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The KKK is feeling pretty empowered

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Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 22/01/2025 17:23

This is what happens when a man like Donald Trump gets in power.

These are the people who feel empowered.

While MN celebrates the " only two genders ", people of colour in Kentucky are scared.

I've seen threads on here wishing the UK had Trump. Is this really what you want?

Is this really the type of people you want in power?

Those that voted for Trump over trans issues, what about shit like this? Or women dying from lack of abortion access? Or climate change? Or the casual revisiting of gay marriage rights?

According to GLAAD all resources referencing LGBTQ and HIV have been removed from the White House website. Gay, lesbian, no results come up in the search.

" Pages removed include WhiteHouse.gov’s equity report (no longer accessible), a fact sheet with information on expanding access to HIV prevention and treatment (no longer accessible), and information about LGBTQ Pride Month (no longer accessible). Agency page removals include Department of State’s LGBTQ rights (no longer accessible), and Department of Labor’s LGBTQ workers page (no longer accessible). "

glaad.org/releases/breaking-trump-administration-removes-lgbtq-and-hiv-resources-from-white-house-and-other-government-websites/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/22/kkk-immigrants-flyers-kentucky

This is scary shit. I don't get how any one envies?

KKK distributes flyers in Kentucky telling immigrants to ‘leave now’

Documents, including phone number and invitation to ‘join us’, distributed same day Trump took office

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/22/kkk-immigrants-flyers-kentucky

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Helleofabore · 23/01/2025 18:43

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/01/2025 17:55

Those flags mean something because of the hard fought for rights.

As I said earlier gay marriage has only been a right since 2015.

Black people face police brutality and incarceration more than any other race.

These things matter.

And what about all the other groups who have fought just as hard for their rights?

yes, these things matter! That is why prioritising one or two groups above others is harmful. That is what flying flags for only selected groups symbolises that those other groups don’t matter as much.

Monka · 23/01/2025 19:04

TheGirlattheBack · 22/01/2025 17:55

America has lots of very complex social issues that are not comparable to the UK. Trump standing up for women’s sex based rights is a good thing for their country though.

Trump recognises two genders but not women’s reproductive rights. only today the Democrats had to block the attempts to get the start of an anti abortion bill through.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/01/22/congress/senate-dems-block-abortion-bill-00200003

Also the Republicans led by Trump are looking to reintroduce covenant marriages in some states. This removes no fault divorce and puts the burden of proof on the person filing, even if that person is filing so that they can leave an abusive marriage .

https://www.themarysue.com/the-start-of-the-handmaids-tale-multiple-states-push-for-covenant-marriage-bills-to-take-away-no-fault-divorce-option/

‘The start of the handmaid’s tale’: Multiple states push for Covenant Marriage bills to take away no-fault divorce option

Multiple states are pushing to legalize covenant marriages as a way to eliminate some women's access to a no-fault divorce.

https://www.themarysue.com/the-start-of-the-handmaids-tale-multiple-states-push-for-covenant-marriage-bills-to-take-away-no-fault-divorce-option

Youngheartsalittletogetherness · 23/01/2025 19:06

All from the man who described his daughter as a hot piece of ass🤮🤢

Nameychangington · 23/01/2025 19:16

Helleofabore · 23/01/2025 18:43

And what about all the other groups who have fought just as hard for their rights?

yes, these things matter! That is why prioritising one or two groups above others is harmful. That is what flying flags for only selected groups symbolises that those other groups don’t matter as much.

Yep. Where are the flags for wheelchair users? Or people with hearing loss? Or neurodivergent people, or women, or elderly people or or or. The empty virtue signalling and perceived primacy of certain groups, in what is supposedly diversity, equality and inclusion, actually alienated a lot of people. Including some people in the groups the flags supposedly support - here, for instance, is gay man Dennis Kavanagh on rainbow flags:

https://dennisnoelkavanagh.substack.com/p/spare-me-your-bloody-rainbow-lanyards

Spare me your bloody rainbow lanyards

Only the enemies of gay rights insist on wearing medals for a war they did not fight

https://dennisnoelkavanagh.substack.com/p/spare-me-your-bloody-rainbow-lanyards

Livelovebehappy · 23/01/2025 19:19

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Ridiculous comparison. WW2, there was no social media, the only communication platform was via newspapers. TVs were only available in very few homes. That’s why Auchwitz happened - people generally didn’t have much of a clue what was going on in the rest of the world, and that could never happen now. These days people can make educated decisions because there’s so much more information out there on social media platforms.

