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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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DancingFerret · 23/01/2025 15:55

You do come across as very immature and dramatic, OP. I hope it's just the way you write because right now my sympathies are with your fiancé, his mother and his family.

Naunet · 23/01/2025 15:56

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:49

Which since his mother didn’t have boo to say about me doing all the housework (interesting enough!) proves my point that she is very clearly biased bc an objective party would have pointed that out.

I disagree bc my fiance has never shown anything other than love and support for me and he isn’t the type of man to take the woman he loves so much for granted.

Good point!

I hope you're right, but, please do at least think about it, maybe ask him to clean the bathroom as a one off, just to see how be takes it? If you feel nervous about asking that or he objects, you'll see there is an issue there. The fact that he let's you do all the cleaning just because you earn less, isn't the best indication that he doesn't see it as womens work to be honest. Good luck!

Mymanyellow · 23/01/2025 15:56

Such a drama. Completely overreacted. Crying needing quiet time to calm down.
You have said she didn’t offer any advice about what to do. They were just talking. If I were him I’d be worried that you are showing some clear controlling tendencies.
The love he has for his mother is different from the love he has for you. It’s not a competition.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:56

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 15:44

So. I have been with DH since he was 21 (and he was the same age). We have shown our commitment to each other in lots of ways before we were thirty. What does that have to do with talking to my mother about my financial set up?

I trust DH but I still wanted her independent opinion. And if DH had a problem with that or with my speaking to her daily about our life I would have a problem with HIM.

And we have been together for 23 years and as we live with his mom now and I speak to my dad daily.

But clearly if my fiancé wants to hide the advice his mother gave (which he said she just listened) but in responding to what you said something is untoward going on in terms of how his mother said she thinks the financial set up should be. Something that would only benefit him and hurt me otherwise why not be open with the woman you are about to marry? People who have nothing to hide hide nothing. Up front open and honest communication is key here. Yes I deserve not to be made ignorant to what is happening with our finances. It’s a whole different ball game to be like, “hey babe my mom thinks this might be helpful for our overall marriage and benefit the both of us.” Then being like, “my mom gave me financial advise in terms of our shared finances but sorry you can’t know what it is” my first thought would be what is he hiding?

so you been with your man for 9 years before marriage yet you still fully didn’t trust him? May I ask why??

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LifeExperience · 23/01/2025 15:57

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:41

It’s the laying out our exact financial set up to a T that bothers me. No reason that is any of her business or she needs to know that. Some information need to be left between the couple. Finances and in-laws/family don’t mix unless of course one is providing financial help which isn’t the case for us. I guess to me finances are a private thing. I don’t share that information with my parents. I think if I’m not comfortable with that aspect of our relationship being shared there is nothing wrong with me expressing that need to keep that between the two of us. It’s all how I word it. If I say something like, “hey honey I would appreciate it if our financial information between us would stay between the two of us I feel more comfortable that way and don’t want anyone involved in our personal relationship set up to that degree.”

I do appreciate what others are saying though that it might be a cultural difference as I am not British I am American. So maybe in other cultures finances aren’t considered as private. However my fiancé is American as well. It just wouldn’t cross my mind to share something like that with my parents.

also the talking everyday thing just seems a little enmeshed. A bit teetering on mommas boy territory and I want to avoid that. I talk once a week to my parents and I consider us close. But again you guys say it’s a normal amount so maybe it’s me and my normal meter is broken.

im taking on all the feedback.

I'm American too and 100% agree with you. A couple's finances are nobody else's business and he should respect your boundaries. A one-off is fine, but now that you've explained your boundary he needs to respect it.

LAMPS1 · 23/01/2025 15:57

He only told her the framework of how you deal with your finances, he didn’t tell her the numbers of how much you earn/save/spend/owe etc etc.
I think it’s nothing to actually cry about OP. That’s a bit over the top surely.
You have told him you didn’t like it and he’s apologised and no doubt won’t do it again.
So why is it still a problem to you.
No need to be jealous of his relationship with his mum. Just because you are madly in love doesn’t mean he doesn’t love and care for her too. And can’t have a decent open relationship with her.
Your reaction…crying…feels a tiny bit controlling to me.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 15:58

DancingFerret · 23/01/2025 15:55

You do come across as very immature and dramatic, OP. I hope it's just the way you write because right now my sympathies are with your fiancé, his mother and his family.

