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What are people doing to their faces?!

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Mania89 · 03/01/2025 23:27

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

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ueberlin2030 · 04/01/2025 08:19

jimmyateworld · 04/01/2025 08:18

I agree this all started with the Kardashians, they've had a huge huge influence

Does anyone still follow those idiots?

ChanelBoucle · 04/01/2025 08:19

missdeamenor · 04/01/2025 08:12

If you start having botox before wrinkles appear and continue, then you will never have wrinkles - well that's what I've been told.

I've seen lots of older women who don't have a single wrinkle but I can tell immediately that they're pushing 60 or 70. If it's not the wrinkles that age us, then what is it?

Jowls, muscle sagging, droopy lids, thinning hair, lumpy tums… a somewhat depressing list and none of it attributed to wrinkles!

I’ve had botox on and off since my mid thirties. Looked awesome at first, genuinely took five years off me, but as I’m ageing I’m starting to find it looks odd and out of keeping with my age. It actually makes me look quite hard faced and a bit odd. I’ve decided to stop doing it. Luckily I leave it so long between each appt I won’t have too much of a shock when it all wears off as I know how I’ll look!

Icantbelieveitsnotnutter · 04/01/2025 08:20

They look like Spitting Image puppets and are always the ones jumping to this vile trend's defence on these posts, getting angry at anyone who dare comment that it looks awful. They look crass and common, porny, weird, mask-like. I'm not opposed to plastic surgery, hair colouring, whatever that can make people look and feel good but fillers are just awful. A silly trend indeed.

Pottedpalm · 04/01/2025 08:20

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:42

Speak out? Lol. Speak out against people looking how they want to look?

And op is clearly upset. Enough so to make an entire thread. What other words would you prefer? Perturbed? Distressed? Hysterical? Traumatized? All rather hyperbolic in comparison but not necessarily inaccurate either.

What other women look like, wether that be filler, hair dye, peircings, tattoos, fat, thin, boob job, short skirts or other clothing choices, doesn't matter a dot to me. So I'm not starting threads about it, desperately trying to find other judgey mares to snort at other women with. I don't feel the need to have my opinions validated by others. I don't need to put other women down. I don't need to busy body in something which, frankly, is optional. Nobody is expecting you to get filler or Botox if you don't like it. I don't go around saying 'urgh, look at that woman with wissened little prune lips! She desperately needs some filler to look normal!' because it would be a twatty thing to say. The same can't be said for those who are sanctimonious about women doing anything to xosmetically alter their appearance, they can't resist sticking their opinion in when it has no effect on their life and no effect on them. These thoughts about others are often also rooted in deep misogyny, these threads reinforce the notion that women's bodies are open to critique and criticism. Posters will often express disgust and say how terrible it looks but then go on to suggest that it makes them or other women feel inadequate. These two statements are contradictory, which means neither argument against is is a particularly good one. Often these type of argument only masquerade as concern, when in reality they come from a place of hatred for other women for simply existing and making choices that do not have any bearing on your life, but do not affirm or align with your own set of beliefs. This is prejudice.

Gosh, you must be very upset to type that tirade. 🙂

westernlights · 04/01/2025 08:21

Icantbelieveitsnotnutter · 04/01/2025 08:20

They look like Spitting Image puppets and are always the ones jumping to this vile trend's defence on these posts, getting angry at anyone who dare comment that it looks awful. They look crass and common, porny, weird, mask-like. I'm not opposed to plastic surgery, hair colouring, whatever that can make people look and feel good but fillers are just awful. A silly trend indeed.

Loving the honesty Grin

Workhardcryharder · 04/01/2025 08:21

Honestly it’s not much different to every other trend that goes round. There’s more known health risks with hair dye at this stage yet a large chunk of the population do it.

Im not sure you can judge women for wanting to do all these things and still be spending money on your appearance. It’s just a different decade and a different trend, one you may not be on board with sure, but still just another trend.

Justleaveitblankthen · 04/01/2025 08:22

There is a British female police officer/psychologist who pops up those crime documentaries.
She is attractive and seemingly excellent at her job, so a good choice by Channel 5 (I think)
However, she has her lips pumped up so large (they get larger by the series') I am completely distracted and can't think of anything else.

Also, from a feminist point of view, yet another female tax?
Use up as much of their disposable income as possible while blokes in the main wash and are good to go 🤨

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/01/2025 08:22

5128gap · 04/01/2025 08:16

No she's not upset at all. She's having a lovely time making herself feel better by criticising other women's appearance, safe in the knowledge she'll have a lot of agreement from people who also enjoy being spiteful about younger women . She knows the misogynist insults will start to come thick and fast, everyone will be reassuring themselves they look so much better than these women and are morally superior, more 'secure' and more intelligent to boot. A lovely time will be had by all, as usual.

This isn't just about judging people who make different choices from us, though, is it? These procedures are potentially dangerous and for all we know may cause long-term health problems. It seems perfectly reasonable to me to be concerned about young impressionable women having all sorts of substances injected into their bodies, especially their faces, in pursuit of a particular look, especially as the people doing the injecting are not medically trained so don't really know what they're doing. As so often with cosmetic procedures, it's affecting women far more than men too. That's before we even start on how expensive it all is.

missdeamenor · 04/01/2025 08:23

Oh! yes, how depressing. I also think the eyes look duller and that youthful glow can never be recaptured.

