner who loves you and sees a future with you wouldn’t want you to have a lot

Well wouldn’t she figure her son would just been with me if he had an issue? And the fact he told her mom if my fiancé isn’t invited then I’m not going obviously shows he prioritizes me which he should. I can’t imagine going on a family vacation where my fiance wasn’t invited.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 00:59

Ellepff · 24/01/2025 00:38

Wait… she didn’t leave you out of Christmas…she just didn’t include you in a card that included his cheque? And until this phone call she didn’t know you share money.

I need to ask all my US friends in snow day states to quiz their preschool teachers.

I do want to thank you for your service today, I’ve been trapped under a feverish toddler and needed this

So you think I’m lying about the snow day? And regardless if we shared money or not don’t you think it’s odd regardless of what was in the Xmas card to leave my name off the card as an engaged couple?

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 01:02

Namechangean · 23/01/2025 23:36

Again you sound really controlling. That’s the way you want things to be done and I’m not saying it’s unreasonable to want your future MIL to include you. But you don’t get to control her and how she wants to manage her relationship with her son. People go on holidays away from their partners all the time. You don’t have to live in one another’s pocket. You being there changes the dynamic. She’s just invited her children and she doesn’t have to follow your rules of ‘etiquette’. Your DP is certainly within his rights to decline the invitation. And it’s good he’s on the same page as you, he doesn’t want to go without you. Great. But what if he did? What if he said yes to going because it’s a family tradition or his last opportunity to spend time alone with his family before getting married?

It would be odd as the family dynamic already changed years ago before he moved out of the family home and being we already lived together and owned a home together for a few years how does marriage change that? The time that would change and to do that would be before he moved out of his family home but being we already lived together for a while and are engaged that transition should have already happened when he was younger and not 30. It would be weird if my own fiancé didn’t want me invited but wanted his mom’s partner around. It’s hypocritical she invites her partner but doesn’t respect her son’s relationship enough as her son is nearly 30 and not a little boy so his family trips should include his fiancé. Not sure why my fiancé wouldn’t consider me part of his family?

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miraxxx · 24/01/2025 01:07

Based on the utter demented tonedeafness and intractability of the OP here, I feel sorry for the bloke and his mum.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 01:10

sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 23:39

So it WAS just those two incidents then.. thought so! Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill, you seem to play the victim at every opportunity, it must be exhausting to be around you.

So his mum and partner planned the vacation and wanted to take the three children with them, of course they were paying for it, it wouldn't be up to them who came if they weren't planning and paying for it, so they were being fair by inviting their children and no partners along, your MILs partner doesn't count in this instance because they were the ones planning and paying for it, so to try and say if he's going you should go is entitled in the extreme.

I think it is obvious from your ramblings why your MIL has nothing to do with you, you are hell bent on making everything revolve around you and that's just now how healthy relationships work.

It’s not entitled it’s being consistent. If her partner gets to go the dynamics are already changed. Maybe to my fiancé his step father who he isn’t close with changes the dynamic of being with his mom and brothers. It should either be all SO or none. Of course it isn’t law they have to invite me but cmon now you have to see how it’s in poor form and rude to exclude me when her son is nearly 30 and treating his relationship like some 16 year old relationship rather than her adult son being in an adult committed relationship engaged with a wedding date and living together. It’s just super weird to tell someone they flat out can’t bring their partner. What if we never got married and were together many many years should I always be excluded? Of course my fiancé is going to put our relationship first and decline the invite when his fiancé is excluded especially bc it really upset me. So him going would be saying despite my mom rudely excluding my fiancé who will soon be my wife and it upsets her I’m going to go is giving her the green light and signing off on his mom’s rude behavior.

whine if it was reverse and my fiancé said he was planning a family trip and told his mom I’m invited and her and his brothers but she can’t bring her partner. Everyone would have his head for that and say wait no their relationship needs to be respected.

this is crazy the lengths you guys are going to justify her excluding me. She is paying for herself and her husband but not for my fiancé. He is paying his own way. Even if she was it would be super weird to pay his way and not us as a couple. You just don’t do that at this stage in the relationship

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 01:11

SomethingStinky · 23/01/2025 22:52

She planned a vacation with her, her husband, my fiance, and his brothers (we were engaged at the time and living together so rude I wasn’t invited) and when he said I will have to check our schedules she said she was only doing it the five of them

Were the other brothers partners invited or was it some quality time alone with their children? If either it was meant for just their children, or your fiance is the only one paired up, then it would make sense for it to just be them.