His mother has nothing to do with our relationship so why do your sympathies go to her.

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MeAndBoqDrivesmemad · 23/01/2025 15:59

I think it’s more concerning that you’re responsible for all the cleaning. Why is this?

AgnesX · 23/01/2025 15:59

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:31

Im American so I do accept maybe it’s an American thing to be more private about a couple’s finances. Good to know in other cultures people are more open about it. I appreciate that perspective. That gives me food for thought.

Not necessarily. I'm in the UK and my in-laws don't know our finances or my DHs. I wouldn't be too amused if my DH shared my personal information either.

Do you know your MILs situation. I don't know mine and she'd sooner drink vinegar than tell me.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:02

LifeExperience · 23/01/2025 15:57

I'm American too and 100% agree with you. A couple's finances are nobody else's business and he should respect your boundaries. A one-off is fine, but now that you've explained your boundary he needs to respect it.

not according to the responses on here. I’m controlling and awful for even suggesting such a thing. And not only that but my fiancé doesn’t need to be honest and up front with me as his future wife about the financial advice his mom gave him in regards to something that is OURS. Which is a form of financial abuse in and of itself not letting your partner know about financial changes or decisions that affect both of us. So his mother has a right to know and be involved in something they has zero effect on her or her life but the person who it actually involves doesn’t have a right to know. Yeah no I wouldn’t sign up for that.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:02

MeAndBoqDrivesmemad · 23/01/2025 15:59

I think it’s more concerning that you’re responsible for all the cleaning. Why is this?

It was actually my idea and it’s because I felt bad that my career choice didn’t make enough money.

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Itisjustmyopinion · 23/01/2025 16:02

Your age and therefore immaturity is showing OP. It’s perfectly normal to continue to have a close relationship with your parents when in a relationship without you being “enmeshed”. If any partner of mine got the hump with me confiding with my mum or dad then it would be a short relationship. Plus he hasn’t broken any confidences by saying amounts, he only discussed the set up which is a normal conversation

It has always been a deal breaker in any of my relationships to have joint finances. Working in financial services all my working life, it is drilled into us, especially women, how important financial independence is and I would never be in a relationship where money is merged. You see it all the time on here, people insisting on joint accounts and then struggle to end a relationship due to financial reasons

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 16:02

Oh I trusted DH per se but my mom brought me up to a fierce feminist and I absolutely wanted her opinion on our financial set up.
It’s asking the perspective of another adult with more life experience than me who will always have MY best interest at heart for some advice. What is wrong with that? My relationship with my mother is/was life long till her death.

ThatMerryReader · 23/01/2025 16:03

There is nothing wrong with that. Some people have a good relationship with their parents.

Newmumburnout · 23/01/2025 16:03

I swear your MIL created a thread about this too just the other day !

MeAndBoqDrivesmemad · 23/01/2025 16:04

I think it’s more concerning that you’re responsible for all the cleaning. Why is this?

It was actually my idea and it’s because I felt bad that my career choice didn’t make enough money.

Do you work similar hours?

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 16:04

Oh fucking hell now it’s financial abuse!!

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:05

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 15:51

Bc if he really and truly has my best interests at heart then this wouldn’t need to be a conversation away from me

This is incredibly controlling. He’s allowed to have conversations without you.

You sound like the type to think he shouldn’t socialise without you present at all times either.

Yes but this involves both of us so if he really wanted to make sure our financial set up was fair to both of us why not have the other person involved who is half/part of that financial set up?

this isn’t a conversation about sports he is having without me don’t be dense. This involves me as well.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:06

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 16:04

Oh fucking hell now it’s financial abuse!!

