Parking - relatives neighbour left note on my car r

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It's a late night parking thread! AIBU?

My sister has recently moved to a new area. She lives in a cul de sac with room for 1 car on her drive. I have visited maybe 2-3 times since she's moved in and parked on the street outside apposite the cul de sac. I visited this evening and when I returned to my car found a note from her neighbour asking me not to park outside their house. No please/thank you, no explanation, just don't park outside our house basically, very blunt. This is a public road FYI. They do not have a driveway, but they do have a double garage a bit further up the road (at the back of their garden I guess). I have attached pictures.

I don't want to cause problems for anyone, especially my sister but there is room for maybe 3-4 cars along that road so surely they're not asking every single person who doesn't live there to move their car?! What do you all think? Crazy people?

Completely off topic @mangoes1 ... but is the boob that was actually an elbow from a previous thread that the op was complaining about an advertising email with a photo of a boob? I read it but not the outcome.

Yanbu

Next time you park there leave a note on your own car saying "It is legal for any taxed vehicle to occupy any legal parking space on any public road. Nobody owns this road, and nobody has any right to object to anyone parking here" (don't post it through a door even if you are 99% sure who wrote the note you had before).

I would consider, if you can be arsed, acquiring a micro camera (various available for £20 ish on amazon) and leave it running in the car, because I do know of one such situation where the territorial neighbour who thought they owned the road stuck a penknife into a tyre in revenge, but most people are not that psychotic so it's ok not to bother.

But then you’re giving into bully tactics, why should a bully dictate their own made up rules.

i completely disagree and would say life is too short to give into a bully! I would certainly be parking there and asking for the legal documentation before I even gave moving a second thought.

Don’t allow people to lie and bully you.

Why didn't you park outside the house you were visiting. People do get annoyed when folk park outside their house when visiting folk who have a driveway and space outside their own house. It's cheeky.

What is the problem? You don't gain more rights to an available, legal, public space just because you use it every day.

It's very straightforward: if you want to reserve a piece of land for only you (or nobody) to park on, you buy that land and do whatever you (legally) want with it. If you don't want to buy it, or if it isn't for sale, those privileges remain with the actual owner.

In this case, the council is the owner - and they have chosen to allow it to be used on a standard, unrestricted basis by any member of the public with a road-legal vehicle, on a first-come-first-served basis.

How phenomenally arrogant to think you can tell other people what they can do with their own land. I think I can guess how he would probably respond if anybody tried to tell him how to use his land.

My partner put a note on a camper van that parked outside our house but it advised the driver to park so that other cars could also park. His parking didn't leave enough room for a car to park in front of it or behind because of a dropped kerb.

There is a grassed area between the houses and the parking bay so the house numbers aren't particularly obvious when you first pull in.

Does your sister have a DP or DH? Usually these self appointed street parking monitors will pick more on a lone female and my DD had this sort of thing on a street she moved into on separation. Telling her where she could put her bins, all sorts of nonsense about 'how we do it along here' mainly from a couple across the road who even had their own 'No Parking' sign attached to their front wall which was a perfectly legal parking space
(I ALWAYS parked there when visiting and they'd come out shouting but l ignored)
Then she met her now DH (a big 6ft burly fella as it happens) and when he parked there they never came out.
When he moved in never heard a peep again. Just bullies and cowards basically.

It's a bit like this on my street except nearly all have to park on the road as we're 2 car households with x 1 off road parking.
Now and then the space immediately outside my house gets used and unless it's for ages I'm not overly bothered as it's not mine.

My neighbours are a PITA. So they've a dropped curb outside their house but you can't drive into anywhere it's just alongside their fence but legally it is their space on the road. They guard that spot with their car all the time.

However they've only 1 car so don't use their drive! Thus adding to the congestion to the on street parking! Why they don't park on drive then if anyone is in their spot on the odd occasion they need it they ask them to move God only knows. Or let a 3 car households use it unless they need it.
Pisses me off more than someone parking outside my house

But why on earth is it supposedly cheeky?! Somebody else (the council) owns the land and has given OP (and any other driver) the right to park on their land.

