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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 18:02

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:46

I do day work as I’m a teacher and he works overnights

And yet for a teacher you’ve been on this thread relentlessly.

justasking111 · 23/01/2025 18:03

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:58

He is nearly 30 mom try to let go of the protective apron strings.

Ouch.

IkeaMeatballGravy · 23/01/2025 18:04

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:01

There is also a sense of being unbiased and looking at things objectives. If a parent doesn’t have that sunlit yes that is enmeshed. My parents also look out for my fiancé not to my detriment or anything but they support him. And they will tell me if I’m being an idiot with him about something.

Wait till you have DCs OP, then you will realise that there is no such thing as unbiased when it comes to your DCs. If at any point your DH decides to leave you, his Mum will be on his side, as would your parents if you decided to leave.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:05

Whoarethoseguys · 23/01/2025 16:49

I care very much for my children's partners because they make my children happy.
But my relationship with my children is different because they are my children

Will you try to reach out to your children’s partners get to know them as individuals separate from the partner of your child especially after they are married? I think that’s the best way to a healthy harmonious and conducive family environment

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Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 18:07

IkeaMeatballGravy · 23/01/2025 18:04

Wait till you have DCs OP, then you will realise that there is no such thing as unbiased when it comes to your DCs. If at any point your DH decides to leave you, his Mum will be on his side, as would your parents if you decided to leave.

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Imaging thinking you are supposed to feel exactly the same for your adult child as their 5 year girlfriend.
OP is nuts about this. In the grand scheme of things 5 years is nothing and she’s acting like it’s a lifetime which is exactly what any immature 24 year old would think.
Its one thing to be welcoming and loving towards a FDIL but it’s actually weird to expect her to feel the same about OP and to expect her to never give her own son advice that would be in his best interest.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:07

IkeaMeatballGravy · 23/01/2025 18:04

Wait till you have DCs OP, then you will realise that there is no such thing as unbiased when it comes to your DCs. If at any point your DH decides to leave you, his Mum will be on his side, as would your parents if you decided to leave.

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That’s not true. One of my best friends is going through a divorce and her MIL of course still loves her son but has remained very close to my friend (her DIL) and she considers herself very close to her MIL.

That’s not healthy to not have the ability to be objective when it comes to your children. Trust me I see this play out everyday in the classroom. Little Johnny can do no wrong the not my child trope and of course as teachers are one of the hardest working professions yet for some reason one of the least respected it’s always the teachers fault for their precious angels behavior.

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justasking111 · 23/01/2025 18:07

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:05

Will you try to reach out to your children’s partners get to know them as individuals separate from the partner of your child especially after they are married? I think that’s the best way to a healthy harmonious and conducive family environment

How many psychology courses did you do during teachers training.

You've gone from, school to college and back to school. You seem very unworldly.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:09

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 18:07

Imaging thinking you are supposed to feel exactly the same for your adult child as their 5 year girlfriend.
OP is nuts about this. In the grand scheme of things 5 years is nothing and she’s acting like it’s a lifetime which is exactly what any immature 24 year old would think.
Its one thing to be welcoming and loving towards a FDIL but it’s actually weird to expect her to feel the same about OP and to expect her to never give her own son advice that would be in his best interest.

If she is close to her DIL and looks ahead to the future and realizes hey this might make the DIL upset which could result in family issues for years to come and the DIL not wanting her kids around her MIL then yes she will keep her mouth shut. When you say give advice do you mean advice to benefit the couple or just hey son do this even tho it may screw my DIL/your wife over? There is a difference. Also the husband and wife relationship is the most important and comes first.

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Itisjustmyopinion · 23/01/2025 18:09

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:58

I mean we are married why wouldn’t he need to keep conversations with his mother a secret

Because you don’t have to share everything with your partner

Its similar to your best friend confiding in you, you would be a bit of a dick if you went home and started saying “guess what Jane told me”

Or you are told something confidential at work. You wouldn’t, or shouldn’t, be discussing that at home

You are going to say in this instance it affected you too, fair enough (although she didn’t actually give any advice did she) but you also give the impression that he can never talk to his mum at the risk of something naturally coming up in conversation that you will disagree about. That’s where the controlling comments are coming from

I get it you are young and are just starting out in adulthood but you are going to have a difficult time ahead of you if you have this very black and white attitude to family relationships

BIossomtoes · 23/01/2025 18:10

That’s not healthy to not have the ability to be objective when it comes to your children.