CautiousLurker01 · 23/01/2025 19:21

Nameychangington · 23/01/2025 19:16

Yep. Where are the flags for wheelchair users? Or people with hearing loss? Or neurodivergent people, or women, or elderly people or or or. The empty virtue signalling and perceived primacy of certain groups, in what is supposedly diversity, equality and inclusion, actually alienated a lot of people. Including some people in the groups the flags supposedly support - here, for instance, is gay man Dennis Kavanagh on rainbow flags:

https://dennisnoelkavanagh.substack.com/p/spare-me-your-bloody-rainbow-lanyards

Love me an article by Dennis!!

ARealitycheck · 23/01/2025 19:43

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/01/2025 17:51

Could you please explain why you call them " mickey mouse jobs".

That's fairly insulting.

Apologies I mean no insult. But my understanding the federal employees in question were part of job creation by Biden to run workshops and create programs which essentially gave the employees an advantage for being part of a perceived prejudiced group. Didn't it also give funding to small businesses if they could tick the box it was owned by one of the groups.

Jobs or funding should only be available to the best candidate based on how competently they can carry out the role. Giving a job to someone with less competence just to tick the equality box is discrimination.

LadyGreyson · 23/01/2025 21:02

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ShirkingFromHome95 · 23/01/2025 21:41

CautiousLurker01 · 23/01/2025 16:25

Actually Hitler was never voted into power.

The Nazi party was voted into power in 1933 with 43.9% of the vote, and Hitler was appointed chancellor by President Hindenburg in 1933. When the President died in 1934 Hitler declared himself leader/Fuhrer. So, no, he wasn’t ever elected or even chosen.

And no, History is therefore not repeating itself at all.

(GCSE History, courtesy of my kids, for reference).

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Didn't he bring the country out of massive hyperinflation too?

What seems clear is that populations that are suffering will prioritise resolving this over pandering to wokeness (although I doubt many people predicted the Holocaust).

JazzyJelly · 23/01/2025 21:52

ShirkingFromHome95 · 23/01/2025 21:41

Didn't he bring the country out of massive hyperinflation too?

What seems clear is that populations that are suffering will prioritise resolving this over pandering to wokeness (although I doubt many people predicted the Holocaust).

No, that was a crisis in 1923, which was the year Hitler first tried to take over Germany in the Munich Putsch. He was in prison for the recovery. But concerns about the economy remained in people's minds.

(History teacher)

izimbra · 23/01/2025 21:52

@ARealitycheck

"perceived prejudiced group"

Are you implying that prejudice and discrimination in hiring and employment isn't real?

izimbra · 23/01/2025 22:01

"Jobs or funding should only be available to the best candidate based on how competently they can carry out the role. Giving a job to someone with less competence just to tick the equality box is discrimination."

That's not how DEI works.

Discrimination in recruitment is a fact - it impacts on people with disabilities, women and people from ethnic minorities. There's plenty of evidence from social research to prove that this is the case.

How do you suggest it be addressed?

BTW DEI doesn't require employers to recruit people who aren't suitable for the role they're trying to fill.

You should ask yourself why able bodied white men were vastly over represented in positions of seniority across all sectors of business and industry until initiatives were introduced to promote recruitment from a wider demographic (which what DEI was intended to do). Do you think it's something about being male, white and able bodied that just makes them better than everyone else?

ARealitycheck · 23/01/2025 23:13

izimbra · 23/01/2025 22:01

"Jobs or funding should only be available to the best candidate based on how competently they can carry out the role. Giving a job to someone with less competence just to tick the equality box is discrimination."

That's not how DEI works.

Discrimination in recruitment is a fact - it impacts on people with disabilities, women and people from ethnic minorities. There's plenty of evidence from social research to prove that this is the case.

How do you suggest it be addressed?

BTW DEI doesn't require employers to recruit people who aren't suitable for the role they're trying to fill.

You should ask yourself why able bodied white men were vastly over represented in positions of seniority across all sectors of business and industry until initiatives were introduced to promote recruitment from a wider demographic (which what DEI was intended to do). Do you think it's something about being male, white and able bodied that just makes them better than everyone else?

I believe if the best person for a role happens to be disabled black lesbian, then they should get the job. But common sense dictates, if the best person for a job happens to be an athletic white heterosexual male, then that same criteria should apply.

Using as an example a refuge for women escaping abuse. Of course a woman is much more suitable for the role. Door security at a nightcub, again women can often have an advantage in their ability to defuse a situation or where a couple of guys fighting won't want to be seen to hit a woman.

The same of course though applies to men. As an example, there will be roles where the physical strength differences and intimidation that come from size can play to the advantage.

Recent history has had men and women trying to show we are as good or better than the other. Rather than utilising each others strengths.

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 23/01/2025 23:25

Agree completely, OP.
I find it scary that he's emboldening racist groups like this, I'm white so goodness knows what people who aren't feel like.
This kind of shit should have no place in today's society.

