HELP! [Child rape gangs in Bradford]

[bradfordisdamned]

I know this is a horrible subject.

This news article from today shows how much it's being ignored here

After the death of Star Hobson, Bradford was stripped of its child protective services because it was completely unfit.

It continues to be an absolute disaster. I feel that this nightmare is being ignored because Bradford just so happens to be the city of culture for 2025. It's being ignored for many more reasons than that of course, but this is completely and utterly unacceptable. I think officials just don't want to be accused of racism and our children continue to suffer because of it.

Can you please help me make some noise with this? I am going to be writing to my MP, but this needs more attention. We need to put pressure on prominent people to get a public enquiry underway. Rejecting it is despicable. They just don't want to admit we have a major problem.

I am pasting the article here because unfortunately the newspaper site can be riddled with ads that sometimes make it unusable, but I didn't want to ask for Mumsnet help without providing sources.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable to want this enquiry to go ahead. I think Mumsnet will agree with me. Thank you in advance.

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Officials reject new calls for public inquiry on child abuse

A PUBLIC inquiry examining child sexual abuse in the Bradford area is "unlikely to provide us with any new learning", according to the district's safeguarding partnership.
In the House of Commons on Monday, Robbie Moore, Tory MP for Keighley and Ilkley, said "rape gangs and child grooming" have "haunted" the district "for decades" - and he again accused local leaders of refusing to launch an inquiry.

He added that he feared the scale of child sexual abuse and exploitation across the Bradford district would "dwarf that of Rotherham".

In 2014, a report by Professor Alexis Jay described how more than 1,400 children were sexually exploited by gangs of mainly Asian males in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, between 1997 and 2013.

Phillipa Hubbard, of the Bradford District Safeguarding Children Partnership, responded to Mr Moore's remarks by saying: "The national Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, which was published in October 2022 and to which Bradford contributed, has made it very clear that this is a national issue.

"Like many local authorities up and down the country, we know that agencies in our district have made mistakes in the past.
"This is why we commissioned an independent review into child sexual exploitation which was published in 2021 so that all the agencies in our district who work with children can implement the learning from past cases.

"The review was extremely detailed and thorough, and was written by an independent author. It looked in-depth at local and national learning and best practice.
"In addition to the review, our multi-agency safeguarding team undergoes regular independent scrutiny from Ofsted and the partnership also publishes an annual report, which anyone can read and which is open to public scrutiny.

"All the local agencies who are working in our district to keep children safe are committed to continued development and improvement.
"The view of our partnership remains that a public inquiry would cost a huge amount of money, use precious officer time and is unlikely to provide us with any new learning that would better-protect children from being abused."

In response, Mr Moore said: "This is a complete and utter dereliction of duty.
"The Council says its 2021 review was 'detailed', but it focused on just five children.
"Meanwhile, the Rotherham inquiry focused on the experiences of over 1,400 children.
"The idea that a Bradford inquiry would bring about no new information is an outright falsehood - and I am completely shocked by these comments.

Again you don't know what you're taking about. A few celebrities like Saville are no comparison to thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands) of poor vulnerable little girls being gang raped and sexually tortured by racists. You don't know because it hasn't been detailed apart from by Elon Musk.

Report the posts and let the mods handle it. They’ve already deleted the vile one at the top of the page. (Well, previous page now.)

Second edit: Nevermind, they’ve been banned. Well done, mods!

As a mother of an autistic daughter I'd like to point out that many of these girls in children's homes will be neurodiverse. They're easier to manipulate and again, bottom of the pile for society.

Yes and when other any ethnic group riots its all lets find out why eg scarman enquiry from the 80s rather than starmers dismal insults. That's partly why he's so hated two tier Kier. I hate him and I'm a middle class southerner but then I have empathy unlike some.

Savile wasn't the only BBC celebrity caught up in sex abuse scandals, but he was probably one of the most prolific pedophiles in this country. So you should probably be far less fucking dismissive.

Name changed I grew up in Bradford. I'm Sikh Punjabi, every week in our Gurdwara (in the 80, 90 and 00s) we would have community leaders coming to talk to us about the dangers of men in the Pakistani community, trying to groom Sikh girls. We would be told about girls that had gone missing.

I remember getting so much hassle being called a Sikhni, being told we were easy, I remember going into a shop and the shopkeeper trying to put his hand down my top. I got hassle from his friend all the time too.

It was good we were warned in the Gurdwaras and also our men knew so would look out for us.

One of my white friends at school was regularly abused by her 'boyfriend' she would come in bruises - wearing polo necks. Turns out it was a gang of Pakistani drug dealers operating in the area (this is 1994). So I'm tell you now this has been going on decades.

