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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:52

Hwi · 23/01/2025 16:45

You are just pissed off he earns more than you do and the way you finances are run you benefit more, that is all. Obviously you don't want his mum to know about it, understandable.

I find it hard to believe at all times it’s exactly 50 50 with who earns what in a relationship. Yes he brings in more money but that’s just bc his career choice happens to
make more than my underpaid career. No fault of my own that teachers are underpaid. And I contribute in other ways to make up for it. Because we all know there are other ways besides financial to contribute to a relationship. I take care of all the home repairs finding the people getting the item manning the job and cleaning the whole house and doing the cooking so yes he may make more. But I’m not exactly sitting on my ass either. It all no pun intended comes out in the wash anyways. Let’s not act like he doesn’t also have it good by me cooking every night taking care of all home repairs and projects cleaning the whole house. I think you’re not looking at the big picture just zeroing in on one way to contribute which is financially.

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Ellepff · 23/01/2025 16:53

I’m really not understanding your issue or why you are reacting to posts. Or why I’m contributing so it won’t help 😂.

Your boundary about finances is reasonable, but it sounds like you set it after that call. So you can be upset but it isn’t objectively weird he shared with his mom. His close relationship with her also isn’t weird. And he might not share any advice he gets because he doesn’t plan to change it.

She’s a rude bitch for ignoring you at Christmas.

Different families have different ideas of closeness and the role of extended family. You know you and fiance have a disconnect here. Talk it out. It would be WILD to forbid him from calling his mom a certain amount of time, but it’s normal to ask that it doesn't interfere with your lives. I think on reddit you’ll get the individualism focused response you want.

FWIW we’re close to both of our parents and they each know a lot. Different per parent. My MIL thinks I’m a gold digger and she can enjoy that thought. My parents think my partner overspends and they can enjoy that thought. We make our decisions, not them. Some of my friends see their parents twice a year and would never discuss anything personal. That is ok too.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:54

Maurepas · 23/01/2025 15:53

OP looking at it practically re. daily conversations - they probably just ran out of other topics so it just happen they talked about your financial set up - even more so as you've been together for a few years! i.e they had nothing else to discuss!

it’s almost as if when you run out of things to talk about you can hang up the phone.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:55

IhaveanewTVnow · 23/01/2025 15:55

Well she might have commented on the housework issue but why would he tell you that. It’s for you two to sort out.

I’ve discussed finances with my step daughter and told her to always have an escape fund. We talked about what she paid for etc. and I offered my opinion. But I didn’t see fit to include her partner as this was a discussion between the two of us. If she chooses to tell him I hope he doesnt react like you have. I doubt he will as he is secure and confident on the set up.

He would tell me that bc he would be up front with me as his partner.

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Sofasogreat · 23/01/2025 16:55

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:39

Because I felt bad about being in a career that is underpaid and I don’t make nearly as much as him that I figured this was another way I could contribute on top of the other ways I financially contribute. I don’t mind at all. I realize I overreacted about him telling his mother about our finances as he told me his mother didn’t try to influence his decision. Which is the important thing to me. I’m just hurt at him because he didn’t discuss telling his mother this with me ahead of time or involve me in a conversation as his future wife about something that is also mine

This really sticks out to me, OP: "Because I felt bad about being in a career that is underpaid and I don’t make nearly as much as him that I figured this was another way I could contribute on top of the other ways I financially contribute"

Again: you should be bearing this load equally. If you work in an underpaid career, that means he is already getting more reward for working the same hours as you. On top of that, he's then doing less around the house. And if you have children or caring responsibilities for parents later, it will be embedded that you do everything in the house, PLUS those caring responsibilities, and you will both feel like you've let both of you down when that's no longer sustainable.

Please, please listen to all the voices on here saying that's the real issue here, however you and your MIL feel about each other. It's the practical matters that will really count at crunch time.

