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Feel awful about MIL's passing but struggling with baby - AIBU?

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Charlottef94 · 21/01/2025 11:40

My MIL sadly passed away last week after a terminal illness. She and FIL live in a very very remote part of UK which takes around 12 hrs door to door from us. We were there a week ago luckily before she passed, with our 4 month old.

When she passed overnight last week I stayed as we had already postponed our babys vaccines by over a month due to all the travel over Christmas and up to see them, and they were due to have them that day. DH went up to FIL straight away - however I now feel that he is angry with me that we didnt go immediately and is being quite insensitive to me in having to make this huge journey now on my own as well as currently solo parenting our baby who is going through 4month sleep regression.

I have offered to go up asap, however with the funeral date tbc I would like us to stay up there, until the funeral rather than come back home and back up again. I just feel that it's so many extremely long journeys for our baby who was v unsettled last time we went up there, has just settled down at home again - this is why I wanted to give him a few extra days to get over his jabs and be at home before more upheaval. We have also only been married a year and I did feel that at such a raw time for FIL, having me there hanging around in the very beginning would feel intrusive on his grief as he is alone with DH at the moment.

I just feel my DH is not caring about us at all at the moment, he is barely speaking to me and keeps making sharp comments about how he wants me to get there asap as FIL is really keen to be surrounded by all the grandchildren, as if I am refusing to go. His SIL gets there today with baby. There is a turn in the weather this week meaning I am unlikely to be able to make it to where they live this week or could get stranded with our baby, but I feel DH will tell me we have to try and make the journey.

AIBU in feeling a bit upset myself? I know he has lost his mum but I am trying my best to hold everything together and stable here for our baby and I feel so alone and worried that I've been unreasonable in staying home for a bit longer given the circumstances.

OP posts:
MiddleAgedAndExhausted · 21/01/2025 16:54

Could you break up your journey with an overnight stay? If you're going to a Scottish island where ferries are notoriously unreliable it might be sensible.

Choccyscofffy · 21/01/2025 16:54

Completelyjo · 21/01/2025 16:40

These ridiculous minimising comments are actually offensive. The father wants to see his child too.

Yes if a father was off on paternity leave with no commitments I would expect him to stay at his in-laws home to support his wife during the funeral prep for her mother.

God knows what some of your marriages are like because Jesus Christ you have a low bar.

These ridiculous minimising comments are actually offensive. The father wants to see his child too.

The OP says her H is ‘making sharp comments about how he wants me to get there asap as FIL is really keen to be surrounded by all the grandchildren’

If anyone is minimising it’s you, as you keep white washing the H’s lack of care for his wife and baby.

Yes if a father was off on paternity leave with no commitments I would expect him to stay at his in-laws home to support his wife during the funeral prep for her mother.

I doubt this. You know it wouldn’t happen, unless the location was desirable. A month isn’t a reasonable expectation.

God knows what some of your marriages are like because Jesus Christ you have a low bar.

A marriage is healthier when you don’t expect grand gestures like month long stays with in laws in remote locations in winter with a tiny baby to prove your love.

You have unreasonable expectations, like OP’s DH.

Have you not seen the many posts by women upthread who said they appreciated their partners caring for their children which freed them up to grieve properly? OP has given this to her H but it’s been ridiculed by some on this thread as lacking and selfish.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/01/2025 16:54

user1480154707 · 21/01/2025 16:42

"Sad about your mum" 😳😳😳

I know, right. That's what the lady in the corner shop who doesn't even know my name said when one of my parents died. And that was lovely and appreciated, but I wasn't married to her.

And I'm horrified at the posts sticking the knife into a grieving fil calling him selfish, spoilt and entitled for wanting his grandchildren around when he is so very recently bereaved. Ok it might not be the right thing for OP or her baby and that's fine but the man is exhibiting perfectly natural behaviour for his circumstances and should not be castigated over it.

User860131 · 21/01/2025 16:58

Completelyjo · 21/01/2025 16:37

If your spouse wouldn’t do this for you then you’ve married the wrong person.

I flew from abroad solo with a baby to a rural location with a days notice to support my DH when his mother died in his 20s.

