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Male staff in nursery’s

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Itsoneofthose · 07/01/2025 21:58

Ok, hear me out.. I know this is controversial but today I was shown around a nursery for the first time. I’m dreading leaving my little one, only because I’ll miss her and worry about her. I don’t think my worry is out of proportion or anything like that though. But today I saw two male nursery nurses. Now, I know there are many men who are great with kids, and not all men are a threat to children (obviously) and women can also potentially pose a threat to children but I just don’t know how I feel about male nursery staff. Hmmm. I know I’ll be shot down in flames for this. Nursery’s are well regulated etc etc. I just can’t help feeling a bit uneasy about the whole thing. Has anyone else experienced these thoughts? AIBU

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Pleasesendhelp8 · 07/01/2025 23:09

Itsoneofthose · 07/01/2025 22:52

I absolutely commend your attitude towards this. Many people commenting are acting mortally offended even though what I have asked is perfectly reasonable. Sexual abuse is extremely common and I think people are still naive to it. Children must be protected at every cost and people need to be vigilant. It’s unfortunate but true and the risk is too great. People are so naive they really are. I’m sorry you experienced that but I wish more mothers had the same attitude and wisdom
as you.

This! I can’t believe some of the comments on here. I wouldn’t want to take any risks with my dc as unfortunately some of us know what the real world is like. Would rather be safe than sorry! Especially at such a young age when they are not quite talking yet.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 07/01/2025 23:10

Itsoneofthose · 07/01/2025 22:34

Thank you for posting. I am being shot down here. Like you said, I wasn’t suggesting for a second that all men are heinous pedophiles. I was just opening up the question, as like you, I just feel slightly uneasy- the personal care especially. It’s really touched a nerve with many Mumsnetters it seems.

But why do you feel uneasy, you haven’t answered that. What exactly is it about a man working with children that makes you worried. Until you dig through that (Google the 5 whys, it’s a very useful technique) we can’t really comment.

On the face of what you’ve said though I think you’re being unreasonable. It is good for kids to have carers of both sexes and should help combat unconscious bias and sexism - which may be what you have.

fiftiesmum · 07/01/2025 23:10

Hellohelga · 07/01/2025 23:05

However if that were the main reason for it the NHS would insist on a chaperone every time. Or the presence of the chaperone or not would be the choice of the GP. If the patient says no thanks to a chaperone the GP is unprotected, and the NHS seems ok with that.

I know a few male hospital doctors who insist on a chaperone to examine a female patient

starsinthedarksky · 07/01/2025 23:10

m00ngirl · 07/01/2025 23:08

Just to add I'm finding the posts from people who had positive experiences with male nursery workers v helpful and hopeful/reassuring, and also the posts from nursery workers/managers about safeguarding procedures like accompaniment during changing - I didn't know about that. That's helpful to know. I hope it's universal.

So glad to read this!

If anyone is ever worried, just ask your setting for their safeguarding procudures and talk to the staff! They’ll be more than happy to talk to you about it.

BiblicalArk · 07/01/2025 23:11

Nursery's just like schools need a gender balance .

Candy24 · 07/01/2025 23:11

Some men are more nurturing then women and a hell of a lot more fun.lol

Chonk · 07/01/2025 23:11

fiftiesmum · 07/01/2025 23:04

Some woman will make allegations and it only takes one to ruin a very good hcp' s career and life

I understand that, but if that PP has no intention of making a false allegation, why does she feel the male GP needs one when caring for her?

MMXXV · 07/01/2025 23:11

BobbyBiscuits · 07/01/2025 23:09

If you think the nursery is employing paedophiles or child sex abusers then obviously you should report them to the council and Ofsted.
What makes you think that all men are a danger to kids? Do you think your partner will sexually molest his/your kids? What about your dad, or brother?
I'm sorry. I've been raped and abused horribly by men but I would trust a nursery to employ staff that were not dangerous to young kids.

OP isn’t saying all men are a danger. Why are people making things up?

Itsoneofthose · 07/01/2025 23:11

ariaknox · 07/01/2025 22:22

OP i just viewed a nursery with male staff for my daughter
And ive decided against it
Not only for the reason that they informed me that the men will be helping my daughter go to the toilet and i could not request only a female help her but others that i wont mention
I dont mind having a male take care of her at all however she still needs help going to the toilet and already makes me turn around when shes using the toilet (she needs me to help her on and off the toilet, wipe and pull up her clothes correctly) and having any stranger help my child in the bathroom feels weird man or woman but i knew my daughter would not feel comfortable and to be honest neither do i

I felt torn and guilty for thinking and feeling like this but after speaking to some friends and other parents ive decided that at the end of the day its my job to ensure my child is protected and safe and comfortable
As much as i can in this day and age

Do what you and your child will be comfortable with at the end of the day

Thank goodness. Someone who talks sense. Good for you for taking a stand, going with your gut, and not being oppressed by the militantly blue sky thinking, naive PC brigade. Doing what’s right for your child. I like men, and have many good men in my family and yet at 39 years of age would not appreciate personal care by a man. It’s really quite simple.

