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To wonder why women 65+ are all determined that coffee should be mouthscaldingly hot

328 replies

Everythingisnumbersnow · 17/01/2025 09:09

My mum, her friends, all the ladies

A normal temp is "cold please bring another one"

Is this an era thing or will it come for me too?

OP posts:
PigInAHouse · 18/01/2025 08:42

Tricho · 18/01/2025 07:54

Coffee should be 80 degrees, any hotter and it's burnt.

If you're drinking it hotter you're doing it wrong.

However, it can appear cold if you're used to boiling hot tea etc.

I don’t care if I’m doing it ‘wrong’, I do it how I like it.
I don’t drink tea, so it’s nothing to do with that, I just prefer my coffee hot. Even if it is burnt.

BCBird · 18/01/2025 08:45

It should be served as hot as possible. The recipient then decides if they want it scalding jot or not

CatsndtheBear · 18/01/2025 09:00

In my experience, people over about 50 put in less milk. Possibly due to times in their lives when they had to be more careful. Less milk means the drink is hotter upon the recipient getting it.

Also coffee shops like Starbucks weren't popular when they were younger. Coffee shops tend to produce cooler drinks so younger people are used to it.

It takes me a good 5 mins to be able to drink something made by older relatives, but I can usually drink something made by friends immediately.

lilacsatin · 18/01/2025 09:02

In my experience, people over about 50 put in less milk. Possibly due to times in their lives when they had to be more careful.

Oh, do you mean during the war?? Decades before they were born?

PigInAHouse · 18/01/2025 09:04

I’m 40s and don’t have any milk in my coffee.

Maverickess · 18/01/2025 09:30

I don't think it's an age thing, we serve coffee where I work and we get asked for it extra hot, by all sorts of people. When we first got the machine and training we were taught that it's brewed between 90 and 96 and served at around 60 when the milk is added, depending on the milk you need for the type of coffee.

If you're wanting it extra hot though, then it's going to affect the quality of the milk if you're having cappuccino or latte for example, the different textures of the milk happen at different temperatures and milk that's been steamed to just under boiling point will not be as good a texture as at 60 or even 70 for a cappuccino.
When I'm asked for that I make it clear that it's fine, I have no issue with doing it, but that the request will affect the texture of the milk to some degree and there's not a lot I can do about that.

The ones that send the perfect milk back to be hotter, and then send the hotter one back because the milk texture is wrong are the ones who make it hard, because no matter how hard a customer complains, I can't change the laws of physics.

Extra hot isn't an issue but it comes with downsides that aren't within my control.

Extra hot americano is a bit of a mind bender, because it's coffee brewed at 96 and topped with boiling water, it physically can't get much hotter, a degree or two at the most, If someone asks for it then I'll make sure it's in a warm cup (should be anyway, but I'll choose the cup in the bottom corner of the machine that's the hottest) and I'll get it straight off the machine and to the customer, but unless you want to inhale it as a vapour, I cannot physically get it any hotter than boiling point.

Brefugee · 18/01/2025 09:32

Tricho · 18/01/2025 07:54

Coffee should be 80 degrees, any hotter and it's burnt.

If you're drinking it hotter you're doing it wrong.

However, it can appear cold if you're used to boiling hot tea etc.

80° is plenty hot

that is not what people are talking about

Jabtastic · 18/01/2025 09:33

ComtesseDeSpair · 17/01/2025 09:19

I like my drinks hot but my parents like theirs molten. They must have mouths made of asbestos. Generally if in a cafe they specify extra hot and to steam the milk to boiling point, though, so we have little of the sending it back faff.

I think many trendy younger people accept coffee less than hot because of coffee snobbery wank around too high a temp burning the artisan beans and changing the proteins in the organic milk etc.

Edited

I have specifically asked one of those places to make my coffee very hot and politely explained that I understand their coffee alchemy but I still hate tepid coffee. Iced or hot but never lukewarm! 🤢

Andsoitbeganagain · 18/01/2025 09:43

When I was pregnant my midwife told me one of the most important new skills I'd learn was how to enjoy cold coffee. Turns out she was right. Perhaps by 65 you remember how much better it is hot?

PigInAHouse · 18/01/2025 09:59

Andsoitbeganagain · 18/01/2025 09:43

When I was pregnant my midwife told me one of the most important new skills I'd learn was how to enjoy cold coffee. Turns out she was right. Perhaps by 65 you remember how much better it is hot?

I have 3 young children and have never drank a cold cup of coffee!