Ihopeithinkiknow · 23/01/2025 16:56

It's gonna get to the stage where her husband isn't allowed to phone his mum without her being there just in case a topic pops up randomly that the OP thinks she should be involved in because it already sounds like he gets questioned about what was said.
I can also see a lot of "but look what I have done for you" and "you should love me more than your mother and be my best friend now"
It's not a competition OP, he is allowed to be close to his mum and it doesn't mean he doesn't love you or won't put you first.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:58

Ellepff · 23/01/2025 16:53

I’m really not understanding your issue or why you are reacting to posts. Or why I’m contributing so it won’t help 😂.

Your boundary about finances is reasonable, but it sounds like you set it after that call. So you can be upset but it isn’t objectively weird he shared with his mom. His close relationship with her also isn’t weird. And he might not share any advice he gets because he doesn’t plan to change it.

She’s a rude bitch for ignoring you at Christmas.

Different families have different ideas of closeness and the role of extended family. You know you and fiance have a disconnect here. Talk it out. It would be WILD to forbid him from calling his mom a certain amount of time, but it’s normal to ask that it doesn't interfere with your lives. I think on reddit you’ll get the individualism focused response you want.

FWIW we’re close to both of our parents and they each know a lot. Different per parent. My MIL thinks I’m a gold digger and she can enjoy that thought. My parents think my partner overspends and they can enjoy that thought. We make our decisions, not them. Some of my friends see their parents twice a year and would never discuss anything personal. That is ok too.

What do you mean by on Reddit I’ll get the individual response that I want? I will say on DWIL forums they were quick to tell me my fiancé is enmeshed with his mother and he needs to put me first and that before marriage the enmeshment needs to be nipped in the bud as our family we create comes first. Where on this forum everyone is practically patting my fiancé on the head and handing him the umbilical cord to his mother. It’s just interesting how everyone can have such opposite POVS

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:58

Ihopeithinkiknow · 23/01/2025 16:56

It's gonna get to the stage where her husband isn't allowed to phone his mum without her being there just in case a topic pops up randomly that the OP thinks she should be involved in because it already sounds like he gets questioned about what was said.
I can also see a lot of "but look what I have done for you" and "you should love me more than your mother and be my best friend now"
It's not a competition OP, he is allowed to be close to his mum and it doesn't mean he doesn't love you or won't put you first.

I mean we are married why wouldn’t he need to keep conversations with his mother a secret

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sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 17:00

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:55

He would tell me that bc he would be up front with me as his partner.

So he would tell you what she's said because he is upfront with you as a partner..

But you're worried that he won't tell you what she has said and think they are plotting behind your back.

Please make it make sense.

MsCactus · 23/01/2025 17:01

I talk to my mum everyday - she's my best friend, of course she knows my financial set up. My DH doesn't mind one bit - there's not only room for one relationship in your life!

YABU

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 17:02

Montymorency · 23/01/2025 15:07

home delivery meals 5 times a week?! does his mother know?

This is still my favourite post on the thread. 😬

Did you get lots of likes @Montymorency

Boomer55 · 23/01/2025 17:05

All a bit drama llama. You object to him sharing details with his mum, and then spray the details all over here. 🤷‍♀️

Just have a discussion with him. 🙄

ErinAoife · 23/01/2025 17:09

I don't see a problem with it as long as his mother is not interfering. It is nice that he has such a close relationship with his mom

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:09

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 23/01/2025 16:51

Blimey, this sounds like a nightmare. The run up to the wedding can be stressful but this much drama would have me running for the hills.
The ‘mom’ didn’t give off any energy that she disliked the OP, but clearly the OP has many issues with her. And laid out here, I get why.
But there is a man here who needs to step up and decide how he wants to live is his life, what his priorities are and what he wants from a marriage.
Posters here yesterday told ‘mom’ that her son was being very well provided for.
But it seems the issues run deeper.
I wouldn’t want to marry anyone whose mother didn’t put my name on a card. Game over.

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Yes actions speak louder than words and she has ignored my existence in the relationship leaving me out of Xmas cards despite the fact we have been together a whole, live together, and are engaged, ignores my birthday, never asks my fiancé how I am, never reaches to me. So obviously she doesn’t like me.

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coldcallerbaiter · 23/01/2025 17:10

We are open about finances in our household. We are on each other’s side, in it together. It is his mother. I don’t see a problem.

