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To think men and women are not the same

102 replies

B0xes · 15/01/2025 08:08

And that you would never find 100 women willing to have sex with the same man on the same day.

And women seem to be under pressure to pretend this isn't true.

OP posts:
Polkadotbabushka · 15/01/2025 12:40

Garlicnorth · 15/01/2025 08:24

It's about the recent spate of young women having sex with ridiculous numbers of men for publicity and pay. The pressure OP refers to isn't about joining a queue to shag some man with a permanent erection, it's pressure to admit "women would do it too if the sexes were reversed".

Nah. Queueing up for a two-minute fuck alongside 99 other blokes is as skeevy as hell, and women just wouldn't be that skeevy.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/lily-phillips-devastating-worry-future-34433469

This woman is just gross

MermaidEyes · 15/01/2025 12:45

I think the difference is, women would do it if the man was hot (think rock star/actor types). Men will do it with any woman who has a choice of holes.

JHound · 15/01/2025 12:47

I also think some of these men did it to be part of a challenge (assuming it even happened - I am not convinced).

I remember at uni a girl in my halls, after a party in the bar - put out an invite for any of the men who had attended to have sex with her that evening. I recall only three took her up on it.

Garlicnorth · 15/01/2025 12:51

Polkadotbabushka · 15/01/2025 12:40

This woman is just gross

OK, but the men??!
She was doing it for money. They weren't. They just lined up to stick their dicks in her, one after the other. They all agreed to be filmed and signed away any rights.

To quote a comment on one of the news articles: men will fuck a corpse, they didn't even care if she was breathing.

This is definitely not a "women do it too" situation!

Polkadotbabushka · 15/01/2025 13:08

Garlicnorth · 15/01/2025 12:51

OK, but the men??!
She was doing it for money. They weren't. They just lined up to stick their dicks in her, one after the other. They all agreed to be filmed and signed away any rights.

To quote a comment on one of the news articles: men will fuck a corpse, they didn't even care if she was breathing.

This is definitely not a "women do it too" situation!

Oh they’re gross too! I don’t get this at all… they clearly have no respect for themselves and how can she not feel totally disgusting and violated having that much sex?! Eurgh!!

ImNotThereAmI · 15/01/2025 13:10

Startinganew32 · 15/01/2025 12:28

If all women needed an emotional connection to have sex there wouldn’t be so many one night stands. Loads of women don’t give a shit about emotions during sex.
If it was Louis from One Direction offering to go down on 100 women in a day, I can guarantee you’d have a shit ton of volunteers.

I think that IS an example of women needing an emotional connection. Those women who would say yes to the guy from one directional, would do it because they’ve had a crush or “been in love” or obsessed with him for years. Young women get like that about pop stars. That’s not a good comparison for the example where 100 men shagged a women they’ve never seen or met before

MorrisZapp · 15/01/2025 13:14

Of course men and women are completely different when it comes to sex. How many men pay for their drug habit by having sex with women in cars? I'm going to guess literally none.

SallyWD · 15/01/2025 13:47

I think women are less likely to want to do this than men, and less likely to see it as a turn on. However, I still think you could find 100 women or 1000 women to do it.

wonderblocks · 15/01/2025 13:48

Most men see women as objects.

Even your loving dh has in his past had a "slampiece" as I've heard men call women who they just were fucking.

JHound · 15/01/2025 13:56

ImNotThereAmI · 15/01/2025 13:10

I think that IS an example of women needing an emotional connection. Those women who would say yes to the guy from one directional, would do it because they’ve had a crush or “been in love” or obsessed with him for years. Young women get like that about pop stars. That’s not a good comparison for the example where 100 men shagged a women they’ve never seen or met before

Liking the way somebody looks is not “an emotional connection.”

Nor does it mean you have “had a crush on them for years”.

where 100 men shagged a women they’ve never seen or met before

Loads of women shag a man they had not previously met. We also don’t know this alleged 100 had never seen phillips do we?

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 15/01/2025 13:56

B0xes · 15/01/2025 08:24

But it's happened several times. There's no difficulty finding groups of men who all wants to have sex with a woman they don't know. There was Annabel Chong in the 90s and that girl the other month who didn't seem to have a great time but wants to go from 100 to 1000 in a day. I'm surprised you believe this is unusual for men.

2 women having sex with 100+ men in a day over thirty years out of tens of billions of men (2.7bn x 30yrs =61.4bn men) does make it unusual for men too. So unusual that it is microscopic.