If I didn’t think he would willingly support me in the way I needed through a similar event then we wouldn’t be married.

I would expect my spouse to prioritise my child's needs is my point. 2 of my dd's friend's mums have passed away tragically of cancer when their children were only reception age. Their dads have both been absolute superstars. The kids were up and living their normal daily routine and bringing them to school etc the very next day. This must have been agony for their dads but it is what's advised is best for the kids so they got on and did it. The world didn't need to stop for them and in fact this often just prolongs and complicates the grief.

Of course I love my spouse enough to travel with a baby to rural Scotland (presumably) for 12 hours. It doesn't mean I will do it without any consideration for the practicalities and necessities of it. I'm a kind and devoted person but it doesn't mean I'm a mug.

jannier · 21/01/2025 17:01

C8H10N4O2 · 21/01/2025 14:48

One thing this thread has done for me - I'm profoundly grateful that we both have families where people still will put themselves out and go to great lengths (including planes, trains, cars and travelling with small children) to support each other when needed.

My life would have been much more difficult if most of them decided its all just too difficult and the bereaved and the sick could make do with a few phone calls. All of them would say the same.

It sure does .....Im praying for Karma where all these people need comfort help and support and it doesn't suit their own children. You get what you teach.

Choccyscofffy · 21/01/2025 17:03

jannier · 21/01/2025 17:01

It sure does .....Im praying for Karma where all these people need comfort help and support and it doesn't suit their own children. You get what you teach.

You’re praying for bad things to happen to people and that they don’t any support? How is that compassionate? I don’t wish bad things for anyone on this thread.

HoraceGoesBonkers · 21/01/2025 17:03

OP, can you speak to the parents of the 10 year old to figure out what's going on there?

It seems highly unlikely any school in Scotland would refuse permission to leave to see a recently bereaved grandparent or to go to the funeral, and anyway as a PP poster says there are no fines. There also isn't much going on in terms of exams or tests at that point either.

The GF also seems to be putting an awfully big pressure on the 10yo to attend, and from what you've said about the location it's likely to be a service then a burial rather than an hour at the local crem, which from personal experience is quite a lengthy drawn out event for a younger person to go through.

I'm thinking that maybe his parents might be helpful to speak to, as you might be able to co-ordinate things or find some support?

jannier · 21/01/2025 17:05

HideousKinky · 21/01/2025 15:14

It is reasonable for you to put the baby's needs first. Your husband, his father & sister have each other for support.

When my MIL died 15 years ago only my DH made the very long journey to see her in her final days & the funeral. I stayed at home with DDs who were coming up to important exams. My DH has several siblings who all supported each other and he phoned me every night to talk.

I loved my MIL very much and in an ideal world would have been there but sometimes compromises must be made. DH's whole family understood that. Perhaps you & the baby should travel there closer to the time of the funeral

How can you compare a 4 month sleep anywhere baby with very important exams? This is about ops convenience nothing else.

rainythursdayontheavenue · 21/01/2025 17:07

I lost my Dad 2 years ago later this month and it goddam nearly broke me. DH was an absolute rock and just carried me for those first 4 weeks when I was so broken. If he'd started fussing over logistics, I can't honestly see how we'd have weathered that storm.

Pepsipepsi · 21/01/2025 17:08

Far flung island, in winter with a 90mph wind weather warning coming, with a tiny baby in tow, travelling alone, then stuck inside the whole time? No way would I be making that journey. Your FIL and husband have each other. You'd be much better placed supporting over phone calls at home.

When you live rural and remote you have to accept that not everyone can and will drop everything for every life event that happens.

I don't think their grief trumps your need to care for baby and yourself tbh. Apart from physically being there what else do they think yours and babies presence will bring? The fact that your transport is being dictated sounds like they are putting their wants above anything else.

User860131 · 21/01/2025 17:09

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/01/2025 16:54

I know, right. That's what the lady in the corner shop who doesn't even know my name said when one of my parents died. And that was lovely and appreciated, but I wasn't married to her.