LadyGreyson · 23/01/2025 23:37

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ARealitycheck · 23/01/2025 23:40

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They may well be the best candidates for those roles at that time. And before you make any claims of sexism, Look at who was the UK's longest serving PM.

LadyGreyson · 23/01/2025 23:45

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Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/01/2025 23:46

Nameychangington · 23/01/2025 19:16

Yep. Where are the flags for wheelchair users? Or people with hearing loss? Or neurodivergent people, or women, or elderly people or or or. The empty virtue signalling and perceived primacy of certain groups, in what is supposedly diversity, equality and inclusion, actually alienated a lot of people. Including some people in the groups the flags supposedly support - here, for instance, is gay man Dennis Kavanagh on rainbow flags:

https://dennisnoelkavanagh.substack.com/p/spare-me-your-bloody-rainbow-lanyards

Because the history of those issues aren't the same.

Again, black people still face more police brutality and incarceration than any other race in the US. This is why Black Lives Matter was such an important movement.

The elderly, are not shot and killed for being old. The elderly were not lynched for looking a white woman in the eye.

Deaf people, were not rounded up and raped and abused by their white slave owners.

Surely you understand the difference right? The KKK isn't handing out flyers for the people in wheel chairs to leave the country.

And again, let me repeat, gay marriage hasn't even been legal for a decade! Gay people, have not had the protection of marriage rights until 2015.

Not all issues are the same.

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Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/01/2025 23:51

ARealitycheck · 23/01/2025 23:40

They may well be the best candidates for those roles at that time. And before you make any claims of sexism, Look at who was the UK's longest serving PM.

You think white men in the US just happen to be the best candidate for more jobs?

Really?

You don't believe race, gender, or disability play a role?

You don't think the fact Biden included pregnant women in the legislature was for a reason?

Do you think companies are going to hire a woman who may go on maternity leave over a man who won't?

I have to ask if you're serious?
Why do you think white men are usually in power? Are they better than the rest?

Do you not believe racism, sexism, homophobia, and ableism still exist?

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Helleofabore · 23/01/2025 23:52

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/01/2025 23:46

Because the history of those issues aren't the same.

Again, black people still face more police brutality and incarceration than any other race in the US. This is why Black Lives Matter was such an important movement.

The elderly, are not shot and killed for being old. The elderly were not lynched for looking a white woman in the eye.

Deaf people, were not rounded up and raped and abused by their white slave owners.

Surely you understand the difference right? The KKK isn't handing out flyers for the people in wheel chairs to leave the country.

And again, let me repeat, gay marriage hasn't even been legal for a decade! Gay people, have not had the protection of marriage rights until 2015.

Not all issues are the same.

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i see. So you believe that it is justified for a selection of groups to have flags flown over government buildings vs other groups.

I understand.

ARealitycheck · 23/01/2025 23:53

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That is not what is being said. At the time of appointment. If the person best suited to the role is a disabled black lesbian, then that is who should be appointed. Likewise if it is someone else, they should get the job.

ARealitycheck · 23/01/2025 23:56

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/01/2025 23:51

You think white men in the US just happen to be the best candidate for more jobs?

Really?

You don't believe race, gender, or disability play a role?

You don't think the fact Biden included pregnant women in the legislature was for a reason?

Do you think companies are going to hire a woman who may go on maternity leave over a man who won't?

I have to ask if you're serious?
Why do you think white men are usually in power? Are they better than the rest?

Do you not believe racism, sexism, homophobia, and ableism still exist?

I encourage you to read my previous post describing the UK's longest serving PM. At the time SHE was the best candidiate.

ARealitycheck · 24/01/2025 00:00

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The poitician I have admired most in recent times is a lady called Ruth Davidson. An out and proud lesbian and leader of the Scottish Conservatives. I always felt she would have made an exceptional PM due to her common sense.

user243245346 · 24/01/2025 00:02

It's not true that black people face more brutality or incarceration than others involved in crime in the USA. And it's not true at all in other countries.

It is the case that gay marriage is a fairly recent phenomenon but doesn't mean that discrimination against gay people is much worse compared to eg autistic people.

We do need to do what we can to eliminate discrimination but this means treating people fairly and equally regardless of race or sex etc. the best person for the job should get the job regardless of race, sex etc

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 24/01/2025 00:04

Appalonia · 23/01/2025 06:03

OP if you're Canadian, WHY are you coming on a UK site and lecturing British women about something that's got nothing to do with them? What's your agenda? Shouldn't you be trying to affect change in your own country?

OP is right to feel concerned, and as a British woman myself I don't feel lectured, do you seriously think that just because it's America it doesn't concern us?!
Course it does. We already have Musk sticking his nose in to our politics, and our own version of Trump in the likes of Farage.
It's incredibly naive to think "just because it's America it doesn't concern us."