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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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MaryWhitehouseExperienced · 23/01/2025 17:32

I bet he's incredibly proud of the way you have both organised things and was showing off a bit to his mum - I don't see anything wrong with that. In his shoes I might feel very pleased with myself too.

Have you considered that it is his very closeness with his mum that makes him so perfect for you? She has obviously raised him in such a way that makes it possible for him to communicate so well with his fiancé and manage a life with her - independently of his beloved DM. I don't know many men who talk to their mum every day. I think you've found a really good man.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:32

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:51

Huh? So his mom didn’t mention your housework so now she’s at fault? Even though till this thread you thought you were doing the right thing.

Do you see how you keep contradicting yourself. No she’s NOT unbiased. She’s his mom. My mother was NOT unbiased. She was my mom. I am not an unbiased mother. There shouldn’t really be such an unbiased mother.

How is your relationship with your own mom OP? As I asked earlier does she think highly of you?

No you missed my point. I was saying my point is proven in that she is clearly very biased bc a non biased party would point out the housework issue like many posters on here did so the fact she didn’t shows she is biased which isn’t right for my fiancé to go to a party who would only benefit him and he knows that

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2025willbemytime · 23/01/2025 17:32

Hes got it made hasn't he! He dies no cleaning, he gets food delivered five nights a week and I suspect you cook the other two, and you sort out all the tradesmen.

So much of your post was unnecessary. Other people love their partners too.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:34

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:53

I suspect if your MIL made a ‘huge effort’ with you, you would find it controlling and you would wonder why she was inviting you, and why she was gifting you X. And try and minutely analyse her every action. In the same way you are analysing her lack of comment/action.

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Why do you assume this? Nope I want her to include me.

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PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 17:35

Ellepff · 23/01/2025 17:27

Okay but how do you feel about toilet trees? I really like them. Add a lovely sense of occasion when I’m in there.

Haha I thought toilet trees was cute! I imagined this

He told his mom details on our financial set up!
ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:36

2025willbemytime · 23/01/2025 17:32

Hes got it made hasn't he! He dies no cleaning, he gets food delivered five nights a week and I suspect you cook the other two, and you sort out all the tradesmen.

So much of your post was unnecessary. Other people love their partners too.

Yes I’m aware other people love their partners? I never said they didn’t? I use home chef which is a delivery company where you pick the meals ahead of time and it comes with directions and all the ingredients to cook. It’s actually perfect for 2 household families like hours where we have opposite work schedules. I do day work and he works overnights.

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PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 17:36

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:34

Why do you assume this? Nope I want her to include me.

Maybe the solution is the three of you getting together to hash out your financial planning.

BIossomtoes · 23/01/2025 17:37

So obviously she doesn’t like me.

Can’t imagine why.

2025willbemytime · 23/01/2025 17:37

You just banged on about it so much as if you think you're special. It was all irrelevant to your issue.

All you needed to say was. My fiancé told his mum how we split our money and what our bank accounts are. Plus he talks to her too much for my liking.

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 17:38

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:36

Yes I’m aware other people love their partners? I never said they didn’t? I use home chef which is a delivery company where you pick the meals ahead of time and it comes with directions and all the ingredients to cook. It’s actually perfect for 2 household families like hours where we have opposite work schedules. I do day work and he works overnights.

I thought Home Chef is a US based service only, they don’t deliver in the UK?

sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 17:39

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:32

No you missed my point. I was saying my point is proven in that she is clearly very biased bc a non biased party would point out the housework issue like many posters on here did so the fact she didn’t shows she is biased which isn’t right for my fiancé to go to a party who would only benefit him and he knows that

but you said you think your housework split is fair.. so why are you getting upset that she hasn't said anything about it being unfair.. have you thought that she trusts if you have a problem with it being unfair you will speak up to your future husband about it and resolve it between yourselves?

If anything that just proves that she is unbiased, she hasn't said that she thinks it is fair or unfair, she is absolutely keeping out of it altogether.

Which just goes to prove that she isn't interfering, she talks to her son every day, it doesn't mean she is telling him or you how you should be living your lives.

RoastDinnerSmellsNice · 23/01/2025 17:40

Quite honestly OP, I think you should cancel this wedding. You don't trust your Fiance to do right by you. You don't like him talking to his DM as much as he does. You let yourself get so wound up by the fact he talked to his Mum about your joint finances, that you came onto MN to have a moan about it, but didn't even consider the fact that you'd never actually discussed how you feel about sharing certain parts of your relationship with others, even though you've been together for 5 years. This doesn't bode well for a marriage I'm afraid.

It also makes me wonder whether you've discussed other important aspects of life, such as how you BOTH feel about having children, child care, who takes time off work to care for your JOINT child if they are sick, etc. What if you were to find you couldn't have children, have you discussed this? It seems to me that you and your fiance don't communicate well, otherwise you'd have already told him that you're concerned about just how often he talks to his mother, and what he talks to her about.

MissHollyGolightly · 23/01/2025 17:41

Wow. Just wait until you find out what she's really told him about how she feels about you...If you're so sure she doesn't like you, you think she hasn't expressed that? Your name off the cards screams it already. That is clearly the issue here, not the finance chat.

ApriCat · 23/01/2025 17:42

I have literally just had a conversation with my son about exactly how his and his girlfriend's finances are set up (largely as he was trying to work out whether they could afford to repair their car).

Was this meant to be an emotional big deal for anyone involved? Oops.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:46

MeAndBoqDrivesmemad · 23/01/2025 16:04

I think it’s more concerning that you’re responsible for all the cleaning. Why is this?

