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To think that Musk is now overstepping himself and the UK gvt should threaten action

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Bogginsthe3rd · 07/01/2025 02:02

Musk has just posted this on twitter (among other unhinged tweets). To me this reads as a thinly veiled threat to democratically elected UK MPs and actually the UK government should consider sanctions to the US if he continues this attack when he enters the White House?

To think that Musk is now overstepping himself and the UK gvt should threaten action
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Clavinova · 09/01/2025 12:06

The last government signed the agreement with Vietnam on migration and returns shortly before the general election;

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-signs-new-agreement-with-vietnam-on-illegal-migration

DuncinToffee · 09/01/2025 15:10

The party endorsed by Musk

Not a single Reform MP has bothered to turn up to today's House of Commons debate on tackling violence against women and girls

wellington77 · 09/01/2025 16:43

DuncinToffee · 08/01/2025 22:40

Opinion or lie?

Are you ok with him calling Jess Phillip a "rape genocide apologist"? Free speech, opinion?

No im not ok with it, shes clearly not any of that. I’ve been raped myself so no I hate him using those words but at the same time it’s freedom of speech and I will always defend that. It’s our choice to agree/ believe him or not

wellington77 · 09/01/2025 16:45

BIossomtoes · 08/01/2025 22:42

Exactly. He also called her a witch, I believe. That’s not freedom of speech, it’s libel.

You’re really going to shut freedom of speech down because he called someone a witch?! Nothing would be said in the world in that case! It’s also legally not libel whomever said that

Notaflippinclue · 09/01/2025 16:54

Pwahahaha - we would be all locked up at that rate - what if he called her a cunt - which on the scale of hurty words would get you a longer sentence? Maybe if he said all the witches in England should violently overthrow the Government - now that's fighting talk!

DuncinToffee · 09/01/2025 16:59

So Musk can say whatever he likes because of free speech?

randomchap · 09/01/2025 17:16

Notaflippinclue · 09/01/2025 16:54

Pwahahaha - we would be all locked up at that rate - what if he called her a cunt - which on the scale of hurty words would get you a longer sentence? Maybe if he said all the witches in England should violently overthrow the Government - now that's fighting talk!

I've never seen a more appropriate username

Notaflippinclue · 09/01/2025 17:23

Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government. When this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved.
Maybe we need a proper constitution,

Clavinova · 09/01/2025 17:26

DuncinToffee · 09/01/2025 15:11

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2g7qgl1eo

How Elon Musk seized on baseless memo claim to fuel wave of misinformation

The original unfounded claim about a Home Office circular to police seems to stem from an interview Nazir Afzal - the former Crown Prosecution Service chief prosecutor for north-west England - gave to the BBC on 19 October 2018. He now admits that he had not seen any such circular himself, despite apparently stating its existence as fact.

BIossomtoes · 09/01/2025 17:34

Notaflippinclue · 09/01/2025 17:23

Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government. When this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved.
Maybe we need a proper constitution,

No country has unfettered freedom of speech. We have numerous laws that regulate it. Libel and slander laws and inditement to name just three. Social media might mislead you to think this isn’t the case but you’d be wrong.

UndergroundOvergroundWomblingFreeby · 09/01/2025 17:50

Don't buy a Tesla
Delete X off your phone.
Ignore him and don't give him the satisfaction of being discussed.

RocketMalfunctionPending · 09/01/2025 18:14

UndergroundOvergroundWomblingFreeby · 09/01/2025 17:50

Don't buy a Tesla
Delete X off your phone.
Ignore him and don't give him the satisfaction of being discussed.

Exactly.

Change things with direct action.

X is shit anyway.

RocketMalfunctionPending · 09/01/2025 18:14

and so are teslas

1dayatatime · 09/01/2025 18:18

@BIossomtoes

"No country has unfettered freedom of speech. We have numerous laws that regulate it. Libel and slander laws and inditement to name just three. Social media might mislead you to think this isn’t the case but you’d be wrong."

True but there are very specific circumstances for those laws to apply.

For example calling someone a "witch" or "woefully uninformed on UK law" are most definitely not examples of libel.

BIossomtoes · 09/01/2025 18:50

They still apply. Freedom of speech is limited.

OneLemonDog · 09/01/2025 18:53

Elon Musk is a whopper and is dangerous, but those tweets are not libelous.

BIossomtoes · 09/01/2025 19:04

OneLemonDog · 09/01/2025 18:53

Elon Musk is a whopper and is dangerous, but those tweets are not libelous.

I suspect genocidal rape apologist might be.

TheHateIsNotGood · 09/01/2025 19:13

Thankfully I've lost my password to X-twits and have no desire to find it or create a new account although I am rather pleased that Andy Burnham supports a 'limited' inquiry.

I would support a limited inquiry too, into the nationwide scale of these atrocities against girls (and possibly boys too) and the processes followed and actions taken or not taken when complaints arose. And like Jess Phillips stated, if the victims want [us] to have an Inquiry, then we [should] have one.

Musk completely went after the wrong person in Jess and well done her for saying "Elon Musk is gonna elon musk". Although it's some extra shit she didn't need to deal with but I hope one day she will look back and see it for the laughable actions they are - "The day the richest man in the world had a go at me".

bombastix · 09/01/2025 19:18

Pah. Reckon Musk is more concerned with;

  1. Possibility EU/UK regulate X

  2. White women not having enough children in US/EU/UK

  3. Immigrants he does not find financially useful (see 2)

  4. Obtaining government contracts

  5. Chinese overproduction

  6. Ensuring his ketamine drip does not have a kink in it

DuncinToffee · 09/01/2025 19:23

BIossomtoes · 09/01/2025 19:04

I suspect genocidal rape apologist might be.

Even if they are not, the tweet was a lie and endangered JP.

It's difficult to believe that people think that is ok because of free speech, hurty words etc

wellington77 · 09/01/2025 20:21

BIossomtoes · 09/01/2025 17:34

No country has unfettered freedom of speech. We have numerous laws that regulate it. Libel and slander laws and inditement to name just three. Social media might mislead you to think this isn’t the case but you’d be wrong.

Yes but most civilised people don’t censor someone because they called someone a witch 🙄

BIossomtoes · 09/01/2025 20:31

Most civilised people don’t call other people witches.

wellington77 · 09/01/2025 20:34

BIossomtoes · 09/01/2025 20:31

Most civilised people don’t call other people witches.

Of course they don’t, doesn’t Mean you ban it! That’s nuts.

DuncinToffee · 09/01/2025 20:35

Most civilised people would condemn a tweet calling a female MP a witch

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