You mentioned her behaviour towards you. She doesn’t seem keen on you. Just be the same back to her.

sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 17:11

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:09

Yes actions speak louder than words and she has ignored my existence in the relationship leaving me out of Xmas cards despite the fact we have been together a whole, live together, and are engaged, ignores my birthday, never asks my fiancé how I am, never reaches to me. So obviously she doesn’t like me.

and what does your fiance say about that?

MeAndBoqDrivesmemad · 23/01/2025 17:11

I wouldn’t like my financial information shared either. However, You don’t seem to trust him and it sounds like you think he will be easily influenced by his mother. If that’s the case you should not marry him.

Your offer to be a skivvy and a maid because you don’t earn as much was a really bad decision.

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 17:13

Just bc he earns more doesn't mean you need to do more at home. (All cooking and cleaning.) After all, you're a team. And teachers work long hours.

IkeaMeatballGravy · 23/01/2025 17:15

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:44

Also his mom doesn’t treat us equal at all! Despite that I’ve been with him since we were very young and shown a lot of support to her son through his move and everything. Never reaches out to me only talks to her son. I read on here about MILs or soon to be MILs starting to include both in texts or reaching out to the DIL. My birthday rolls around no acknowledgment. She will travel and get just my fiancé something. Christmas even though we live together and are engaged to be married doesn’t acknowledge us as a couple just addresses cards to my fiance individually. When she visits never tries to foster any sort of independent relationship with me. Yes I’ve reached out to her always gotten her a nice Xmas gift and birthday gift

She's probably terrified of you and I can understand why! It sounds like you are 'one of those' DIL looking for any old excuse to cut contact.

Does your mother text your husband or treat him equally? Why would you expect her to treat you as equal to her own child?

You definitely do not sound mature enough to marry. Wait a little bit longer and calm down a bit.

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 23/01/2025 17:18

It’s clear from what you have shared about her behaviour that your future MIL doesn’t like you. If I’m completely honest, from the way you have put yourself forward on this thread I can see why because you come across as incredibly controlling, but of course it’s just one lens on someone’s life.

I think it’s a spiral. She doesn’t like you - so you resent her relationship with her son - which makes her not like you … and so on.

IkeaMeatballGravy · 23/01/2025 17:18

I also talk to my mother most days, does that make me 'enmeshed'? I have also been married to my DH for over a decade and I have on occasion had a vent to my DM about him, as I am sure he has about me. People are allowed a support network outside of the marriage, so long as the parents are not interfering.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:24

Newname85 · 23/01/2025 15:54

Oh wow! You are clearly benefiting more from this relationship financially than he does. He earns double your salary, contributes double, so things are “fair” to you. You expect him to treat his own mother like a stranger while you control how much money he gets to spend from his OWN income.

I hope he ditches you and finds someone that respects his relationship with his mother.

if you really want to stop exploiting him, consider paying your equal share. If you don’t have enough left, get a better job?

He should not need your permission to disclose HIS finances to his own mother!?

Exploiting him??? Haha hardly!!! Thanks for the laugh though. If you read my whole post. We were together longggg before EITHER of us were established in our careers. I lived with my parents and he was renting in a crappy run down one bedroom apartment from his own neighbor. I was also busting my butt in college full time working retail. It wasn’t like I was unemployed and he had a nice home and I suddenly started dating him. You created this whole false narrative in your mind. Financial support is not the only thing you bring to the table in a relationship. I stayed with him and supported him (as much as his family did) when he established himself in a career, when he decided to move 13 hours away, I got everything together I needed to including a full time job, moved to be with him and together we got a house. Yes he pays the mortgage but I clean the whole house, handle everything as far as home renovations go and home repairs, pay all the utilities, groceries, I cook the meals, all the toilet tree items. We are totally fine with this set up and yes what he talked to his mother about is our joint finances and I asked him to keep that with us and he agreed he would. We are in an engaged relationship about to be married your set up sounds more like a business partnership or a roommate relationship. If anything and I don’t subscribe to this view but if we were to make an argument for anyone being exploited it would be me. Because I’m doing all the unpaid household labor that he would have to put time into cooking cleaning home rapids and renovations himself if it wasn’t for me. So sure we can go down that rabbit hole but your argument doesn’t work like you think it does. I don’t agree with that view I’m just saying an argument can be made for that. I find it really odd that you view your relationship as a bean counting situation. Regardless of income we are both working full time it’s not my fault my chosen career happens to be underpaid. He agreed to this arrangement therefore not exploited at all. If he didn’t like it he didn’t have to agree to it.

