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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 15:40

I was harsh but I do agree it's valid to want to keep your finances private. Not everyone does and that's valid too. I think part of it is how the person being told the info will receive it-are they a non judgemental and fair person or will they judge you negatively or be interfering after. Since your mil hasn't been welcoming to you I can understand why you want this kept private from her, as compared to someone you have a better relationship with.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:41

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:37

Yes I didn’t tell DH what financial advice my mom gave me! Why should I??? That’s between my mother and me. And god forbid if DH had turned out to be abusive that independent relationship where DH doesn’t get to find out everything would have been critical.

Bc I’ve been with him since we were 19 and he clearly loves me and trusts me and I have proven that I’m committed to him by following him when he moved and building a life together with him. There is a problem if he doesn’t trust me after that amount of time. If a man of nearly 30 needs mommy to tell him what to do in a relationship that’s a problem

also no this isn’t between him and his mother. It’s not his mother’s business. It’s between me and him. It’s not her money. Some of it is my money that I’m putting into the joint account

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IhaveanewTVnow · 23/01/2025 15:41

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:09

I have and he agreed not to discuss it.

So what is your problem?

the relationship between son and mother sounds lovely.

are you jealous?

Bigcat25 · 23/01/2025 15:42

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:25

Nope mothers and particularly mother of sons are biased no matter what.

That is a very biased statement in itself. There are plenty of objective and fair people out there and this is a gross generalization.

Msmoonpie · 23/01/2025 15:42

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:36

Talking everyday and divulging all of their personal finances and life information on a silver platter isn’t enmeshed? Then what is? And I don’t want my man to be best friends with his mother. Yes I know it’s crazy that I want my soon to be husband to put me before his mother and be my best friend.

Except he didn’t give out all financial information - you said it yourself he didn’t say any amounts of what was in the accounts ?

IhaveanewTVnow · 23/01/2025 15:43

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:41

Bc I’ve been with him since we were 19 and he clearly loves me and trusts me and I have proven that I’m committed to him by following him when he moved and building a life together with him. There is a problem if he doesn’t trust me after that amount of time. If a man of nearly 30 needs mommy to tell him what to do in a relationship that’s a problem

also no this isn’t between him and his mother. It’s not his mother’s business. It’s between me and him. It’s not her money. Some of it is my money that I’m putting into the joint account

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Mommy ……

leave him alone op. Just trying to change a families dynamics. He loves you. But he has known his mum longer 🤣 sorry. You can’t just expect men to not talk to their mums. It shows they can relate to women.

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 15:43

Your obsession with influence and bias is crazy.

Phthia · 23/01/2025 15:43

It’s the laying out our exact financial set up to a T that bothers me. No reason that is any of her business or she needs to know that. Some information need to be left between the couple. Finances and in-laws/family don’t mix unless of course one is providing financial help which isn’t the case for us. I guess to me finances are a private thing.

What I don't understand is why you are so desperate to keep secret an arrangement which is absolutely bog standard and very similar to the one that millions of other couples use. How does it harm you for your mother, mother in law or anyone else to know that you have a perfectly sensible, normal financial set-up? I could understand it if there was some massive imbalance one way or the other, but that isn't the case.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:44

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:26

Also no my mother for a while didn’t ’make an effort’ because he was a stranger to her. She lived on the other side of the world and he was a grainy person on Skype. She was perfectly polite but it would have been weird for her to buy birthday presents for him! When she met him she was perfectly nice to him (although she muttered to me that he was too thin and it was all his vegetarianism that was to blame, and that I should sneak some meat into his food- obviously I ignored that).

Because of the distance and expense of travelling what my mum knew about DH as my boyfriend was mediated through what I told her. So unless your boyfriend is actively bitching about you I don’t see the problem!

I’m not a stranger though. We used to see her almost every weekend for 4 years straight before we moved away. And when we face time we face time together. Hardly a stranger. We been together 5 years hardly a new relationship

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MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:44

So. I have been with DH since he was 21 (and he was the same age). We have shown our commitment to each other in lots of ways before we were thirty. What does that have to do with talking to my mother about my financial set up?

I trust DH but I still wanted her independent opinion. And if DH had a problem with that or with my speaking to her daily about our life I would have a problem with HIM.

And we have been together for 23 years and as we live with his mom now and I speak to my dad daily.

Bleachbum · 23/01/2025 15:44

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:06

If he cares about me and loves me why would he want to do something that upsets me. Yes since we are a couple and that’s my money as well I certainly do have a right to say hey this is something that’s between us as a couple I would appreciate it staying between us as our finances.

If he cares about me and loves me why would he want to do something that upsets me.