ZaZathecat · 18/01/2025 10:16

If you grew up with instant coffee made with boiling water from the kettle you might find most cappuccinos or lattes in a cafe 'cold'

PigInAHouse · 18/01/2025 10:18

I also don’t drink instant coffee, but still like my coffee hot. I will only order black coffee in coffee shops to make sure it’s hot enough.

pestowithwalnuts · 18/01/2025 10:20

Sahara123 · 17/01/2025 09:12

I’m 65 in a few months, I prefer my drinks at a normal non scalding temperature so unless I suddenly change overnight I can’t see how this is an age related thing….

So do I.
What sort of ,,' age related generalisation' crap is this.
No a lot of us over 65 don't need to have boiling hot coffee

GreenTeaLikesMe · 18/01/2025 10:30

CatsndtheBear · 18/01/2025 09:00

In my experience, people over about 50 put in less milk. Possibly due to times in their lives when they had to be more careful. Less milk means the drink is hotter upon the recipient getting it.

Also coffee shops like Starbucks weren't popular when they were younger. Coffee shops tend to produce cooler drinks so younger people are used to it.

It takes me a good 5 mins to be able to drink something made by older relatives, but I can usually drink something made by friends immediately.

!

People in their 50s were born in the late 60s and early 70s, and would have started indepedently making cups of tea about a decade or so after that! What sort of food shortages are you imagining?

TheWhoBird · 18/01/2025 10:48

@Gettingbysomehow, turns out your verison of the McDonald's apple pie was discontinued in 1992. And my version has been discontinued in some places now, but is available in others e.g. stopped in the US, but still available in Hawaii! Interesting info haha.

BarneyRonson · 18/01/2025 10:57

I always wonder how people are actually enjoying their tepid coffee! Having to ask for it extra hot is recent. It used to be hot!

Iknjtjumpers · 18/01/2025 11:20

My husband finds it amusing that I set a timer on my phone for when my tea has been left long enough to be at optimal drinking temperature. It’s at weekends when I’m reading my book in bed and I don’t want to forget about my tea and let it go cold. 🤣🤣

wholettheturnipsburn · 18/01/2025 12:36

CatsndtheBear · 18/01/2025 09:00

In my experience, people over about 50 put in less milk. Possibly due to times in their lives when they had to be more careful. Less milk means the drink is hotter upon the recipient getting it.

Also coffee shops like Starbucks weren't popular when they were younger. Coffee shops tend to produce cooler drinks so younger people are used to it.

It takes me a good 5 mins to be able to drink something made by older relatives, but I can usually drink something made by friends immediately.

I'm over 50

When would i have had to be "careful" with milk

Grapewrath · 18/01/2025 12:54

Older people I know are like this. I worked in a cafe with a boiling water dispenser and the older ladies would often say it wasn’t hot enough as it wasn’t straight out of the boiling kettle and a couple of degrees cooler. Often they’d get furious when I explained we didn’t have a kettle 🤣

Sooverthemill · 18/01/2025 14:09

Gettingbysomehow · 17/01/2025 21:43

We're the generation that ate those hot apple pastries at McDonalds. I'm sure they must have used uranium in those things. They could cause a third degree burns.

The only reason to go to a McDonald's when they first appeared in uk

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/01/2025 14:12

echt · 17/01/2025 09:26

Do you know all 65+ women?
No you don't.
Fucking stupid thread.

This 100%

RosesAndHellebores · 18/01/2025 14:14

wholettheturnipsburn · 18/01/2025 12:36

I'm over 50

When would i have had to be "careful" with milk

I'm 64. I agree. Rationing stopped in 1952.

My parents and grandparents were very very generous with food, because they could be and enjoyed the luxury of not counting and measuring.

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/01/2025 14:15

CatsndtheBear · 18/01/2025 09:00

In my experience, people over about 50 put in less milk. Possibly due to times in their lives when they had to be more careful. Less milk means the drink is hotter upon the recipient getting it.

Also coffee shops like Starbucks weren't popular when they were younger. Coffee shops tend to produce cooler drinks so younger people are used to it.

It takes me a good 5 mins to be able to drink something made by older relatives, but I can usually drink something made by friends immediately.

I'm 70 and was born almost 10 years after the end of the war. I have never experienced rationed milk.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 18/01/2025 14:15

I remember my uncle who spent a lot of time at our house would be given a fresh cup of tea, so very hot, and he would immediately drink it straight down in one go.

So that blows your "ladies" theory out of the water.

Ridiculous OP.

KimberleyClark · 18/01/2025 14:17

GreenTeaLikesMe · 18/01/2025 10:30

!

People in their 50s were born in the late 60s and early 70s, and would have started indepedently making cups of tea about a decade or so after that! What sort of food shortages are you imagining?

Quite - the wartime food rationing ended in 1954!