To be completely shocked by this - Bridget can’t tell us the impact of the government’s VAT on Education?

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Bridget Phillipson dodges question on impact of private school tax raid

As parents and schools complain of chaos, Ms Phillipson refuses to spell out details of the assessment made by the department for education

Bridget Phillipson failed to spell out the full impact of the government’s private school VAT raid, dodging the question when asked about the possible implications for special education schools.

While she said the government has “looked at all of the potential impacts”, her answer failed to provide any real detail on the expected consequences.

It comes as parents and schools complain about the implications of the tax raid, which came into force on New Year’s Day and is expected to raise £1.5bn for the Treasury.

YABU - Bridget Phillipson has it all in hand. She just didn’t feel like answering the pesky question. The point is to piss rich people off. Leave Labour alone, they want nothing but erm oh I’m not sure.

YANBU - Phillipson clearly has no idea what the impact of VAT on Education will be. Nor does she really care as long as she’s seen to be punishing those horrible rich people. Or even better (it seems) the not really rich ones just trying to improve the education of their children as the available state schools were not suitable.

https://apple.news/AO7fcmrzuRaik4stLaPQxwA

(sorry paywall but there’s not much more in the article)

PS. I’ve removed the poll tally, no one needs to see real data. Do they?

That's because they aren't doing it for practical or financial reasons or to raise money for State school teachers. They don't care if it actually ends up costing taxpayers money. They are doing it for idealogical reasons to shaft anyone with any cash that may have voted Conservative..same as pensioners and farmers.

I'm just assuming Bridget went out with a boy from her local private school when she was 14 and he dumped her for her best friend. Shes never forgotten the humiliation and swore then that she would do all she can to never let a private school.boy do that to another girl again. I can see no other explanation for this policy.

You said it

It really isn't envy.

I think we learnt from Brexit that whatever your impact studies say, no one has to listen and can blame anything else they like if the effects are eventually noticed.

If it's not envy then what could it be? It's going to end up costing taxpayers money and it's not going to raise money for State schools? What could motivate the well-known Marxist Corbyn's former right hand man?

Then what Is it?

What is it then?

Impact Assessments are a hugely important part of implementing legislation properly. The fact labour are happy to sacrifice them for ideological policies is worrying.

If she had good data, she would have shared it.

It’s purely ideological for her.

are doing it for idealogical reasons

Sometimes parties do things for ideological reasons.

VAT on private school to indicate that it is a luxury and that there shouldn't be a two-tier (probably 5-tier actually) education system where the children of the rich become richer.

Brexit because we hate foreigners.

Sometimes it's our ideology, sometimes it's theirs. That's why we vote in a democracy. Brexit fucked more people.

I bet Bridget is thrilled about all the money that will need to be paid back to Eton etc for capital projects. That's going to cost the taxpayer a pretty penny! That's when she might slightly regret not carrying out an impact assessment...

You can have your child educated without paying VAT, or choose to go private and pay it.

The choice is yours

Silly semantic arguments aren't going to change that.

Thr 'free state school' place costs the tax payer around £8k per anum and significantly more for a child with SEN. There is no SEN provision suitable in tge state schools, it's dire. THEY ARE SAVING THE TAXPAYER MONEY FOR GOODNESS SAKE.
NO neither myself or my kids went to private school.

As parents and schools complain of chaos, Ms Phillipson refuses to spell out details of the assessment made by the department for education

What chaos?

I don’t think it’s possible to assess the full impact straight away. I don’t think it will raise the money Labour thinks it will, or that the money will be passed to fund state education. She didn’t answer the question because she simply doesn’t know.

i am surprised that SEN schools have not been protected in some way. The state provision is woefully inadequate, so I wonder how they propose supporting those children?

For us the increase makes little difference. Our children will continue to be privately educated as will the majority of their peers.

I think we will start to see fewer parents going private in the junior years and far more pressure on state primaries as well as more competition for places in Grammar schools. It will become much harder for people to access good schools. Money will continue to talk, just in a different way.

What is envious about a business paying tax?

A private school is a business at the end if the day.

It's like the farmers they should be taxed the same as anyone else.

Oh here we go again. My give a f*s are on vacation.

Labour can chose to have thousands of children educated for free from the perspective of the taxpayer.

Or they chose to make life difficult for parents, for children to transfer to state and for the state to pay to educate those kids instead.

It's such an easy sum. And yet Bridget doesn't seem to be able to work it out!

Are you sure? I'm keen to see the evidence. Schools closing - people out of work. Public paying at least £8k per year to educate kids who come out of the private sector. The worst is the kids with SEN, state provision dies not fulfill their needs so parents in their backside having to pay for private. It's madness.

I sent my children to private school. It really is a different world. And state school kids are 3 steps behind before they even start.

I did feel at times the scale of the advantage that my children were receiving. I though, and think, that All children should have an excellent education .

But I really disliked many of the parents. Pushy , snobby, entitled.

Your post is basted in that attitude. It is deeply unpleasant and won’t win you any friends.

It's not a business. Private schools aren't there to make a profit. Any money they make is put back into the school to pay staff, pensions etc.

Yep, so the numbers aren’t looking good after all

Not true. Some are run by educational Trusts. But many by venture capitalists

Plus any money made (which will be none) by wrecking British children's education will just be poured down THE 22 MILLION POUND BLACK HOLE. Great.

Name a school that it run by venture capitalists in the UK that doesn't not need to put its money back on the school. I'm not trying to make a point. I'm just interested which schools do this and how many.