To think staff at playcentres etc should not smoke in front of children?

[levan]

Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive, but I've witnessed this a couple of times recently and it's got me thinking. The first time two members of staff were smoking directly outside the entrance to our local soft play centre, and what made it worse was that the wind was blowing the smoke back into the room. Then today my dd and I visited a children's farm - everything about it was lovely, but once again two staff members were sitting at an outside cafe table and smoking. I don't for a minute begrudge them a smoke break, but I do think they should smoke in an area away from public view. What do you reckon?

Nobody is saying you shouldn't tell them it's a filthy habit but, you can't dictate what other people do in their spare time just in case it affects your children.

I do wonder sometimes how people can summon up the energy to be so ultra consumed in how other people choose to live their lives. Your child will go to school one day, other children will swear in front of them, yes they will learn all sorts of unsuitable behaviour but as you're their abiding influence, they (hopefully) won't take it home with them.

i am non smoker but i dont expect smokers to forgo whilst on a break.realistically as long as it isnt in front of the LO and they wash their hands fair enough

My opinion is staff and customers should be banned from smoking directly outside the entrance of somewhere. There is nothing worse than entering a building having been smoked to death. I got filthy looks when i asked some smokers politly if they could move so i could get in the entrance before

Just by passing in front of a smoker you are 'smoked to death'?

If it bothers you so much, hold your breath for the two seconds it takes to pass the smokers outside an entrance.

or spray a fog of perfume around yourself as an aromatic shield ori recommend this

OR they could just not be so selfish and step a few meters away from the door to A)let people in the door without having to say excuse me and B)without blowing smoke in their face. This has happened to me a number of times.

Concider other people for once, it's not hard.

How on earth did you survive back when people smoked in bars and restaurants?

I am an ex smoker which is why i can't stand the smell now. I don't go to pubs and most restuarants were non-smoking before the ban.

I can't see what is so difficult in having your fag away from the door rather than right in front of it? It's hardly a huge unreasonable request is it that's going to put everyone out?

i have never smoked but anecdotally ime ex-smokers are most vociferous in anti-smoking views

I am an ex-smoker, too. Obviously of a more tolerant variety.

You can't be more than 25 if you've never smoked in a restaurant. I did.

when did they ban smoking in restaurants etc? smoking ban scotland came in 2006

Again it's hardly a big, unreasonable request to ask smokers to smoke away from the door rather than infront of it. Since having my dd and so using a pushchair, i have become very aware of the fact that people have no awarness of what's going on around them in the street and have no concideration for others. Whn i have the pushchair i have to quite often think for myself and the people around me because they live in their own little world.

The smokers directly outside the doorway are just a classic example of how we live in a society where people couldn't care less about concidering others as long as they are happy and are doing exactly what they want to do. It's hardly intolerant of smokers wanting them to move a few metres away.

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Smokers are demonized enough already without having people trying to keep them out of sight. Someone mentioned locking them in a shed that would be luxury but also illegal we are only allowed overhead cover. Yes I'm a smoker atm.

When my DD was little, two sisters that lived next door werent allowed to come into my house to play as their parents noticed that I stood at an open window with a cig.

The two sisters both smoke now in there early teens. My DD doesnt. Is there a moral there?

Chequers, i actually thought it was a stupid idea to ban smoking from pubs. Other public places fine but pubs! I feel sorry for landlords now.

Actually I do see the point about the door thing.

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I couldn't give two monkeys if they are in sight-just not right outside the bloody door! (I do hate it when anyone stands outside the doorway though, especially those who stand there and have a conversation when everyone is fighting past them!)

as a non-smoker i love the smoking ban in pubs etc means can come home without smelling smoky. the only problem in clubs is now it is non-smoking you can smell the toilets

It is of course outrageous that people do what they want to do. They should do what you want them to do.

Chequers i never said i was against smoking, i said i don't like it right outside the entrance.

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Yes the pubs and clubs smell even more disgusting now. Or perhaps that is the ones I frequent do

CoteDAzur yes i would like people not to walk into my pushchair because they are not thinking about where they are going!

I'd be more worried about the junk food and pop they sell at children's farms and playcentres than a bit of second-hand smoke myself.

But I see where you are coming from.