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HereForTheAnimals · 07/01/2025 23:12

Hopefully your child won't become unwell, but if they do, what about the male paediatric doctors? Are you going to allow them to treat your child?

Topsyturvy78 · 07/01/2025 23:12

Smellskindafunky · 07/01/2025 22:14

Similar in care homes as well. Most carers are female but you do get a few males and of course you can express a preference for female only for personal care. There's also something ick-worthy about a 25 year old bloke wiping your grandma's arse after a toilet trip. Don't ask me why, it's just kinda wrong.

I'm sure most men would also feel more comfortable having a male wiping his arse than a woman.

Itsoneofthose · 07/01/2025 23:13

MrsSunshine2b · 07/01/2025 23:03

Are you equally baffled as to why women work in nurseries? Or is childcare a "woman's role"? Do you take the same stance towards women working in engineering or construction?

You’re going off at a tangent. Hi

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BornSandyDevotional · 07/01/2025 23:13

Pleasesendhelp8 · 07/01/2025 23:09

This! I can’t believe some of the comments on here. I wouldn’t want to take any risks with my dc as unfortunately some of us know what the real world is like. Would rather be safe than sorry! Especially at such a young age when they are not quite talking yet.

More nuns! Less men! Go! Go! How did you conceive? A session in the back of a Vauxhall Corsa with the book of revelation alone? Crazy nuts!

IVFmumoftwo · 07/01/2025 23:13

There is nothing to stop a female member of staff abusing a little boy you know?

Candy24 · 07/01/2025 23:14

Itsoneofthose · 07/01/2025 23:11

Thank goodness. Someone who talks sense. Good for you for taking a stand, going with your gut, and not being oppressed by the militantly blue sky thinking, naive PC brigade. Doing what’s right for your child. I like men, and have many good men in my family and yet at 39 years of age would not appreciate personal care by a man. It’s really quite simple.

To be honest Im not PC at all. I actually would fail the entry test of being liberal. I am very traditional. In a childcare setting it would be near impossible to abuse a child. Really it would. Also I think your views are not healthy and will eventually lead to you being in a position of having your child have their views being that all men are predators or could be.

Sporklifer · 07/01/2025 23:14

HereForTheAnimals · 07/01/2025 23:12

Hopefully your child won't become unwell, but if they do, what about the male paediatric doctors? Are you going to allow them to treat your child?

Not sure how people are drawing a connection between a nursery nurse doing intimate personal care and a doctor / teacher
it’s very different
OP ignore the right on brigade, you know deep down they feel the same but are too afraid to say it

BobbyBiscuits · 07/01/2025 23:14

@MMXXV she's saying the ones that are working in the nursery are. With no evidence or reason to believe they would be. So therefore that must mean every man is equally likely.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 07/01/2025 23:14

Smellskindafunky · 07/01/2025 22:40

Facts. Why else were and still are the majority of nurses female?

Because of disgusting bigotry like this thread shows?

And the stereotype that "women ate natural carers"

Tryingtogetonwithit · 07/01/2025 23:14

The more positive male influence in a child's life the better, gives them a reference on how to act and /or how to recognise a not so great male in later life.

IVFmumoftwo · 07/01/2025 23:15

Itsoneofthose · 07/01/2025 23:11

Thank goodness. Someone who talks sense. Good for you for taking a stand, going with your gut, and not being oppressed by the militantly blue sky thinking, naive PC brigade. Doing what’s right for your child. I like men, and have many good men in my family and yet at 39 years of age would not appreciate personal care by a man. It’s really quite simple.

It is more likely that those good men could abuse your daughter than someone at a nursery.

Moveornot2 · 07/01/2025 23:15

Skiptogetfit · 07/01/2025 22:00

Our male staff are utterly brilliant. Just utterly brilliant.

Exactly this - my kids loved loved the male member and he was brilliant. Happy, responsive and naturally great with the kids! Ridiculous post

MMXXV · 07/01/2025 23:16

HereForTheAnimals · 07/01/2025 23:12

Hopefully your child won't become unwell, but if they do, what about the male paediatric doctors? Are you going to allow them to treat your child?

Children attend nursery without their parents. Parents tend to be around when their kids are in hospital.

SouthLondonMum22 · 07/01/2025 23:16

Sporklifer · 07/01/2025 23:14

Not sure how people are drawing a connection between a nursery nurse doing intimate personal care and a doctor / teacher
it’s very different
OP ignore the right on brigade, you know deep down they feel the same but are too afraid to say it

Or, shock horror. They simply have a different opinion.

All 3 of my DC's have either had or have a male keyworker at nursery. He's also our go to babysitter.

HereForTheAnimals · 07/01/2025 23:16

Sporklifer · 07/01/2025 23:14

Not sure how people are drawing a connection between a nursery nurse doing intimate personal care and a doctor / teacher
it’s very different
OP ignore the right on brigade, you know deep down they feel the same but are too afraid to say it

You don't think male doctors might have to give intimate examinations to children who are in their care?

RedOrangeSky · 07/01/2025 23:16

I think you are unreasonable logically. However feeling uncomfortable is my gut reaction at my daughter's childcare having a trainee male childcare worker.

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