It’s not my husband’s stepfathers children. They have no children together. The man wasn’t even in the picture until my husband was 18 and he moved out of the family home two years after. This man is hardly his father. So that changes the dynamic for my husband. So again FMIL’s husband can go but her son’s partner isn’t invited.

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Runingoncaffeine · 24/01/2025 01:13

Red flag -lack of boundaries with mother

Runingoncaffeine · 24/01/2025 01:14

Are you sure you want to marry him? I know you are in love, but marriage is a serious commitment, and you need to be rational here.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 01:14

SomethingStinky · 23/01/2025 22:52

She planned a vacation with her, her husband, my fiance, and his brothers (we were engaged at the time and living together so rude I wasn’t invited) and when he said I will have to check our schedules she said she was only doing it the five of them

Were the other brothers partners invited or was it some quality time alone with their children? If either it was meant for just their children, or your fiance is the only one paired up, then it would make sense for it to just be them.

He is the only one paired up but his mom gets to bring her partner? Who is not any of the kid’s father but her son who is a grown man living in an adult relationship with his partner can’t be his? It’s not like this man raised him since birth my fiancé was 18 when he came into the picture so it’s hypocritical that she can bring her partner but he can’t bring his. To my fiancé I’m a lot more family to him than this man he met at 18

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Runingoncaffeine · 24/01/2025 01:16

I wouldn’t proceed with marriage at this time. There are far too many red flags here.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 01:19

Runingoncaffeine · 24/01/2025 01:14

Are you sure you want to marry him? I know you are in love, but marriage is a serious commitment, and you need to be rational here.

To be fair he did back me up on the vacation thing and the Christmas card thing and showed a united front by saying if my fiancé isn’t welcome then I’m not attending and told his mom we are engaged about to be married and living together cards should acknowledge both members of the couple unless it’s my birthday. But holiday cards yes. She did pitch a fit over the card and laid the guilt trip on him which many posters are conveniently overlooking by saying she is his mother and he will regret setting that boundary with her and blood is thicker than water. And the guilt trip didn’t work on him. He also said blood is thicker than water yet your partner isn’t my blood or your blood yet invited on this family vacation where as you are telling me at nearly 30 years old to leave the woman at home who I love and this is putting me in a bad position bc this will understandably so hurt and upset her and again not make her feel welcome. She wouldn’t budge. She isn’t paying for my fiancé either. This shows her true feelings for me and shows that she is willing to start off our relationship as MIL/DIL off on the wrong foot. I’m curious if I will suddenly be importantly to her once her grandchildren are born. Funny how I’m sure I will be family enough to where she will want open access to my children bc it’s her “right” as the grandmother.

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HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 01:19

It wasn't your fiancé's bloody holiday. It doesn't matter that he isn't related to his mother's partner. It wasn't his holiday. It was his mother's and her partner's holiday. Do you not understand that you and your fella are not the centre of the universe? Other people's existence isn't in relation to you or your fiancé.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 01:28

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 01:19

It wasn't your fiancé's bloody holiday. It doesn't matter that he isn't related to his mother's partner. It wasn't his holiday. It was his mother's and her partner's holiday. Do you not understand that you and your fella are not the centre of the universe? Other people's existence isn't in relation to you or your fiancé.

Yes but my point is she wants her relationship respected but doesn’t want to respect her son’s. We are engaged and live together family functions and trips we should be a package deal for. If it was just a mother and son trip totally get it. My fiancé and I are family to each and other we been through a lot together and the relationship should be respected. Just like she is free to invite whoever she wants her son is free to decline as well. He is an adult. He did decline and she got very upset. If my fiancé is paying for himself he should be able to bring his fiancé.

I am really shocked so many think this is perfectly ok or normal behavior. Clearly by doing this my FMIL isn’t looking at the big picture for years to come. People don’t tend to forget how people made them feel that doesn’t just go away and welcoming her son’s partner into the family before he is about to get married by slamming the door in her face once last time before the wedding isn’t the way into her DIL’s good graces. Clearly it’s already negatively affecting her relationship with her son since he told her he wasn’t going somewhere where his soon to be wife wasn’t welcome and to not leave me off of holiday cards/gfits. Also when grandchildren are born maybe I won’t be so quick to consider her part of my new little family since she doesn’t consider me part of hers or is not respecting her son’s relationship with his fiancé. I won’t be chomping at the bit to give her grandchildren time and why should I? I’m not family remember? So she’s not my family either. How you treat people has a funny way of coming back to bite you in the ass and what goes around comes around.