But you know who are the 'thread police'? MN. Who I see agree with most of us here that you're deliberately trolling women who have been sexually abused, hence why they've deleted at least one of your posts.. 😜🤣

That is also bollocks. Have you read the Manchester Arena bombing enquiry? The security guards specifically didn't challenge the Asian bomber with a ruck sack as they were scared of being called racist/islamaphobic. So many heads in the sand.

Thank you so much. I am so angry at some of the women arguing against me my regional accent is showing in my typed speech and I am letting myself get derailed.

If people want to start a thread about systemic abuse in the Catholic Church or any other group of people - start one, give your evidence and witness statements and I will support you if you was a victim and or witnessed any of those crimes.

The what aboutary on this thread is disgustingly disingenuous and is absolutely for political gain or some kind of sick victim blaming. Shame on anyone who has tried to change this thread into anything that it should of been (myself included).

A discussion on how we can stop the mass rape of young girls by Muslim south Asian decent men, whether you like to admit it or not or compare it with anything else. It is happening right now, so how do we stop it? We tell our stories, people listen and then demand action from the so called people in charge.

Nope the harm was many thousands of times less, stop deflecting ffs.

I am so sorry. Thank you for sharing with us. 😔

Are you suggesting that if you don't hate Starmer you don't have empathy? Mind you, I've no time for terms like "two tier" or people who use them, so I don't know why I'm bothering to ask you.

Private security guards are not the police or a publicly funded authority with a duty to act regardless of accusations of bias/racism. They will be private sector workers who have had "sensitivity" training about not racially profiling.

Yes agree, but that isn’t my point.

My point is that this drama was a sanitised version of what was happening to the victims.

And that there had to be a white northern woman being racist in it because that is how we are perceived.

Exactly - I thought I was losing my mind that this person was still allowed to post!

Where did you get that from??

There is no law to say an Asian man cannot wear a backpack.

A member of the public thought he was acting suspiciously and reported it to the security guard by that time he had already gone into hiding.

The security guard went and told the other security guard who tried several times to radio it through but couldn’t and then within a matter of minutes he came out of hiding and detonated the bomb.

It wasn’t that they didn’t want to appear racist else they wouldn’t have tried several times to report it and find him.

Regardless of who they were employed by, the point remains, no? Awful things have happened, and it's been found that opportunities have been missed because people have been concerned about being accused of racism. Police and Social workers have spoken about their fears in relation to the grooming gangs. I think the post you're responding to was about someone denying this ever happens.

Don’t derail the thread people!! This is about sexual abuse victims not the Manchester bombings

The only guy who mentioned it was an 18yo security guard who said he was concerned but didn’t want to appear racist.

Basically a kid at his first proper job who is of course not going to want to get things wrong.

It was still reported and tried to be radioed through several times z

I'm not sure where you got that from?

He was still reported.
If worrying about race was such a big issue, then he would have never been reported, especially with several attempts.

This isn't about the Manchester bombing please stop.

I grew up in one of the northern towns where the rape and sexual abuse of white, working class girls by some Pakistani Muslim men has taken place. I'm in my early 50s now, so I'm talking about the mid to late 1980s, when friends of mine had older Asian 'boyfriends.' A group of us girls used to meet up and go to a particular video shop, where one girl's boyfriend worked. He and his mates (early 20s to early 30s) used to come and chat us up, want to take us for rides in their cars, give us cigarettes and alcohol and invite us to 'parties.' I was flattered by the attention, but my gut feeling told me I didn't want to risk being alone with these men. Some of my friends did go with them on joyrides and to parties and some had relationships with them. At the time I didn't think much of it, but now I shudder at the fact I too could have been abused. They were adult men and we were 14.

I also want to thank MNHQ, this must be a very hard thread to moderate, but it’s so important that stories that have been shared are actually shared and not censored. I don’t know if that poster was banned, but happy they can’t derail the thread anymore.

I also want to thank my fellow MN pals (the ones who are genuine posters) it’s a very emotive subject and decisive - but please please listen to us “victims” (I say that with brackets because I was really lucky to not being taken off the streets) this is actually happening, it’s real, the court documents are real. To suggest people like myself and others who have shared stories (sanitised stories so we don’t get our stories deleted) are liars etc is really distasteful and is not what the little girls going through this need right now. We should be angry as women, angry as parents and angry because the level of depravity these girls are facing.

I believe there has been a systematic injustice that has caused some of the most vulnerable girls to be abused by the most violent rape gangs, the people in charge of keeping these girls safe are complicit and know exactly what is going on, in recent past they where refered to as “p@ki” slags, like they gave consent aged 12 to violent rapes and beatings. They are as bad as the men who committed these crimes and they need investigating.

You are right sorry.

I was just responding to a poster who said that the police don’t act out of fear of being labelled racist.

When we all know that that is absolute BS.

The police as a whole are known for racism and misogyny.

Girls who are poor or a ‘nuisance’ just happen to be further down on their list of priorities.