Nobody is objective about their children. Absolutely nobody. As you may discover one day.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:10

justasking111 · 23/01/2025 18:07

How many psychology courses did you do during teachers training.

You've gone from, school to college and back to school. You seem very unworldly.

This has nothing to do with me being a teacher.

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Praying4Peace · 23/01/2025 18:11

I can understand why you might feel abit exposed by him sharing this info OP but I also think that you are over thinking it.
Best to let it go
I don't see a problem with him talking to his mum daily either although I agree it is probably more than most

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:11

BIossomtoes · 23/01/2025 18:10

That’s not healthy to not have the ability to be objective when it comes to your children.

Nobody is objective about their children. Absolutely nobody. As you may discover one day.

Fair enough. But knowing that you should mindful of that when giving advice

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HollyKnight · 23/01/2025 18:11

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:55

Hardly in an abusive or controlling relationship when I’m contributing to everything BUT the mortgage and cleaning the whole house and cooking so your advice doesn’t apply to our situation. Of course an abusive relationship is a game changer but that’s not what we are talking about here. So again we are a couple a team if you want your kid to have a good partnership then you will look at what’s best for the team not give advice that would screw their partner over. Again it could look like hey, “she makes less but through no fault of her own as she is still working full time” or “to benefit you guys cut back on this” I am her FDIL also a member of her family and the mother of any potential GC if you want to have a good harmonious family relationship just blindly being biased towards your own child isn’t the best. That’s a very problematic mindset. You have to be at least a little bit objective. If something is wrong it’s wrong regardless of who is your child.

I didn't give any advice.

But I would say you do sound controlling. You have a very rigid idea of how relationships should be and you have no interest in considering an alternative. You are literally trying to control his conversations with his mother and don't see anything wrong with that.

You are obsessed about cleaning the house. No one asked you to do that. You decided to do that because you feel guilty that you don't earn as much. You need to sort out your own insecurities instead of transferring them onto others. You have zero reason to think anyone is judging your career choice let alone whispering in your fiance's ear about it. This paranoia is coming from your feeling of inadequacy.

If this is how you are now as a 25-year-old adult, I can only imagine how immature you were as a 19-year-old. No mother wants this for their child.

justasking111 · 23/01/2025 18:11

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:09

If she is close to her DIL and looks ahead to the future and realizes hey this might make the DIL upset which could result in family issues for years to come and the DIL not wanting her kids around her MIL then yes she will keep her mouth shut. When you say give advice do you mean advice to benefit the couple or just hey son do this even tho it may screw my DIL/your wife over? There is a difference. Also the husband and wife relationship is the most important and comes first.

Is that a threat you've issued to them?

Bansheed · 23/01/2025 18:12

My American best friend is very open with me about her finances ( we were both suddenly single in our 40s). Her mum also knows all her finances as she helps them out ( my friend's DH died) i don't think this is necessarily a culture thing

Rachie1973 · 23/01/2025 18:14

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:58

This is our financial set up. Breaking down as a nearly married man every detail of our financial set up is not healthy. Why does he feel his mother is owed that information? That’s my money too if I don’t want that shared why should it? Some things are private between a couple and that’s a healthy relationship and separation from parents is to form your family and keep certain things private.