This is a very unrealistic way to think about things going into a marriage. Yes, he loves you but sometimes he will upset you, and you him, and that’s normal. It’s not a reflection of his love for you. You hopefully have a long, happy marriage ahead of you. Don’t fall into the trap of saying “but if you loved me you wouldn’t do x, y or z”, that’s a manipulative road to disaster.

I agree with PPs. The way you run your finances isn’t so unusual that it warrants a level of secrecy. It’s pretty standard for most couples. In my marriage, 1 of us pays the mortgage and utilities and the other one paying schools fees and everything else, simply because even after 25 years, we’ve still never bothered sorting a joint account out. I don’t care who knows this. It’s irrelevant and I don’t see it as particularly private information.

To sum it up, I think you have massively overreacted.

Naunet · 23/01/2025 15:46

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:39

Because I felt bad about being in a career that is underpaid and I don’t make nearly as much as him that I figured this was another way I could contribute on top of the other ways I financially contribute. I don’t mind at all. I realize I overreacted about him telling his mother about our finances as he told me his mother didn’t try to influence his decision. Which is the important thing to me. I’m just hurt at him because he didn’t discuss telling his mother this with me ahead of time or involve me in a conversation as his future wife about something that is also mine

It doesnt matter if yo u don't mind, its about not letting him start to see you as a skivvy. When someone takes on a role like this, it's almost human behaviour for a good percentage of people to take it for granted, it becomes an unappreciated job, something they feel entitled in not doing themselves and if you get ill, or a better paid role or have children, he will potentially get passed off that you aren't fulfilling your assigned duties. Don't do ALL the cleaning, do the majority if you find it fair, but don't do all of it.

sandyhappypeople · 23/01/2025 15:46

Because I felt bad about being in a career that is underpaid and I don’t make nearly as much as him that I figured this was another way I could contribute on top of the other ways I financially contribute.

You feel insecure, and are overcompensating, and you don't have an equal relationship.. but that is nothing to do with his mum and everything to do with you and how you see yourself in the relationship.

You are completely over-reacting to the situation with his mum, but that is probably because you already feel insecure about your position within the relationship.. and feel he values her more than you.

You need to work on your self esteem as none of this is going to end well.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:47

Phthia · 23/01/2025 15:43

It’s the laying out our exact financial set up to a T that bothers me. No reason that is any of her business or she needs to know that. Some information need to be left between the couple. Finances and in-laws/family don’t mix unless of course one is providing financial help which isn’t the case for us. I guess to me finances are a private thing.

What I don't understand is why you are so desperate to keep secret an arrangement which is absolutely bog standard and very similar to the one that millions of other couples use. How does it harm you for your mother, mother in law or anyone else to know that you have a perfectly sensible, normal financial set-up? I could understand it if there was some massive imbalance one way or the other, but that isn't the case.

Well no actually on here a lot of people are bean counting and saying bc he is making more it’s not a fair financial set up. Although yes I do admit I overreacted since according to my fiancé his mother didn’t try to sway or influence him one way or the other. I realize since he didn’t give her dollar amounts (as he shouldn’t) it’s not a major issue like I made it out to be. I still asked him to discuss it all together in the future with me involved since it doesn’t affect just him but me as well with a non biased party so not a parent more like a financial advisor if he has issues or questions. Or we could discuss it with his mom all together. Bc if he really and truly has my best interests at heart then this wouldn’t need to be a conversation away from me

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Peaceandquietandacuppa · 23/01/2025 15:47

I voted YANBU.

I don’t think anyone can really understand until they are with someone who is enmeshed with their parents.

I am married to someone who speaks to their parents multiple times a day. They know every little detail on our lives because well, what else is there to talk about?! If a phone call isn’t made at a certain time each day there are questions. They know every little detail on my parents, our home, our children. I find it weird but my partner finds it nice.

I agree with PPs, there is a fundamental difference here between you that needs discussion. Maybe couples counselling would help you sort it out? Don’t leave it 10 more years and massively get annoyed by it wvery time, like I do… it does cause a lot of arguments eventually.

EDIT to add. It’s tricky to explain because I am close to my mum and do talk to her - and I want my partner to be close to his parents! And I’d hate for my children to ever be told not to contact me. The difference is that I would try not to be too enmeshed with them, putting in a little bit of boundary, and not expecting them to call me every day for example.

RebelliousStarrChild · 23/01/2025 15:48

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:18

So you wouldn’t care about your DIL/SIL (because your son could be gay that’s why I add SIL as well) and their feelings? WOW you would be a nightmare MIL

Do you care about his feelings?

Just because you feel something doesn't mean the other person is in the wrong. Maybe sit with your own feelings for a while before reacting and jumping to conclusions.