Please read my whole response. I was talking in reference to another poster who said it was ok for him to keep financial adviser that his mother gave him hidden from me. Which is a little suspect

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NeedABabelFish · 23/01/2025 16:06

I think you're massively overreacting. You cried and needed "alone time"? It sounds as though he just had a fairly normal conversation with his mum!

My DD is 30, been with her partner for 9 years. We only live an hours drive apart but are in contact, mainly WhatsApp, almost every day. I know their financial set up and she knows mine and DH's. It's the kind of thing that families have chats about, it just comes up during the course of conversation sometimes. It's really not a big deal!

Terrribletwos · 23/01/2025 16:07

@ThisQuickJadeWasp I don't think there is any cultural difference really. I would certainly not be discussing my finances with family and I don't know anyone who would!

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:08

Itisjustmyopinion · 23/01/2025 16:02

Your age and therefore immaturity is showing OP. It’s perfectly normal to continue to have a close relationship with your parents when in a relationship without you being “enmeshed”. If any partner of mine got the hump with me confiding with my mum or dad then it would be a short relationship. Plus he hasn’t broken any confidences by saying amounts, he only discussed the set up which is a normal conversation

It has always been a deal breaker in any of my relationships to have joint finances. Working in financial services all my working life, it is drilled into us, especially women, how important financial independence is and I would never be in a relationship where money is merged. You see it all the time on here, people insisting on joint accounts and then struggle to end a relationship due to financial reasons

That’s your financial set up though now ours. As long as the set up we had work for the couple that’s what matters. There isn’t one right way or wrong way. It’s the fact he didn’t involve me in the discussion that I’m side eyeing if he really wanted to protect both of us what’s the point in leaving me out as the woman he is about to marry?? If this is my account as well why not have all 3 of us talk together unless there is something he doesn’t want to tell me.

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Daisy12Maisie · 23/01/2025 16:08

I've always told my sons that when they are in long term relationships/ married etc to our those before their relationship with me because those will become their primary relationship. I wouldn't snoop. But at the moment my 17 year old and I talk about money and he knows my situation and visa Versa. It's a learning thing. More teenagers should be taught about money.

I wouldn't ask him how his finances were set up in the future with a future partner but I don't see why it would be a secret.

Do you think she will criticise you for putting less in financially than he does? Do you think that is why you are upset about it?

I think your set up is fairly normal in a marriage but not normal in a couple just dating so as you are engaged it all seems reasonable to me and I can't really see why his mum would criticise.

I personally don't speak to my mum every day as I find speaking to her very stressful but lots of people do speak to their mums every day. Presumably this is not a new thing?

I don't think he is in the wrong for speaking to his mum about his finances. Maybe he was chatting conversationally.
If he said I want us to pay 50/50 for things now as my mum thinks that is what should happen then yes he would be in the wrong for letting his mum dictate.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 23/01/2025 16:09

Janbluesuary · 23/01/2025 13:36

Surely this is a reverse of the post the mother posted yesterday where she was told to butt out

Agreed. Very odd this has appeared today?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 16:12

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 16:02

Oh I trusted DH per se but my mom brought me up to a fierce feminist and I absolutely wanted her opinion on our financial set up.
It’s asking the perspective of another adult with more life experience than me who will always have MY best interest at heart for some advice. What is wrong with that? My relationship with my mother is/was life long till her death.

That’s just it though my fiancé fine loves me enough to marry me should want BOTH our best interest at heart. Which is why if this is our account which it is both of ours why not have this conversation together or at least fill me in hey this might be better in the long run for both of us.

So if his mom did give advice which she didn’t but if she did and he makes financial changes based on her advice solely in favor of him and he makes changes due to that you wouldn’t find that problematic? Interesting you identify as a feminist yet think a woman should be kept in the dark financially. In the natural flow of conversation if my husband said his mother gave him advice on finances and I said oh what was that I would love to know what ways we can better manage our finances and he said oh I can’t tell you that I would look at him like he had three heads and just assume he was joking that or very clearly drunk. I would say oh ok then guess we are keeping everything separate since you want to keep me in the dark.

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