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To think BBC news is lost to us now - bloody Farage on this morning

376 replies

pinotnow · 05/01/2025 09:28

Why is he being platformed yet again to repeat the surely libellous and undoubtedly inflammatory language about KS and JP spouting from Elon Musk. Saying it's free speech?! Just irresponsible and vile. Even the way he refers to the PM as Starmer is just so rude and disrespectful.

I'm a massive supporter of the BBC and the licence fee but the news branch has clearly been infested with Tory supporters in high places and it's just not what it was now.

It's reputation and standing is being shredded😓.

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Marchitectmummy · 05/01/2025 11:47

AgnesX · 05/01/2025 11:44

So that noone is under any illusion about what he's bringing to the table.

People are incredibly dense when it comes to politicians and political parties, which is why there are always howls of "they lied" and shouts about a lack of transparency.

People? Who are these dense people you believe exist, do all the dense people vote for one single party?

Honestly! What an attitude to have.

unsync · 05/01/2025 11:48

I'm always astonished when people think the BBC is a right wing platform. Are they just not paying attention?

WhereYouLeftIt · 05/01/2025 11:50

Marchitectmummy · 05/01/2025 11:40

They aren't being heard because they aren't stepping forward to talk. Simple as that

Are you seriously saying Ed Vasey, partaker of the most ridiculous stunts to draw attention to his party during elections - isn't "stepping forward to talk"?

Pull the other one!

FOJN · 05/01/2025 11:51

lljkk · 05/01/2025 10:18

Seems like journalists need to pin Farage down to acknowledging the Baroness Jay report exists and how is REFORM & Farage personally going to hold govt to account for recommendations that Jay report didn't implement? How is Farage going to ally with rest of Opposition to make changes happen to better protect vulnerable young people in future?

The narrative that Musk/Farage want to spin is that "nothing was done" which is grossly untrue, but it pleases their constituencies who enjoy mud slinging, to believe it's true.

Farage's actual (parliamentary) constituency is mostly old people who don't care about vulnerable working class or kids in care, of course.

Excellent first paragraph. I don't think Farage is a details person so I doubt he's familiar with the contents of the report.

BUT....

You finish by smearing his entire constituency. There's the casual ageism, moral superiority and sneering contempt which have become features of the modern left. It's quite sickening to see it so normalised. Why do you do this? Do you personally know all of his constituents or do you just know "their sort".

I feel for his constituents, they voted for someone who they think hears their concerns rather than denigrates them but I don't think Farage is interested in the bread and butter work of being an MP so they won't receive the service they deserve.

Marchitectmummy · 05/01/2025 11:51

JHound · 05/01/2025 11:46

You really think this is why Farage has had an outsized platform for over a decade…?

Yep. He demands a platform, same as the other leaders can. Do you remember the times of Nick Clegg leading lib dems he was very present in the media throughout his leadership, Same with Charles Kennedy, Ed Davvy By his own admission is different to both of those.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/01/2025 11:51

Anybody else noticed a massive upsurge in posters ostensibly British using the term 'Free Speech'? It never used to be a common phrase here, as although Freedom of Expression is the wording used in Article 10 of the EHRC, it was largely regarded as a phrase taken directly from the US constitution (1st amendment).

Marchitectmummy · 05/01/2025 11:59

WhereYouLeftIt · 05/01/2025 11:50

Are you seriously saying Ed Vasey, partaker of the most ridiculous stunts to draw attention to his party during elections - isn't "stepping forward to talk"?

Pull the other one!

Ed Vaizey ? He isn't a leader of a party, nor was he in the lead up to the election. You do realise Nigel F is leader of Reform, not just an MP. Which incidentally Ed V hasn't been since 2019.

JRSKSSBH · 05/01/2025 11:59

pinotnow · 05/01/2025 09:28

Why is he being platformed yet again to repeat the surely libellous and undoubtedly inflammatory language about KS and JP spouting from Elon Musk. Saying it's free speech?! Just irresponsible and vile. Even the way he refers to the PM as Starmer is just so rude and disrespectful.

I'm a massive supporter of the BBC and the licence fee but the news branch has clearly been infested with Tory supporters in high places and it's just not what it was now.

It's reputation and standing is being shredded😓.

Its reputation is that it is a bastion of luxury beliefs and left wing views. The BBC is supposed to be impartial. Turn it off if you can’t deal with reality. Starmer is toast. The speed of political change is extraordinary and Reform is going to be a big part of the next parliament. They won a mock general election at my son’s school and the teachers hushed it up. The students were furious.

saraclara · 05/01/2025 12:01

Errors · 05/01/2025 09:30

The BBC is supposed to be politically neutral (although I find that questionable at the best of times) that means giving air time to a range of different political figures… not just the ones you agree with.

That. It's constantly accused of being left wring, if anything. So yes, it's important that it reflects all sides of the political world.

JHound · 05/01/2025 12:01

Marchitectmummy · 05/01/2025 11:51

Yep. He demands a platform, same as the other leaders can. Do you remember the times of Nick Clegg leading lib dems he was very present in the media throughout his leadership, Same with Charles Kennedy, Ed Davvy By his own admission is different to both of those.

Where are you seeing he demands a platform and others do not?

Nick Clegg’s appearance in the media was directly in line with how well the Lib Dem’s were doing.

Farage’s is not and never has been.

