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To think men and women are not the same

102 replies

B0xes · 15/01/2025 08:08

And that you would never find 100 women willing to have sex with the same man on the same day.

And women seem to be under pressure to pretend this isn't true.

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MorrisZapp · 15/01/2025 14:14

JHound · 15/01/2025 13:57

They will pay for it by having sex with men in cars though.

And male sex workers who exclusively cater to women do exist.

Of course men pay other men for sex.

Women who pay men for sex are as statistically negligible as to be non existent. Women who pay drug addicted men for sex in cars literally don't exist.

JanglingJack · 15/01/2025 14:16

B0xes · 15/01/2025 08:24

But it's happened several times. There's no difficulty finding groups of men who all wants to have sex with a woman they don't know. There was Annabel Chong in the 90s and that girl the other month who didn't seem to have a great time but wants to go from 100 to 1000 in a day. I'm surprised you believe this is unusual for men.

But that's a man shagging one woman, not giving a shit about being sloppy 72's or whatever.

A man could not shag 100 women in a day - although viagra and one dip each, form a queue then probably.

I don't think I understand anyway 😂

Deadringer · 15/01/2025 14:17

Startinganew32 · 15/01/2025 09:32

Neither Lily nor Bonnie nor the majority of the only fans girls are traumatised or groomed and don’t appear to have MH issues either. People like to think that a woman would only do this stuff if they were desperate, drug addicted and had no choice but there’s a whole generation of girls who definitely would if it earned them money.

But the men didn't earn any money or fame, they did it for the sake of a quick, free fuck with an attractive woman. If you could create the same circumstances with a man 'regular' women wouldn't queue up to for it, they just wouldn't.

Deadringer · 15/01/2025 14:20

wonderblocks · 15/01/2025 13:48

Most men see women as objects.

Even your loving dh has in his past had a "slampiece" as I've heard men call women who they just were fucking.

Mine hasn't.

BySpryRubyBee · 15/01/2025 14:29

Deadringer · 15/01/2025 14:17

But the men didn't earn any money or fame, they did it for the sake of a quick, free fuck with an attractive woman. If you could create the same circumstances with a man 'regular' women wouldn't queue up to for it, they just wouldn't.

That’s the difference. I also don’t believe the hysterical teenage fans spoken about above would willingly stand in a queue for a minute-long, filmed sexual encounter with a pop star. The concept of that in itself is pretty problematic.

BlubieblubDutch · 15/01/2025 14:30

ImNotThereAmI · 15/01/2025 14:08

Well we agree to disagree. One direction were used as an example and I was running with that. Girls and women were screaming at them, like the Take That of my day. Screaming and fainting at the sight of those boys. This is infatuation and obsession and those girls believe they’re in love. So again, I think saying those girls/women would shag that guy from tht band, is not a good comparison to men lining up to shag this woman in the op’s example.

That is because the woman alluded to in OPs example is an Onlyfans model and not a random person. Her fans entered a raffle to have sex with her. I'm not saying men won't fuck random women, but the premise of this wasn't a 'random woman', but one they already had some form of parasocial connection with.

christmaslatte · 15/01/2025 14:44

People are being a bit overly literal here IMO.

I'm sure you could find 100 women who would be up for this if you searched far and wide, as there are a huge number of women in the world and some people are strange!

But that's not the point.

OP, may I suggest what you're really asking (i.e. common sense says!) if it would be dead easy to find 100 women to fuck the same man in a day, as easy as it would be to find 100 men?

And the answer to that is - of course not, it would be much harder to find women to do this. Most women wouldn't want to. Would most men? Possibly

Last time I looked, there were 13.5 million men locked up for sex crimes in England and Wales. But only 130 in women's prisons for sex crime (some of whom were actually men)

That's the scale of the difference.

That translates to something like one in every 2,500 men in our society currently locked for a sex crime, compared to 1 in every 230,000 women (or fewer if some of them are really men).

Given how rare it is for sex crimes to be reported and then again rare to actually be convicted, that's a lot of men guilty of sex crime walking around in society.

Depressing AF.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 15/01/2025 14:55

These are not your average men, these are low lifes that want to be famous and are attention seekers. I think if you cast the net wide enough of course you would find women that would do this. Think of all the women who audition for love island or Big brother, I'd say that's where to start the recruitment process.

NameChangedOfc · 15/01/2025 15:05

Happyinarcon · 15/01/2025 08:22

Yes there’s a lot of pressure to pretend the opposite of reality in pretty much every sphere of life at the moment.

Yes

SuzieNine · 15/01/2025 15:12

Startinganew32 · 15/01/2025 08:46

Nah. Queueing up for a two-minute fuck alongside 99 other blokes is as skeevy as hell, and women just wouldn't be that skeevy.

Surely the skeeviest one here is the woman wanting to shag 1000 men in a day for no reason other than fame?
Anyway it’s not possible for a man to have sex with that many women in a day but I’m pretty sure you’d find women who were up for it if they could.

She’s not doing it for the ‘fame’, she’s doing it for the very substantial amount of money that it will make her. Just like any other porn star.

Startinganew32 · 15/01/2025 15:14

SuzieNine · 15/01/2025 15:12

She’s not doing it for the ‘fame’, she’s doing it for the very substantial amount of money that it will make her. Just like any other porn star.

Yeah but the money comes from the fame. She tries her best to be controversial and get attention.