And I'm horrified at the posts sticking the knife into a grieving fil calling him selfish, spoilt and entitled for wanting his grandchildren around when he is so very recently bereaved. Ok it might not be the right thing for OP or her baby and that's fine but the man is exhibiting perfectly natural behaviour for his circumstances and should not be castigated over it.

I'm not labelling FIL as selfish exactly. However, I can say hand on heart that if I lost my dh and my ds was staying with me for days/weeks on end missing his 4 month old baby grow up and leaving his dw to manage said baby alone I wouldn't be guilting DIL into visiting me I'd 100% be literally kicking my ds back to his little family if I had to. Babys are only babys for a preciously small amount of time and their experiences in this time shape them forever. Sorry but they take priority

jannier · 21/01/2025 17:09

ClockingOffers · 21/01/2025 15:43

But none of that is especially onerous and there’s other siblings PLUS his own dad is still alive and presumably doing half of those jobs himself as it was HIS WIFE who has just died?

Or are you concerned that the menfolk couldn’t possibly manage to organise anything on their own? The Funeral Directors will be happy to offer advice if asked.

Why on earth does the OP need to go up there now? Surely a day or so before the funeral and return home shortly after is perfectly adequate in terms of being supportive?

Honestly, this thread is nuts in expecting the OP to put herself out to such a ridiculous extent to appease two perfectly capable men.

How many funerals have you organised? Whilst not hard in itself add the emotion and loss you can feel imobile and lost just needing the hug of your partner and to hold your own child. Some people are very cold others need their loved ones. It's not about your gender why does every thread have to pull out the man haters?

Boomer55 · 21/01/2025 17:11

He’s grieving someone he loves. This isn’t about you - cut him some slack. 🙄

Completelyjo · 21/01/2025 17:16

@Pepsipepsi When you live rural and remote you have to accept that not everyone can and will drop everything for every life event that happens.

No not everyone, one would hope your own wife with no work commitments would though.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/01/2025 17:17

User860131 · 21/01/2025 17:09

I'm not labelling FIL as selfish exactly. However, I can say hand on heart that if I lost my dh and my ds was staying with me for days/weeks on end missing his 4 month old baby grow up and leaving his dw to manage said baby alone I wouldn't be guilting DIL into visiting me I'd 100% be literally kicking my ds back to his little family if I had to. Babys are only babys for a preciously small amount of time and their experiences in this time shape them forever. Sorry but they take priority

Edited

I can hand on heart theoretically claim I would do/feel/think many things. Usually a different story in reality.
And grief is a unique business. Nobody can know how they feel until it hits them.

Completelyjo · 21/01/2025 17:20

User860131 · 21/01/2025 17:09

I'm not labelling FIL as selfish exactly. However, I can say hand on heart that if I lost my dh and my ds was staying with me for days/weeks on end missing his 4 month old baby grow up and leaving his dw to manage said baby alone I wouldn't be guilting DIL into visiting me I'd 100% be literally kicking my ds back to his little family if I had to. Babys are only babys for a preciously small amount of time and their experiences in this time shape them forever. Sorry but they take priority

Edited

Other than the journey which is just one annoying day, how is the baby worse off in Scotland with both parents than just with OP? A 4 month old barely knows its own surroundings.

crumblingschools · 21/01/2025 17:20

I know my DM when my DF died did not expect me to prioritise her over DC, in fact that would have upset her more.

Cherrysoup · 21/01/2025 17:20

He’d rather you got two trains and a ferry rather than a flight because it’s more expensive? He does not get to dictate that! I’d go to support my Dh, but if the funeral isn’t until half term, then I’d be coming back after a week or less, no way would I want to be stuck in someone else’s house for a month.

Babyboomtastic · 21/01/2025 17:22

Choccyscofffy · 21/01/2025 16:32

If a man on extended pat leave posted, would you be expecting him to stay in a remote location with his MIL so she could see his children?

Edited

No.

But I'd expect him to travel to a remote location so that mum could have the comfort of her baby and spouse by her side.

I'd be horrified if I had to choose between comforting a grieving parent or seeing my child, and would be resentful and sad that my spouse would choose to put me in that position, when they are on leave.

