Do you expect other women to agree with you when you talk about the plight of women ?

[amijust]

And what do you think about the ones that just stay silent ? Every time it comes up ?

Just wondering, as I've noticed someone in my life is always entirely silent when these convos come up.

How would you feel about someone like that ?

A couple of examples that have come up :

• mental load being all on the woman a lot.

• housework being a woman's problem a lot to the time.

• at work, taking maternity leave and having kids often hurts a woman's career.

• working from home, isn't good for women as a whole because it means a lot to women pick up even more housework and tend to work from home more to ferry kids around, this in turn hurts their careers etc.

• being the default parent.

• workplaces not being set up for parents in general.

• women's health problems being largely ignored. Women being told to suck up extreme period pain for example.

• when women show emotion, being branded as hysterical etc etc

These are just some conversations that have come up around another woman I know ( no kids yet ). Other women have agreed / disagreed or engaged on the topics. This person stays entirely silent.

Same. I completely stay away from those “husband” conversations. I love DH/family life etc but there is so much more to talk about.

sadly, no. I don't expect it. I'd like to be able to, but we're just not there yet.

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · Today 15:40
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sadly, no. I don't expect it. I'd like to be able to, but we're just not there yet.

Why sadly? Women are individuals with minds of their own. Why would you expect individuals to agree because they happen to have sex in common?

Do you know what I think sucks about being a woman, which men seem to escape entirely? When people believe you have an obligation to churn out platitudes in response to their anecdotes and complaints, even in a group setting when others have already answered, else risk not being seen as "a decent person". When even the hint of independent thought is considered suspect.

Not a decent person?!

Most, or possibly all, of your complaints don't apply to her. Many people feel uncomfortable listening to another person ritually complaining about perceived injustices, whether or not they agree. Not everyone will just take the speaker's word as gospel - they might quietly wonder what the other side of the story is, before they rush in to condemn.

Instead of keeping notes on how enthusiastically your companions are agreeing, why not ask yourself whether you are, in fact, boring them, read the room, and change the record?