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WWYD - child with no manners

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Rainallnight · 04/01/2025 21:28

DD’s best friend has no manners. They’re both 8 and a half.

We’ve had friend around for plenty of play dates and have done some days out etc. She literally never, ever says please or thank you, and just comes across as quite demanding in how she asks for things. No SEN that I’m aware of.

DD is no angel and sometimes needs prompting on manners but is generally pretty reliable, as I think kids should be at this age.

Friend’s mum has texted me thanking me for the most recent play date and asking some quite searching questions about her daughter’s behaviour, as well as saying she hopes her DD didn’t come across as rude or demanding.

What do I do? I’d never spontaneously offer feedback but she has asked. But criticising anyone’s child has never ended well.

YABU - don’t say a word
YANBU - tell her what how her DD behaves.

OP posts:
phoenixbiscuits · 10/01/2025 09:40

Lwrenn · 08/01/2025 10:32

I see SEN is mentioned so if you don’t mind me adding (I mean mentioned in the thread) that many years ago we were taught with SEN manners weren’t important and communication wise a waste of time. So during my work with SEN I stuck to that. Then I had my own SEN children and one wasn’t verbal for a while, then got a limited vocabulary until he was comfortable talking to the level he now, anyway I used makaton for please and thank you with him from about age 2 and still sign it now with my baby, but even with his limited understanding he does say and sign please, thank you and sorry and uses them appropriately/contextually.
I understand why people don’t put my emphasis with SEN, especially very low functioning kiddos but I found with mine he appreciates it when I thank/apologise to him and it’s done wonders for his communication. Obviously just one child and not for everyone but I think my wee son is happier for it, just in case anyone reading this isn’t sure if they should try out manners or signing with their SEN kids. Sorry to derail x

I think there's a vast chasm between insisting a child who really struggles with communicating uses please and thank you (which would be wrong) and emphasising these words are important with most children and presuming competence. Obviously it's a spectrum and everyone has to find their balance. It's not even necessarily manners, "please" is a lot easier to say than many things and demonstrates that they want something.

My daughter points and something and says "hey, look" and that means she wants it 😂 so even if "please" means "I want that thing" it just sounds more polite I guess. She has a speech delay and when people talk to her, I will answer giving a model to copy. Or I'll model it to myself. It's finally working and she will copy what I'm saying. Sometimes 😂 but she's gone from saying the odd word to stringing a few together so I'd rather have her hearing the whole thing even if she's not saying it.

phoenixbiscuits · 10/01/2025 09:46

Just to add as well, I worked in customer service and plenty of people I would consider polite without actually saying please and thank you. A smile and a hello, tell me what they want to order and we're all good. Plenty of arseholes passive aggressively saying p&Q's though.

OP, you have had plenty of good suggestions of how to word things, I hope whatever you say is taken the right way 🙂

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