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HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 01:37

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 01:28

Yes but my point is she wants her relationship respected but doesn’t want to respect her son’s. We are engaged and live together family functions and trips we should be a package deal for. If it was just a mother and son trip totally get it. My fiancé and I are family to each and other we been through a lot together and the relationship should be respected. Just like she is free to invite whoever she wants her son is free to decline as well. He is an adult. He did decline and she got very upset. If my fiancé is paying for himself he should be able to bring his fiancé.

I am really shocked so many think this is perfectly ok or normal behavior. Clearly by doing this my FMIL isn’t looking at the big picture for years to come. People don’t tend to forget how people made them feel that doesn’t just go away and welcoming her son’s partner into the family before he is about to get married by slamming the door in her face once last time before the wedding isn’t the way into her DIL’s good graces. Clearly it’s already negatively affecting her relationship with her son since he told her he wasn’t going somewhere where his soon to be wife wasn’t welcome and to not leave me off of holiday cards/gfits. Also when grandchildren are born maybe I won’t be so quick to consider her part of my new little family since she doesn’t consider me part of hers or is not respecting her son’s relationship with his fiancé. I won’t be chomping at the bit to give her grandchildren time and why should I? I’m not family remember? So she’s not my family either. How you treat people has a funny way of coming back to bite you in the ass and what goes around comes around.

Who says she wants her relationship respected? Maybe she's like the rest of us and just gets on with it without expecting other people to worship her relationship with her partner. You are not her daughter. When you marry her son, you will still not be her daughter. She didn't choose you. Her son chose you. That is who you are in a relationship with. That is who you will be creating a family with. No matter how much you hate it, her son will always be her son. Nothing you do will change that.

It's interesting how you think you will control her seeing her grandchildren. Will your partner not get a say in that? You better be careful. If you go too far with your manipulation and control, he might wake up and see you for what you are.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 01:48

HollyKnight · 24/01/2025 01:37

Who says she wants her relationship respected? Maybe she's like the rest of us and just gets on with it without expecting other people to worship her relationship with her partner. You are not her daughter. When you marry her son, you will still not be her daughter. She didn't choose you. Her son chose you. That is who you are in a relationship with. That is who you will be creating a family with. No matter how much you hate it, her son will always be her son. Nothing you do will change that.

It's interesting how you think you will control her seeing her grandchildren. Will your partner not get a say in that? You better be careful. If you go too far with your manipulation and control, he might wake up and see you for what you are.

Please stop implying her relationship with her son trumps my relationship with my fiance. You keep saying her son her son putting my relationship as his fiance in a secondary position to her relationship to her son. You want to talk about manipulation and control sure we can have that conversation. Controlling who her adult son brings on vacation which is a sign she can’t cut the apron strings. Saying he will regret it later on bc he simply told her she needs to moving forward include me as his fiancé in Christmas cards. What about her transgressions? She isn’t innocent here either. Of course he will get a say in who sees the kids but I’m saying me myself I won’t be considering her part of my family with my husband and children if she says I’m not family. But yet she will be crying to my husband my DIL doesn’t keep things equal between the families in terms of the GC. Well the response to that would be why should she you made it clear she isn’t family and you haven’t respected her relationship with her husband so why should she? My fiancé already tried to show a united front in telling her that she excluded me and she needs to not do that so you think my husband will continue to be as close if she continues to push me out?

interesting how I need to respect his relationship and bond with his mother but she doesn’t need to respect our relationship as his fiancé and my bond with him.

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LondonLawyer · 24/01/2025 02:04

I talk to my mother most days. She's not lonely or weird, and neither am I. I actually like my Mum! Why wouldn't we be close? I talk to my Dad a fair bit, too, but not as often, he's not the chatty-by-phone type.

Discussing personal finances widely is very uncommon in the UK, I think, but discussing financial arrangements less so - how you arrange your money is different from the pounds, shillings and pence detail.

I don't see anything over-sharing here, and I'd be more worried about your determination to wall yourself off as a couple from his mother.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 02:05

LondonLawyer · 24/01/2025 02:04

I talk to my mother most days. She's not lonely or weird, and neither am I. I actually like my Mum! Why wouldn't we be close? I talk to my Dad a fair bit, too, but not as often, he's not the chatty-by-phone type.

Discussing personal finances widely is very uncommon in the UK, I think, but discussing financial arrangements less so - how you arrange your money is different from the pounds, shillings and pence detail.

I don't see anything over-sharing here, and I'd be more worried about your determination to wall yourself off as a couple from his mother.