What IS cheeky is the neighbour trying to dictate what somebody else does with their land, when it has absolutely nothing to do with him, except it happens to be near to his own land.

Just like I couldn't order people not to sit on the bench in the public park that's virtually on my doorstep.

I'm completely the opposite - I choose to make my own happiness in life. Why should I let someone else's 'problem' become my problem as well when there is a simple solution. That's the way I look at it. You either accept and find peace with an issue, or do something about it. I choose to accept and find peace.

i choose to not let people lie and walk all over me, I find I’m perfectly happy with knowing I’m worth it.

i am also at total peace with that.

far more than some friends who say “it’s worth it for a quiet life”, as they bend over backwards to appease any bully in their lives.

I assume it's not an unadopted (private) road?

I'd be interested to see what happened if that was legally challenged.

Surely, if there's no drive that can be accessed, they don't have the right to a public space, just because it happens to have a dropped kerb left over from a previous use of the property.

The idea of granting people the right to clear access of their own parking space is to get parked cars off the public road and make it flow better for everybody; not to guarantee somebody exclusive use of that piece of public road in perpetuity!

How is that relevant?

It's amazing how many people would be bullied off a public road just to keep the peace with an idiot.
Anyone requiring you not to park 'near their house', is never going to be a good neighbour, so keep parking (legally) where you like.

I'd keep the note, add a message about who can park on a public road and put it back on your windscreen when you next visit your sister.

Just ignore and keep parking there. The road doesn’t belong to them and you have as much right to park there as they do.

If they had written a nice polite note explaining how it caused them difficulties you parking there, then I’d be more inclined to listen. But a rude blunt note - ignore.

I had this when I used to live in a house on a public road. It was in a set of 4 terraced houses as back to backs, and I lived in one of them at the back. I got the occaisonal note from neighbours I presumed living at the front telling me where they would like me to park, I just ignored them, as it was a public road with no residential parking restrictions and I lived there.

Well, if you weren't causing an obstruction they are obviously batshit people who think the road belongs to them as well. I would imagine they have form for being like this, and it will probably come to light what they are really like as your sister gets to know other people living in her road.

Are you able to park across the bottom of your sister's driveway instead? If not, is there anywhere you could park closer to your sister's house?

People are weird. Years ago, I parked by my children's school. Perfectly legally, not causing an obstruction or blocking driveways etc. I was just about to get the pram out of my boot, when a car pulled up behind me and parked a couple of inches off my rear bumper. A stupid old witch woman got out the car, and I asked her very politely if she could move her car back a little bit so that I could get the pram out of my boot.

She said "That's my house and I live there"

I replied "I know you live there. I have asked you very politely to move your car back so that I can get my baby's pram out of my boot"

She glared at me, huffed and puffed, and moved her car back. When she got out I said "Thank you" - and she gave me daggers again and went into the house. Funnily enough, she never parked that close again........

Please let us know how you get on OP!

then its very strange if thats your position there, seems no dropped curb etc

If it was impacting the health or wellbeing or me of a loved one then obviously I would choose to do something about it. But I'm not going to allow myself to get all worked up over a car parking space. I've got a lot more important things to focus my energies on.

Cheeky? What’s cheeky about it? The council own the road, not the homeowner.

I would also put a note (with theirs attached) reminding them it is a public road, your car is taxed and insured and you are simply a visitor. I would also point out I have front and rear cameras (I do, but they don't work when the engine is off). I would also suggest that they report your car to the police if they feel you are breaking the law.

I wouldn't say I will or won't park there again, or accuse them of doing anything untoward, just let them know the reality of the situation.

PS - yes crazy people.

This is the thing. Anyone with that mentality is already not a reasonable person. So no requirement to pay attention to their wants. These people can never be appeased by fair treatment, they always want extra. Better to nip it in the bud straight away.