It was actually my idea and it’s because I felt bad that my career choice didn’t make enough money.

Do you work similar hours?

I do day work as I’m a teacher and he works overnights

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Mymanyellow · 23/01/2025 17:50

I’m knackered reading all this. It’s not a competition he doesn’t have to choose between you. Of course he’s allowed a private conversation with his mum. She didn’t give him any advice. If she treats you as badly as you say surely that’s the issue not an imaginary conversation.
Toiletries and toilet trees btw

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 17:52

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:32

No you missed my point. I was saying my point is proven in that she is clearly very biased bc a non biased party would point out the housework issue like many posters on here did so the fact she didn’t shows she is biased which isn’t right for my fiancé to go to a party who would only benefit him and he knows that

Or maybe she's trying not to be interfering, like you said would be your preference? She didn't comment on the money or the housework, so that's pretty consistent to me.

DancingFerret · 23/01/2025 17:52

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:46

I do day work as I’m a teacher and he works overnights

From reading your posts, I doubt you'd last five minutes in a UK school.

Bleachbum · 23/01/2025 17:55

OP, why aren’t you responding to any of the PP’s asking what your fiancé has to say about his DM excluding you generally?

If I opened a Christmas card from my in-laws and it was just made out to my DH, both me and my DH would be really shocked and he would be having words, no doubt. If my in-laws actually said that I wasn’t welcome on a family holiday then I think my DH would hit the roof.

Why are you focusing on this finance chat and falling out with your fiancé over that when there are much bigger issues that need raising?

OliveWah · 23/01/2025 17:55

It just sounds like the two of you hadn't discussed how much was appropriate to disclose regarding your finances to others, and in the absence of any boundaries around this, your DH has shared information with his DM which you would have preferred to remain private.

If you had discussed boundaries beforehand, and he had wilfully ignored your wishes, then your response would have been totally reasonable and proportionate. However, in the absence of any such agreement, and with the knowledge that your DH regularly shares details of your lives in his daily conversations with his DM, this was always likely to happen and therefore YABU.

Going forward, you have now had the conversation you should have had beforehand (particularly considering this is such an important boundary for you), and if your DH is unable to respect this boundary in the future, any reaction from you would be totally warranted.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:55

HollyKnight · 23/01/2025 16:38

Once your child is headed towards marriage and especially once engaged/married your advice should be given in support of the benefit of the team the relationship. Not just in the interest of your child.

Um no. A mother should put their child first always. If the relationship is in the best interests of their child, then they will support it. But if their child is in an abusive controlling relationship, they will support their child to leave that relationship. Is that your real fear? Does your future MIL think you are bad for her son? It would explain why she has no interest in you as a person, and it would explain your wild paranoia.

Hardly in an abusive or controlling relationship when I’m contributing to everything BUT the mortgage and cleaning the whole house and cooking so your advice doesn’t apply to our situation. Of course an abusive relationship is a game changer but that’s not what we are talking about here. So again we are a couple a team if you want your kid to have a good partnership then you will look at what’s best for the team not give advice that would screw their partner over. Again it could look like hey, “she makes less but through no fault of her own as she is still working full time” or “to benefit you guys cut back on this” I am her FDIL also a member of her family and the mother of any potential GC if you want to have a good harmonious family relationship just blindly being biased towards your own child isn’t the best. That’s a very problematic mindset. You have to be at least a little bit objective. If something is wrong it’s wrong regardless of who is your child.

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justasking111 · 23/01/2025 17:55

Well you've said you're American. But we've never discussed our finances either.

You've written four pages of posts OP you're overthinking things. You've told him not to mention finances again, so he shouldn't.

All the DIY repairs well that's just normal conversation. We do discuss that with our sons.

It's a feeling of pride for men I think. My husband and sons do logging in the summer, saw, chop and stack to dry. What feed to use on the lawn, all that kind of stuff. I wouldn't worry about that.

He talks to his mum a lot more than you talk to yours which is an unusual reverse. Mothers and daughters tend to talk a lot more, I've observed.

Put it out of your mind.

Scout2016 · 23/01/2025 17:56

What does he say about his mum not putting your name on Christmas cards OP?
How will it look if you have kids? She'll send to him and them and not you? Or will you be welcomed once you have her grand child?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:58

Abracadabra12345 · 23/01/2025 16:41

It could be that this is giving you pause, OP and that's a very good thing. Maybe you aren't this fairy tale couple after all, and that's fine because no one is.

Mil problems can be a huge problem and you're not even married yet, let alone have kids. One things for sure - he won't stop talking every day to his mum. Maybe she senses your dislike which is why she hasn't welcomed you. Maybe she's protective of him.

He is nearly 30 mom try to let go of the protective apron strings.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:01

Itisjustmyopinion · 23/01/2025 16:43

You do realise that people remain as individuals when married and can maintain individual relationships, especially with their parents

His parents will always naturally prioritise his well-being as much as your parents will naturally look out for you first before your partner

So there will be times that someone will give him advice that doesn’t need to concern you and vice versa. It is not healthy to always be seen as one entity in a relationship, you are two individual people and will always be that way or at least should be. You talk about him being enmeshed with his parents, a couple insisting that they always come together or not at all are the ones that can be enmeshed imo

There is also a sense of being unbiased and looking at things objectives. If a parent doesn’t have that sunlit yes that is enmeshed. My parents also look out for my fiancé not to my detriment or anything but they support him. And they will tell me if I’m being an idiot with him about something.

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