Why is it concerning to consider our personal couple information private? Some people are more private than others that’s personality based.

its not walling off to have some boundaries as a couple. In fact most people would suggest it’s healthy for couples to have some degree of privacy about things that are for them as a couple.

also that’s part of healthy adult relationship with your parents as you grow older there is a sense of healthy adult separation. You are forming your own family and growing into an adult. The other extreme of over involvement form family is just as unhealthy.

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sandyhappypeople · 24/01/2025 02:11

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 01:10

It’s not entitled it’s being consistent. If her partner gets to go the dynamics are already changed. Maybe to my fiancé his step father who he isn’t close with changes the dynamic of being with his mom and brothers. It should either be all SO or none. Of course it isn’t law they have to invite me but cmon now you have to see how it’s in poor form and rude to exclude me when her son is nearly 30 and treating his relationship like some 16 year old relationship rather than her adult son being in an adult committed relationship engaged with a wedding date and living together. It’s just super weird to tell someone they flat out can’t bring their partner. What if we never got married and were together many many years should I always be excluded? Of course my fiancé is going to put our relationship first and decline the invite when his fiancé is excluded especially bc it really upset me. So him going would be saying despite my mom rudely excluding my fiancé who will soon be my wife and it upsets her I’m going to go is giving her the green light and signing off on his mom’s rude behavior.

whine if it was reverse and my fiancé said he was planning a family trip and told his mom I’m invited and her and his brothers but she can’t bring her partner. Everyone would have his head for that and say wait no their relationship needs to be respected.

this is crazy the lengths you guys are going to justify her excluding me. She is paying for herself and her husband but not for my fiancé. He is paying his own way. Even if she was it would be super weird to pay his way and not us as a couple. You just don’t do that at this stage in the relationship

It should either be all SO or none.

With regards to the two people organising it that is utter nonsense, if it the MIL and partner paying for and organising all this it would be assumed that they both would be going.. they are the parental figures and they have invited the children to go with them (plural), they were a family unit long before you came along and will be a family unit if you split up, and it would be perfectly normal for them to want to go on holiday as a family unit.

But.. lets follow the logic here.. all children should be free to bring partners, or NONE of them should, I agree with that, but that isn't what has happened, none were invited, and if all children bring partners you have turned a family trip of 5 people which is easy to accommodate, to a large trip of 8 (+ kids if the siblings have children), which is harder to accommodate, costs an awful lot more and will certainly not be as harmonious when you put 4 couples together who don't know each other very well.

But you haven't considered any of that, because you seem to only think about yourself and your own selfish wants and needs as more important than literally everything else, including your fiance or your relationship.

You don't want your future husband to discuss his day to day life with his mum in case he says something you aren't happy with, but you are quite happy to slag him off on here behind his back to anyone who will listen.

The double standards are incredible.

LondonLawyer · 24/01/2025 02:12

"Extreme over involvement" might well be a bad thing (extremes are almost always bad by definition, surely?) but I struggle to see anything you've said as being "extreme". "This is how we structure our finances" doesn't appear to me to be remotely over involved, especially as you say no figures were mentioned, just principles. Chatting to your Mum regularly doesn't appear to me to be "extreme" either.

My parents and my DH get on very well, and always have done, but obviously I want to spend more time with my family than he wants to spend with his in-laws. My Mum and I took our sons away for a week in Greece last summer - neither my Dad nor my DH came with us. No tantrums by anyone, we had a fantastic time, and Dad and DH were happy for us.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 02:21

sandyhappypeople · 24/01/2025 02:11

It should either be all SO or none.

With regards to the two people organising it that is utter nonsense, if it the MIL and partner paying for and organising all this it would be assumed that they both would be going.. they are the parental figures and they have invited the children to go with them (plural), they were a family unit long before you came along and will be a family unit if you split up, and it would be perfectly normal for them to want to go on holiday as a family unit.

But.. lets follow the logic here.. all children should be free to bring partners, or NONE of them should, I agree with that, but that isn't what has happened, none were invited, and if all children bring partners you have turned a family trip of 5 people which is easy to accommodate, to a large trip of 8 (+ kids if the siblings have children), which is harder to accommodate, costs an awful lot more and will certainly not be as harmonious when you put 4 couples together who don't know each other very well.

But you haven't considered any of that, because you seem to only think about yourself and your own selfish wants and needs as more important than literally everything else, including your fiance or your relationship.

