To be completely shocked by this - Bridget can’t tell us the impact of the government’s VAT on Education?

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Bridget Phillipson dodges question on impact of private school tax raid

As parents and schools complain of chaos, Ms Phillipson refuses to spell out details of the assessment made by the department for education

Bridget Phillipson failed to spell out the full impact of the government’s private school VAT raid, dodging the question when asked about the possible implications for special education schools.

While she said the government has “looked at all of the potential impacts”, her answer failed to provide any real detail on the expected consequences.

It comes as parents and schools complain about the implications of the tax raid, which came into force on New Year’s Day and is expected to raise £1.5bn for the Treasury.

YABU - Bridget Phillipson has it all in hand. She just didn’t feel like answering the pesky question. The point is to piss rich people off. Leave Labour alone, they want nothing but erm oh I’m not sure.

YANBU - Phillipson clearly has no idea what the impact of VAT on Education will be. Nor does she really care as long as she’s seen to be punishing those horrible rich people. Or even better (it seems) the not really rich ones just trying to improve the education of their children as the available state schools were not suitable.

https://apple.news/AO7fcmrzuRaik4stLaPQxwA

(sorry paywall but there’s not much more in the article)

PS. I’ve removed the poll tally, no one needs to see real data. Do they?

Here you go @AgathaPanthus it seems it is your understanding that is resistant

For some it isn't "just a few quid in tax". For example someone I know using inheritance to pay for education - £10k per year added on, now means DC and they have no savings at all once they have finished A' Levels. That money has been taxed upon earning, taxed as savings, taxed again through inheritance tax and now taxed for education. It's teaching people there is no point in saving at all.

A lot of families are very international now with access to multiple passports or just family members with eg US citizenship. I find that if you have a good job and some wealth most countries will happily take you. You are either young and educated or older and an expert in your field or elderly and wealthy.

Of course it is not “fair” and like that for many kids, but even in our London state schools, it’s a fact, for many youngsters. And there are plenty who got eg Irish passports via a grandparent as well.
The new wave is Chinese and Honk Kong arrivals and to be honest, many are hardworking so Britain will probably just rely on them to fill some of the professional vacancies in the future.

So pray tell me why hasn't there been a mass exodus of young people under the shit show that was the last 14 years of Tory government? None of you seems to be able to answer that question.

I have an idea - DO NOT spend that money on fees! Problem solved. Honestly, the very basics of financial planning will tell you not to spend money that you can’t afford or for a service that isn’t worth that money.

It’s hard to feel sorry for people deciding what to do with inherited money - perhaps these brilliant, kids from these amazing schools could just go and earn some themselves?oh and
I understand how tax works, I pay a lot of it myself.

They lost a parent and were already settled in the school, thanks for the concern though.

Obviously everyone at state school would be happy to uproot kids with a couple of term's notice too? Wouldn't impact your kids either right?

*and they could afford it, before it became £10k pa more expensive.

It’s part of life. I know several kids who have changed schools between after year 7/8. They seem fine. One DCs new bezzie is a kid who’s moved here from another country - she’s seen fine too. I moved secondary schools when I was a teen as mum got a job in another town. I was absolutely fine, thrived in fact.
change is the only constant etc.

It's not just saving, it's also teaching people that there's no point being a net contributor. The people who take least and contribute most are just being hammered for everything. If you earn 40K + now you are called privileged and told you have broadest shoulders to pay more. The definition of wealth has drastically widened.
What's the point?

If you had also lost a parent the same year, I might say it was almost similar. Why would anyone do that to bereaved children?

Yet a Labour minister published a report a few years back saying how potentially damaging it was for kids to move schools, with mid-year moves being the most harmful.
I will try to find the report but it is frequently echoed in research

https://leftfootforward.org/2013/07/the-devastating-impact-of-moving-school-revealed/

Here is the report

https://www.thersa.org/reports/between-the-cracks

Written by a Labour MP who is now happy to see children having to move schools due his party's policy! So party over country/children's welfare.

Because the tax and employment situation wasn't as bad.as it is now thanks to Labour. And young people can see there's 5 years until the next election where things...can only get better!!!

Maybe the school can help you out? Speak to them now about bursaries. A bursary now would make the money last longer and save your DC changing schools.

Most schools are drastically reducing bursaries due to VAT. They don't have an endless pit of money and most surplus being taken up with NI increase, business rate increase and trying to mitigate VAT even a few %. That leaves little for fee assistance.
Which was an obvious result.

How would a young person's tax position have changed at all? How has their employment situation changed so much in the last six months? FFS someone has been drinking the Kool Aid.

Working short term in a non career type job is very different from permanently moving abroad. Do you think you could do the latter in Oz without even a visa?😂

It's not my family, thankfully but I think they are talking to them about partial funding for one of the DC for sixth form. They won't have anything left after that though.

How about really bright kids who are not being well served by an education that can't, or doesn't care to, stretch them in any way?

I've seen people say on here that bright students shouldn't expect that, state education is meant to take them to an average level and that's it.

But parents should be taxed for trying to fulfill their educational needs?

This is the worry, as the bursaries used to be given to low income families, now the schools are trying to keep more students who are now cut financially short at various stages in the cycle, so less is going out for "public" use IYKWIM

God these 😂 posts are irritating

Of course people on mobility schemes end up staying. I had a huge number of peers do exactly this and people end up in relationships and stay.

Huge number? Was that a very long time ago?

No Kool Aid. Strange way to argue.

Do you have a young person that you might be worried about? Or are they aiming for the public sector only? Have you looked at the repercussions of the rise in Employers NI and also the widening in workers rights.and potential cost to employers?
Do you think that will encourage employers to increase employment? Or decrease employment? Do you think that process may have already started?

Kool Aid yes but a Labour one it seems.

You do know the private sector is contracting due to Labour. Not everyone is public sector and keen on ever higher taxes as many older generation are on mn.

Exactly. Nobody’s personal tax or job security has changed in the last six months. It’s preposterous. In a way these posts are self defeating because they can’t be taken seriously.

Well your views seem very embittered and a bit hysterical.

I am not worried about any of my DC. They will all be absolutely fine. More hyperbole?