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:48

Are you very young OP? I ask this kindly. As someone who has been married 23 years it is important to foster our own relationships with our parents. And when you have children to see both sets of grandparents as equal. (Unless they are abusive and there is literally no evidence of this).

Also DH’s mom relied a lot on him to sort out finances when his dad died last year. And I had to help as well. Imagine if she had said, I won’t have DIL knowing about my finances. In fact after FIL died I nudged DH a bit and said your mother will not say it but she is vulnerable and lonely even though she’s living with us. Can you please make some extra time for her? He was a bit: oh she’s FINE. And I insisted and I do think it helped.

You seem desperately insecure and you need him to prove your place in the hierarchy of his affections. Why is that?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:49

Naunet · 23/01/2025 15:46

It doesnt matter if yo u don't mind, its about not letting him start to see you as a skivvy. When someone takes on a role like this, it's almost human behaviour for a good percentage of people to take it for granted, it becomes an unappreciated job, something they feel entitled in not doing themselves and if you get ill, or a better paid role or have children, he will potentially get passed off that you aren't fulfilling your assigned duties. Don't do ALL the cleaning, do the majority if you find it fair, but don't do all of it.

Which since his mother didn’t have boo to say about me doing all the housework (interesting enough!) proves my point that she is very clearly biased bc an objective party would have pointed that out.

I disagree bc my fiance has never shown anything other than love and support for me and he isn’t the type of man to take the woman he loves so much for granted.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:51

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:48

Are you very young OP? I ask this kindly. As someone who has been married 23 years it is important to foster our own relationships with our parents. And when you have children to see both sets of grandparents as equal. (Unless they are abusive and there is literally no evidence of this).

Also DH’s mom relied a lot on him to sort out finances when his dad died last year. And I had to help as well. Imagine if she had said, I won’t have DIL knowing about my finances. In fact after FIL died I nudged DH a bit and said your mother will not say it but she is vulnerable and lonely even though she’s living with us. Can you please make some extra time for her? He was a bit: oh she’s FINE. And I insisted and I do think it helped.

You seem desperately insecure and you need him to prove your place in the hierarchy of his affections. Why is that?

Yes but your MIL made an effort with you and included you as part of the family. My FMIL never ever personally reaches out to me only ever talks to her son. All the in-laws I know while naturally they talk to their own child more they at least acknowledge their in law as part of the family and include them.

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Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 15:51

Bc if he really and truly has my best interests at heart then this wouldn’t need to be a conversation away from me

This is incredibly controlling. He’s allowed to have conversations without you.

You sound like the type to think he shouldn’t socialise without you present at all times either.

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:51

Huh? So his mom didn’t mention your housework so now she’s at fault? Even though till this thread you thought you were doing the right thing.

Do you see how you keep contradicting yourself. No she’s NOT unbiased. She’s his mom. My mother was NOT unbiased. She was my mom. I am not an unbiased mother. There shouldn’t really be such an unbiased mother.

How is your relationship with your own mom OP? As I asked earlier does she think highly of you?

Maurepas · 23/01/2025 15:53

OP looking at it practically re. daily conversations - they probably just ran out of other topics so it just happen they talked about your financial set up - even more so as you've been together for a few years! i.e they had nothing else to discuss!

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:53

I suspect if your MIL made a ‘huge effort’ with you, you would find it controlling and you would wonder why she was inviting you, and why she was gifting you X. And try and minutely analyse her every action. In the same way you are analysing her lack of comment/action.

Newname85 · 23/01/2025 15:54

Oh wow! You are clearly benefiting more from this relationship financially than he does. He earns double your salary, contributes double, so things are “fair” to you. You expect him to treat his own mother like a stranger while you control how much money he gets to spend from his OWN income.

I hope he ditches you and finds someone that respects his relationship with his mother.

if you really want to stop exploiting him, consider paying your equal share. If you don’t have enough left, get a better job?

He should not need your permission to disclose HIS finances to his own mother!?

IhaveanewTVnow · 23/01/2025 15:55

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:49

Which since his mother didn’t have boo to say about me doing all the housework (interesting enough!) proves my point that she is very clearly biased bc an objective party would have pointed that out.

I disagree bc my fiance has never shown anything other than love and support for me and he isn’t the type of man to take the woman he loves so much for granted.

Well she might have commented on the housework issue but why would he tell you that. It’s for you two to sort out.

I’ve discussed finances with my step daughter and told her to always have an escape fund. We talked about what she paid for etc. and I offered my opinion. But I didn’t see fit to include her partner as this was a discussion between the two of us. If she chooses to tell him I hope he doesnt react like you have. I doubt he will as he is secure and confident on the set up.

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