Frankly they should have gone up as a family immediately.

This has nothing to do with FIPs expectations, and everything to do with a spouse being supportive. It might be that going up for a month isn't feasible, but going up initially and then making a decision seems sensible.

Needspaceforlego · 21/01/2025 17:27

SapphireSeptember · 21/01/2025 15:54

I wouldn't want that either! A baby isn't a toy or a doll to show off to the sodding neighbours. And as FIL decided he was doing this without any say from OP, or without her being there, even though her DS cries when she's not there, I'm not surprised she wasn't happy. There was also the bit about FIL giving her DS formula when he's EBF. Sounds like a bit of a nob.

Besides that, does anyone here actually care about the baby? 12 hours is a long time to be travelling when you're tiny, and people saying they only need a day to get over their jabs. Not always. DS was off colour for days. I wouldn't want to be travelling if I was feeling shitty. And if the weather does close in like it's forecast, what happens if she gets stranded halfway there? Can she afford a hotel for a few days?

Practically speaking, how are you going to get everything up there? Pram, cot, etc?

You take the pram on the train.
The baby is small enough to sleep in the carrycot of the pram.
They must have something suitable for the baby to sleep in at the FiLs since they were there recently.

The biggest issue is trying to push a pram and pull luggage. So a backpack for clothes might be easier.

I did 3 trains and a taxi at one end and collected at the other with a 5 week old. It was relatively easy. OK it wasn't such a long journey. But baby's are fairly portable and don't really mind where they are as long as they are fed and clean. And the train sort of rocks them to sleep.

TBH train sounds easier than flying, but id pay for 1st class so you get coffee brought to you, you get on a train and it goes, flying is a faff, going through security collecting baggage. And it's a faff getting to and from airports.

The big stations can probably arrange assistance if the luggage and pram is too much to carry.

Cm19841 · 21/01/2025 17:27

It is not for your DH to decide how you get there. Take control of that. Actually it is also for you to decide that you will get there. And as soon as possible to support your husband.

Babyboomtastic · 21/01/2025 17:28

pikkumyy77 · 21/01/2025 16:42

Oh must we have a repeat of the four Yorkshiremen sketch, mumsnet version? “I squatted to give birth in the loo at work and then made my deliverables on time with no one the wiser! I cut the cord with the office stapler while I finished the company’s paperwork.”

No, and I have some sympathy, but equally, my sympathy for someone with just one child and no work to drag herself to is tempered by having a child who woke hourly for a year (didn't start until 6m though...), whilst also holding down a job and juggling a toddler.

Ultimately, I do have sympathy because I've been there on no sleep (for years) and I know how awful it makes you feel. I felt like I was living in black and white. It took me an hour once to just cook pasta and I nearly set two fires in that time. But equally, sleep deprivation can last for years, so sometimes you need to push through.

crumblingschools · 21/01/2025 17:29

@Babyboomtastic would you be happy for baby to be 2 months behind on vaccinations especially if you were then travelling for long hours on public transport and mingling with many relatives etc

We also don’t know if OP has other family commitments

crumblingschools · 21/01/2025 17:30

Interesting also how funerals etc can take many days to sort out whereas in Ireland everything seems done and dusted in about 3 days

Feelinadequate23 · 21/01/2025 17:30

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 21/01/2025 16:16

When I was 26 my younger Dsis passed away. It was an absolutely horrible time and I was in bits. My DH drove a 60 mile round trip daily (I can't drive) for about 10 days to make sure I could be with my family. He was also working all during this time too. Granted there were no kids in the picture but I'm sure this wasn't easy for him, but he stepped up for me and I'll never ever forget it.
The days feel so long when you're going through the aftermath of a family death and nothing is normal, people snap at eachother, but before you know you're out the other side and you'll only regret what you didn't do. If you can't do the month, surely there's a middle ground here where you can go out when the older DGS gets there and be with them for a week or so.

You are right - no kids in the picture makes this a completely unrelated scenario. Not remotely the same. The sacrifices I could make for others before DC would simply not be possible now as I need to put them first. As does the DH in this scenario

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