JHound · 15/01/2025 13:57

MorrisZapp · 15/01/2025 13:14

Of course men and women are completely different when it comes to sex. How many men pay for their drug habit by having sex with women in cars? I'm going to guess literally none.

They will pay for it by having sex with men in cars though.

And male sex workers who exclusively cater to women do exist.

CantHoldMeDown · 15/01/2025 13:58

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JHound · 15/01/2025 13:58

wonderblocks · 15/01/2025 13:48

Most men see women as objects.

Even your loving dh has in his past had a "slampiece" as I've heard men call women who they just were fucking.

That’s so mindblowingly misogynistic.

Women will have fuckbuddies but will never refer to them in a derogatory way

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 15/01/2025 14:00

I agree that there would be 100 or 1000 women willing to have sex with the same man in a day (if it were physically possible).

There is nothing normal or usual about anyone wanting to have sex with 100 or 1000 men/women in one day.

TrolleySign · 15/01/2025 14:02

I mean I don't think any man could do that but surely it would depend on the man - if someone famous offered it, I bet women would.

There's billions of women (and men) from all different walks of life.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 15/01/2025 14:02

JHound · 15/01/2025 13:58

That’s so mindblowingly misogynistic.

Women will have fuckbuddies but will never refer to them in a derogatory way

”fuck Buddy” isn’t derogatory?!
Don’t forget boytoy, jackhammer and the like.

ImNotThereAmI · 15/01/2025 14:03

JHound · 15/01/2025 13:56

Liking the way somebody looks is not “an emotional connection.”

Nor does it mean you have “had a crush on them for years”.

where 100 men shagged a women they’ve never seen or met before

Loads of women shag a man they had not previously met. We also don’t know this alleged 100 had never seen phillips do we?

My point was that those young women / girls who are infatuated with pop stars DO feel they have an emotional connection with them. I stand by my point that it’s therefore not a god comparison

JHound · 15/01/2025 14:04

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 15/01/2025 14:02

”fuck Buddy” isn’t derogatory?!
Don’t forget boytoy, jackhammer and the like.

No it’s not.

Nor are “boytoy” and jackhammer is derogotary but it’s meant to be as it does not refer to the man, but the way a man has sex that is totally dismissive of his female partner’s pleasure.

JHound · 15/01/2025 14:05

ImNotThereAmI · 15/01/2025 14:03

My point was that those young women / girls who are infatuated with pop stars DO feel they have an emotional connection with them. I stand by my point that it’s therefore not a god comparison

But fancying somebody does not mean you are infatuated with them.

Liking the way somebody looks is just that. It’s not indicative of an emotional connection.

JHound · 15/01/2025 14:06

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

Do people really believe she had sex with 1000 men? I don’t.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 15/01/2025 14:07

JHound · 15/01/2025 14:04

No it’s not.

Nor are “boytoy” and jackhammer is derogotary but it’s meant to be as it does not refer to the man, but the way a man has sex that is totally dismissive of his female partner’s pleasure.

Derogatory is subjective imho. I don’t agree that women never use derogatory terms to describe their “fuckbuddies”.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 15/01/2025 14:07

JHound · 15/01/2025 14:05

But fancying somebody does not mean you are infatuated with them.

Liking the way somebody looks is just that. It’s not indicative of an emotional connection.

Agree with you here! Sex doesn’t require an emotional connection.

ImNotThereAmI · 15/01/2025 14:08

JHound · 15/01/2025 14:05

But fancying somebody does not mean you are infatuated with them.

Liking the way somebody looks is just that. It’s not indicative of an emotional connection.

Well we agree to disagree. One direction were used as an example and I was running with that. Girls and women were screaming at them, like the Take That of my day. Screaming and fainting at the sight of those boys. This is infatuation and obsession and those girls believe they’re in love. So again, I think saying those girls/women would shag that guy from tht band, is not a good comparison to men lining up to shag this woman in the op’s example.

MidnightMeltdown · 15/01/2025 14:10

Of course men and women are not the same when it comes to sex.

Research has repeatedly shown that women are much less likely to want or enjoy a one night stand, and they are much more likely to regret it and suffer emotional consequences.

However, I think that there is a lot of pressure a younger women to 'do it like a man' - because that's feminism and equality isn't it 🙄

Lots of women complain that men on OLD are only looking for sex these days, but you can't really blame them. This is the culture that we've created.