also where do you get that I control what he spends?? We together came up with a financial arrangement that works for us and we decided based on our incomes what we each can afford to contribute. Then we get that money leftover for “fun money” and the agreed upon amount goes into another joint savings account which we don’t touch except for emergencies. This is about as fair as it comes and level headed. I see nothing about where I tell him what to spend. You must have missed the operative word which is we AGREED TOGETHER. The only other option that we can go with is keep everything 100% separate living like roommates where as he gets to accrue more in savings and I can’t afford to build up any sort of savings. Doesn’t sound much like a caring partnership to me. You state I like I don’t have a respectable career or like I’m sitting on my ass all day while my husband works full time waits on me hand and foot and cleans and handles the whole house. While I’m taking lavish vacations with his money.

also not telling your mom every detail of your relationship isn’t treating her like a stranger it’s having boundaries. There is a middle ground.

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 23/01/2025 17:25

Future DIL from Hell….

Dietingfool · 23/01/2025 17:26

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 17:24

Exploiting him??? Haha hardly!!! Thanks for the laugh though. If you read my whole post. We were together longggg before EITHER of us were established in our careers. I lived with my parents and he was renting in a crappy run down one bedroom apartment from his own neighbor. I was also busting my butt in college full time working retail. It wasn’t like I was unemployed and he had a nice home and I suddenly started dating him. You created this whole false narrative in your mind. Financial support is not the only thing you bring to the table in a relationship. I stayed with him and supported him (as much as his family did) when he established himself in a career, when he decided to move 13 hours away, I got everything together I needed to including a full time job, moved to be with him and together we got a house. Yes he pays the mortgage but I clean the whole house, handle everything as far as home renovations go and home repairs, pay all the utilities, groceries, I cook the meals, all the toilet tree items. We are totally fine with this set up and yes what he talked to his mother about is our joint finances and I asked him to keep that with us and he agreed he would. We are in an engaged relationship about to be married your set up sounds more like a business partnership or a roommate relationship. If anything and I don’t subscribe to this view but if we were to make an argument for anyone being exploited it would be me. Because I’m doing all the unpaid household labor that he would have to put time into cooking cleaning home rapids and renovations himself if it wasn’t for me. So sure we can go down that rabbit hole but your argument doesn’t work like you think it does. I don’t agree with that view I’m just saying an argument can be made for that. I find it really odd that you view your relationship as a bean counting situation. Regardless of income we are both working full time it’s not my fault my chosen career happens to be underpaid. He agreed to this arrangement therefore not exploited at all. If he didn’t like it he didn’t have to agree to it.

also where do you get that I control what he spends?? We together came up with a financial arrangement that works for us and we decided based on our incomes what we each can afford to contribute. Then we get that money leftover for “fun money” and the agreed upon amount goes into another joint savings account which we don’t touch except for emergencies. This is about as fair as it comes and level headed. I see nothing about where I tell him what to spend. You must have missed the operative word which is we AGREED TOGETHER. The only other option that we can go with is keep everything 100% separate living like roommates where as he gets to accrue more in savings and I can’t afford to build up any sort of savings. Doesn’t sound much like a caring partnership to me. You state I like I don’t have a respectable career or like I’m sitting on my ass all day while my husband works full time waits on me hand and foot and cleans and handles the whole house. While I’m taking lavish vacations with his money.

also not telling your mom every detail of your relationship isn’t treating her like a stranger it’s having boundaries. There is a middle ground.

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Oh op. I’m embarassed for you.

Ellepff · 23/01/2025 17:27

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 17:02

This is still my favourite post on the thread. 😬

Did you get lots of likes @Montymorency

Okay but how do you feel about toilet trees? I really like them. Add a lovely sense of occasion when I’m in there.

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