You don't want your future husband to discuss his day to day life with his mum in case he says something you aren't happy with, but you are quite happy to slag him off on here behind his back to anyone who will listen.

The double standards are incredible.

I don’t think my fiancé considers the man he met when he was 18 close family. We are engaged why do you keep talking like we been dating 5 minutes? Or like his family is more important to him than me? You keep mentioning they are a family unit family unit but the mom and her husband could also split up just like me and my fiance can and then her husband is no longer family to my husband or his brothers bc he isn’t their dad.

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sandyhappypeople · 24/01/2025 02:22

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 02:05

Why is it concerning to consider our personal couple information private? Some people are more private than others that’s personality based.

its not walling off to have some boundaries as a couple. In fact most people would suggest it’s healthy for couples to have some degree of privacy about things that are for them as a couple.

also that’s part of healthy adult relationship with your parents as you grow older there is a sense of healthy adult separation. You are forming your own family and growing into an adult. The other extreme of over involvement form family is just as unhealthy.

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its not walling off to have some boundaries as a couple.

Except you don't have the same view on what those boundaries actually are, so no, you don't have boundaries 'as a couple', they are YOUR boundaries that you are forcing him to accept, you have decided for both of you where you draw the line and have cried and sulked until he has agreed with you and been forced to apologise.

It's not healthy behaviour, it's controlling, and it doesn't even mean he agrees with you, if he agreed with your 'boundaries' he wouldn't have shared that information in the first place, he has only apologised to keep the peace and to shut you up.

You are forcing him to modify his behaviour to please you, it is not the basis of a healthy marriage.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 02:24

sandyhappypeople · 24/01/2025 02:11

It should either be all SO or none.

With regards to the two people organising it that is utter nonsense, if it the MIL and partner paying for and organising all this it would be assumed that they both would be going.. they are the parental figures and they have invited the children to go with them (plural), they were a family unit long before you came along and will be a family unit if you split up, and it would be perfectly normal for them to want to go on holiday as a family unit.

But.. lets follow the logic here.. all children should be free to bring partners, or NONE of them should, I agree with that, but that isn't what has happened, none were invited, and if all children bring partners you have turned a family trip of 5 people which is easy to accommodate, to a large trip of 8 (+ kids if the siblings have children), which is harder to accommodate, costs an awful lot more and will certainly not be as harmonious when you put 4 couples together who don't know each other very well.

But you haven't considered any of that, because you seem to only think about yourself and your own selfish wants and needs as more important than literally everything else, including your fiance or your relationship.

You don't want your future husband to discuss his day to day life with his mum in case he says something you aren't happy with, but you are quite happy to slag him off on here behind his back to anyone who will listen.

The double standards are incredible.

double standard that she expects my fiancé to view her husband as family and respect him enough to vacation with him while not respecting her son’s relationship. This man didn’t raise my fiancé. He barely even lived in the same home as him so no he isn’t a “family unit” with my fiancé and of course he is going to view his fiancé as more his family than his mom’s husband. Why would he view someone else’s partner as more his family?

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MermaidMummy06 · 24/01/2025 02:26

I haven't read the whole thread... But... I'd be setting clear boundaries about what information he can't share with his mother. Nothing personal, like your health info, or how much money you make/have. It's pretty common to discuss the bank account setup, as long as MIL isn't trying to change it.

What I noticed most was you being responsible for the cleaning, meals & maintenance. Sort that out now & make it shared. Otherwise you're in for a lifetime of being the primary cleaner, cook, and mental load carrier.

sandyhappypeople · 24/01/2025 02:29

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 24/01/2025 02:21

I don’t think my fiancé considers the man he met when he was 18 close family. We are engaged why do you keep talking like we been dating 5 minutes? Or like his family is more important to him than me? You keep mentioning they are a family unit family unit but the mom and her husband could also split up just like me and my fiance can and then her husband is no longer family to my husband or his brothers bc he isn’t their dad.

We are engaged why do you keep talking like we been dating 5 minutes? Or like his family is more important to him than me?

no one is saying that.. literally no one, that is 100% your jealousy and insecurity talking.

you are the only one here that keeps saying his family should not be more important than you.. literally everyone on this post is saying it separate from you and not in direct competition.

You can have a family unit (mum dad (or step dad), siblings etc)
You can have a separate family unit (spouse, partner, children etc).

While your priority will always be with your partner and children, one is not "more important" than the other, him loving them and wanting to spend time with them, doesn't mean he doesn't love you or want to spend time with you.

You keep saying he shouldn't need that other family unit because he has you.. that is what is controlling.

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