And why do you think getting a platform is as simple as asking. Do you think if I insisted vehemently to the BBC that they routinely have me on daytime TV they would just say “ok”?

JRSKSSBH · 05/01/2025 12:02

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/01/2025 11:51

Anybody else noticed a massive upsurge in posters ostensibly British using the term 'Free Speech'? It never used to be a common phrase here, as although Freedom of Expression is the wording used in Article 10 of the EHRC, it was largely regarded as a phrase taken directly from the US constitution (1st amendment).

What a stretch. Free Speech is standard English for Brits.

Heylittlesongbird · 05/01/2025 12:02

I find it interesting that supporters of whichever party is in power accuse the BBC of being biased against them. That makes me think that they are probably doing impartial quite well.

CuddlyDodoToy · 05/01/2025 12:03

WhereYouLeftIt · 05/01/2025 11:50

Are you seriously saying Ed Vasey, partaker of the most ridiculous stunts to draw attention to his party during elections - isn't "stepping forward to talk"?

Pull the other one!

He's so effective at putting himself forward that people can't even remember his name! 😂

Ablondiebutagoody · 05/01/2025 12:04

CuddlyDodoToy · 05/01/2025 12:03

He's so effective at putting himself forward that people can't even remember his name! 😂

I know. He needs some better stunts. I take a mild interest in politics and swear that I've never heard of him.

wholettheturnipsburn · 05/01/2025 12:07

AlisonDonut · 05/01/2025 09:59

You say Farage and then accuse him of disrespect for calling Starmer Starmer.

It's this ridiculous 'shut it down' attitude that will lead to him being the next prime minister.

As the Op has pointed out, she's not an MP so can call him whatever name she likes

Marchitectmummy · 05/01/2025 12:08

JHound · 05/01/2025 12:01

Where are you seeing he demands a platform and others do not?

Nick Clegg’s appearance in the media was directly in line with how well the Lib Dem’s were doing.

Farage’s is not and never has been.

And why do you think getting a platform is as simple as asking. Do you think if I insisted vehemently to the BBC that they routinely have me on daytime TV they would just say “ok”?

Edited

I'm not trawling archives to prove to you, but have a think back to pre election debates and NF looked like he would be excluded, do you remember any press around that?

So let's approach it another way, imagine another leader of a political party asks to speak on BBC and is denied. Do you think they would publicise that or do you think they would speak out?

There is your answer.

wholettheturnipsburn · 05/01/2025 12:09

AlisonDonut · 05/01/2025 10:03

But, some speakers are deliberately using their platform to stir up hate and drive division

Like when the PM called everyone upset about the murder of 3 young girls 'racists'?

No he didn't. He called racists racists. Which they were

Michellesbackbrace · 05/01/2025 12:11

Errors · 05/01/2025 09:30

The BBC is supposed to be politically neutral (although I find that questionable at the best of times) that means giving air time to a range of different political figures… not just the ones you agree with.

This.

And why the hell should he respect STARMER?

bombastix · 05/01/2025 12:11

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/01/2025 11:51

Anybody else noticed a massive upsurge in posters ostensibly British using the term 'Free Speech'? It never used to be a common phrase here, as although Freedom of Expression is the wording used in Article 10 of the EHRC, it was largely regarded as a phrase taken directly from the US constitution (1st amendment).

Yes. Along with perps and other Americanisms. I just disregard those posters. We aren’t the States.

Walrusdress · 05/01/2025 12:17

Farage and his cause got 14 million voters before, he has mass appeal.

sleepwouldbenice · 05/01/2025 12:19

Although I agree with your distance for Musk and Farage, and repeating their views, YABU
Of course they are going to have him on , as he's the only idiot that half agrees with Musk and they have to show balance...

Hotflushesandchilblains · 05/01/2025 12:19

Errors · 05/01/2025 09:30

The BBC is supposed to be politically neutral (although I find that questionable at the best of times) that means giving air time to a range of different political figures… not just the ones you agree with.

I heard a really interesting debate from some journalists who left the BBC discussing this - they gave the example of an economic proposal. If you get someone to argue for the proposal, then ask 10 economists to argue against something and they all refuse, you have to keep going til you find the person who will give the opposing view. But presenting the for and against in this way does not really reflect the fact that most economists you ask think it is a terrible idea and may excessively privilege the opposing view.

Pigsinblankets13 · 05/01/2025 12:20

What a shame I missed this!

Almn0etd · 05/01/2025 12:23

pinotnow · 05/01/2025 09:35

Repeating the vile things said by Elon Musk about the PM and JP. Even LK suggested those comments could lead to violence, though obviously she didn't push him on it and he was allowed to say 'but free speech...'.

What did he repeat? What exactly did he say that is libelous?

Be specific and tell us rather than making things up and ranting.

swimsong · 05/01/2025 12:24

For those that don't twit, Farage has been whispering disinformation in Elon Musk's ear - causing the easily manipulated egomaniac to call on King Charles to dissolve parliament and order a new UK election - with "Free political prisoner Tommy Robinson!" and "Jess Phillips should be in jail" thrown in for good measure. Which has enabled Farage to act like a good statesman by disagreeing with last part while tacitly accepting the first part.

Jess Phillips is in the firing line for being busy implementing the conclusions of the 2022 child abuse enquiry that the Conservative Party ignored - the same party that also recommended that the Oldham enquiry need only be conducted by the local council (given a full national enquiry and report is so recent), for which Phillips alone is being criticised for.

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