MorrisZapp · 15/01/2025 15:14

BySpryRubyBee · 15/01/2025 14:29

That’s the difference. I also don’t believe the hysterical teenage fans spoken about above would willingly stand in a queue for a minute-long, filmed sexual encounter with a pop star. The concept of that in itself is pretty problematic.

Of course they bloody wouldn't. This thread is farcical.

SuzieNine · 15/01/2025 15:16

@christmaslatte

”Last time I looked, there were 13.5 million men locked up for sex crimes in England and Wales. ”

Considering the entire prison estate only has 78,000 male places this seems unlikely.

steff13 · 15/01/2025 15:17

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 15/01/2025 08:10

Where have you seen women under pressure to pretend it isn't true? I don't feel any pressure

Agree, this has never been asked of me.

SuzieNine · 15/01/2025 15:18

Startinganew32 · 15/01/2025 15:14

Yeah but the money comes from the fame. She tries her best to be controversial and get attention.

The fame as you call it is purely marketing to drive traffic to her site. Same as any film star talking up their latest feature in the papers.

Startinganew32 · 15/01/2025 15:20

SuzieNine · 15/01/2025 15:18

The fame as you call it is purely marketing to drive traffic to her site. Same as any film star talking up their latest feature in the papers.

Okay fine. She’s doing it for money rather than fame then.

mollymazda · 15/01/2025 15:21

B0xes · 15/01/2025 08:08

And that you would never find 100 women willing to have sex with the same man on the same day.

And women seem to be under pressure to pretend this isn't true.

im not sure i understand.. but if there is a man out there willing to be shagged by 100 women in 1 day, then thats impressive especially if he can keep it up all day!!

i'm assuming this is referring to the recent new storys (i think, i may have dreamed it) where for his wife/partners 40th birthday he arranged for 100 men to shag her?

ofcourse men and woman are different..

Startinganew32 · 15/01/2025 15:28

mollymazda · 15/01/2025 15:21

im not sure i understand.. but if there is a man out there willing to be shagged by 100 women in 1 day, then thats impressive especially if he can keep it up all day!!

i'm assuming this is referring to the recent new storys (i think, i may have dreamed it) where for his wife/partners 40th birthday he arranged for 100 men to shag her?

ofcourse men and woman are different..

I think it’s referring to the only fans stars Lily Phillips and Bonnie Blue. Lily recently had sex with 100 men in a day and Bonnie reckons she’s just done 1000+ and Lily is also going to attempt this shortly.

mollymazda · 15/01/2025 15:32

Startinganew32 · 15/01/2025 15:28

I think it’s referring to the only fans stars Lily Phillips and Bonnie Blue. Lily recently had sex with 100 men in a day and Bonnie reckons she’s just done 1000+ and Lily is also going to attempt this shortly.

oh delightful!

Winterskyfall · 15/01/2025 15:41

I certainly don't feel any pressure to say that I think this vile behaviour is in anyway acceptable. I also don't believe any decent man would think it's acceptable either. I think men and women are different, but I also think the men who lined up are disgusting and are not representative of all men. Men who use sex workers are foul creatures.

B0xes · 15/01/2025 15:52

Winterskyfall · 15/01/2025 15:41

I certainly don't feel any pressure to say that I think this vile behaviour is in anyway acceptable. I also don't believe any decent man would think it's acceptable either. I think men and women are different, but I also think the men who lined up are disgusting and are not representative of all men. Men who use sex workers are foul creatures.

They are not representative of all men. No. But surely we need to acknowledge that there is something inherently different in the male psyche that compels them to do these things in a staggeringly higher proportion than women. To take a dreadful example, how many men did Dominic Pelicot manage to recruit, in only a 20 mile radius, to commit such a serious sex crime. Even in the most densely populated area, I think you'd have a hard time finding one woman who wants to use an unconscious male for her own gratification. I know people will make spurious claims to the obvious flaws regarding the mechanics of this, but they are deliberately ignoring the point.

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NotTerfNorCis · 15/01/2025 16:05

What I'm finding interesting is the number of right wingers on social media who're criticising the woman for her lack of morals and extending that criticism to all women - we're all immoral nowadays apparently. Total lack of shame. But they've got nothing to say about the men.

ImNotThereAmI · 15/01/2025 16:22

NotTerfNorCis · 15/01/2025 16:05

What I'm finding interesting is the number of right wingers on social media who're criticising the woman for her lack of morals and extending that criticism to all women - we're all immoral nowadays apparently. Total lack of shame. But they've got nothing to say about the men.

Edited

Always the woman’s fault! Depressing

JHound · 16/01/2025 15:01

MorrisZapp · 15/01/2025 14:14

Of course men pay other men for sex.

Women who pay men for sex are as statistically negligible as to be non existent. Women who pay drug addicted men for sex in cars literally don't exist.

If they exist they cannot be non-existent.

Yes women won’t pay for drug addicted men but neither would most men.

To be clear I have not denied OPs premise. I agree with it but only as far as average differences go. Individuals are different and I definitely think that you could find 100 women willing to have sex with the same man in the same day. There 4bn women on the planet. No way are all 4bn identical.

JHound · 16/01/2025 15:02

NotTerfNorCis · 15/01/2025 16:05

What I'm finding interesting is the number of right wingers on social media who're criticising the woman for her lack of morals and extending that criticism to all women - we're all immoral nowadays apparently. Total lack of shame. But they've got nothing to say about the men.

Edited

Because they are misogynists. That’s why. And ir is telling they have more to say about promiscuous women than actual abusive men.