Crying because he won’t do as you want isn’t any healthier either.

justasking111 · 23/01/2025 18:14

Bansheed · 23/01/2025 18:12

My American best friend is very open with me about her finances ( we were both suddenly single in our 40s). Her mum also knows all her finances as she helps them out ( my friend's DH died) i don't think this is necessarily a culture thing

Nor me. It's more a control thing. If my husband had ever done this I'd have been talking to my family when he wasn't around.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:17

Itisjustmyopinion · 23/01/2025 18:09

Because you don’t have to share everything with your partner

Its similar to your best friend confiding in you, you would be a bit of a dick if you went home and started saying “guess what Jane told me”

Or you are told something confidential at work. You wouldn’t, or shouldn’t, be discussing that at home

You are going to say in this instance it affected you too, fair enough (although she didn’t actually give any advice did she) but you also give the impression that he can never talk to his mum at the risk of something naturally coming up in conversation that you will disagree about. That’s where the controlling comments are coming from

I get it you are young and are just starting out in adulthood but you are going to have a difficult time ahead of you if you have this very black and white attitude to family relationships

my issue is that posters were advocating for my fiancé listening to his mother’s advice about OUR finances and then keeping said advice secret from me which fosters a sense of secrecy which is unhealthy when you are about to be married. If the advice isn’t hurting me then why not share it when it affects both of us? im not even sure how that will work his mother tells him to cut back on this financially well we share finances what is he supposed to do just secretly cut back on his coffee runs and keep it from me bc he owes his mother more loyalty over me?

Your comparison of his bff sharing something in confidant with him is total apples and oranges bc if his buddy Jack wants to share that he thinks he might have an STD with my fiancé what fuck all does that have to do with me and our relationship? I don’t want nor need to know that shit.

however OUR finances has shit all do with his mother but all to do with our relationship so yes of course I shouldn’t be kept in the dark about any financial changes made due to his mother’s advice if she fave advice.

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Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 18:17

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:11

Fair enough. But knowing that you should mindful of that when giving advice

Why would you have to? There will be times a MIL will need to put their child first, not the spouse. Ultimately their allegiance will always be to their child. Thats life. It’s crazy that you don’t understand that.
You’ve been in your partners life for 5 years she has known him for 30. She’s not going to put you in an equal place in her life, obviously! The bond with a SIL or DIL will never be the same as the bond you have with your own child.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:20

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 17:13

Just bc he earns more doesn't mean you need to do more at home. (All cooking and cleaning.) After all, you're a team. And teachers work long hours.

Please explain that on here bc I’ve been accused of exploiting my fiancé despite that he himself agreed to this financial set up. And could walk away or not agree if he wasn’t happy with it. 🤷‍♀️

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Bleachbum · 23/01/2025 18:21

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:17

my issue is that posters were advocating for my fiancé listening to his mother’s advice about OUR finances and then keeping said advice secret from me which fosters a sense of secrecy which is unhealthy when you are about to be married. If the advice isn’t hurting me then why not share it when it affects both of us? im not even sure how that will work his mother tells him to cut back on this financially well we share finances what is he supposed to do just secretly cut back on his coffee runs and keep it from me bc he owes his mother more loyalty over me?

Your comparison of his bff sharing something in confidant with him is total apples and oranges bc if his buddy Jack wants to share that he thinks he might have an STD with my fiancé what fuck all does that have to do with me and our relationship? I don’t want nor need to know that shit.

however OUR finances has shit all do with his mother but all to do with our relationship so yes of course I shouldn’t be kept in the dark about any financial changes made due to his mother’s advice if she fave advice.

But she hasn’t given any advice, there is no secrecy, and nothing in your finances have changed! Why are you getting so worked up about this??

And before you say that you don’t know whether he is telling the truth about the lack of advice, it doesn’t matter because ultimately, your financial set-up hasn’t changed. So if he did receive “secret” advice that impacted you negatively, he didn’t act on it and stood by you.

TheGamesThatPlayUs · 23/01/2025 18:21

You do sound like hard work, OP.
And in this whole thread it comes across to me as though you protest too much. It seems to me like you are trying to defend that you don't pay anything towards the mortgage. With the excuse of you've been together sooooo long.
Honestly, to each their own in their relationship and how they work things,
but I don't think you are going to get a lot of sympathy on here with your demands of your (very generous) partner, and the way you have been replying to posters quite aggressively (for opinions you asked for).

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:21

Dietingfool · 23/01/2025 17:26

Oh op. I’m embarassed for you.

Why?

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Arewethebadguys · 23/01/2025 18:21

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