Augustus40 · 04/01/2025 08:23

You can always have a small amount injected. I have been three times for my jowls and last time it was just 1ml dermal filler. Looked very natural.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/01/2025 08:25

missdeamenor · 04/01/2025 08:12

If you start having botox before wrinkles appear and continue, then you will never have wrinkles - well that's what I've been told.

I've seen lots of older women who don't have a single wrinkle but I can tell immediately that they're pushing 60 or 70. If it's not the wrinkles that age us, then what is it?

If it's not the wrinkles that age us, then what is it?

The entire aging process. It’s not just wrinkles, it’s the entire body changing with time - wrinkles are just one element. If you go through a series of photos of the same person from when they were young to say middle age, you’ll see all sorts of changes that are inevitable as the body ages. The trouble with things like Botox is that some see it as an alternative to actually looking after themselves, and as with many other things, the long term effects of regular Botox use aren’t known.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/01/2025 08:28

Workhardcryharder · 04/01/2025 08:21

Honestly it’s not much different to every other trend that goes round. There’s more known health risks with hair dye at this stage yet a large chunk of the population do it.

Im not sure you can judge women for wanting to do all these things and still be spending money on your appearance. It’s just a different decade and a different trend, one you may not be on board with sure, but still just another trend.

The difference is that most other trends are reversible. Even the women who plucked their eyebrows into oblivion in the early 2000s can get microblading.

Rosiecidar · 04/01/2025 08:29

I know a lot of women who have Botox to "freshen" up, it's discreet and you wouldn't really notice it. But there's a trend now to get obvious injections such as fillers. Plump lips, a face that doesn't move. Sometimes I may see someone and something isn't quite right, normally there's a lack of facial movement and I will put that down to Botox and fillers
In many respects there's always been trends - permed hair, hair colours etc.
But many women don't realise that some of these products, fillers in particular stay in you and need removal at some point. There's also a cost element, yes some people can afford the look and it's up to people how to spend their money, but honestly I suspect a lot are building up debt and not saving all. I work in a profession that's relatively high earning, a few colleagues get a bit of Botox. But it's the junior level in early 30s who are earning less than the national average wage who are getting botox, fillers, extensions , nails, boob jobs but at the same time they aren't able to save at all.

Tubs11 · 04/01/2025 08:31

Each to their own but I feel fillers and Botox is not something that's really needed until you're into your forties. A time when you're more confident in yourself and likely to make the decision to have Botox cause you want to rather than to please someone else. I really don't see why anyone has it before 35 +(unless for non lines) as that's like feeding your face a hamburger when it's naturally made of steak.

chocolatespreadsandwich · 04/01/2025 08:31

I agree op. It's one thing older women doing it (although it isn't for me at all, I am not afraid to age).

But it is heartbreaking young women doing it.

Herewegoagain84 · 04/01/2025 08:31

But it’s not this, is it? It’s a opinion and discussion on how a particular age group who are basically in their prime, suddenly think they need to be cosmetically altering themselves. This wasn’t the case 10 years ago etc. Not only does it look awful (and that is just my opinion and no one has to take it), but it’s an objective conversation as raised by OP as to why this is suddenly such a trend.

Begethwin · 04/01/2025 08:35

Horserider5678 · 04/01/2025 08:12

You’re entitled to have an opinion, but does it affect you on a personal level? To be honest I’ve more important things to think about other than what people choose to do to themselves. I’m sure you have too!

Suggest you go and think about those more important things then?

Gunnersforthecup · 04/01/2025 08:35

Pat888 · 04/01/2025 08:11

I'm 70 and remember wanting to look like Blondie, Stevie Nicks. Had there been the option of a bit of surgery etc to make me prettier when I was 16 I would have had it if I could have afforded it.
Weren't we all jealous of good looking people.

Debbie Harry has had quite a bit of plasric surgery.

ueberlin2030 · 04/01/2025 08:35

Tubs11 · 04/01/2025 08:31

Each to their own but I feel fillers and Botox is not something that's really needed until you're into your forties. A time when you're more confident in yourself and likely to make the decision to have Botox cause you want to rather than to please someone else. I really don't see why anyone has it before 35 +(unless for non lines) as that's like feeding your face a hamburger when it's naturally made of steak.

It's never 'needed'. It's not a necessity.

5128gap · 04/01/2025 08:35

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/01/2025 08:22

This isn't just about judging people who make different choices from us, though, is it? These procedures are potentially dangerous and for all we know may cause long-term health problems. It seems perfectly reasonable to me to be concerned about young impressionable women having all sorts of substances injected into their bodies, especially their faces, in pursuit of a particular look, especially as the people doing the injecting are not medically trained so don't really know what they're doing. As so often with cosmetic procedures, it's affecting women far more than men too. That's before we even start on how expensive it all is.

I believe there are some posters who are coming at it from this angle, yes. And that there is a worthwhile discussion to be had about these issues. Unfortunately the people who want a respectful discussion about the health and societal issues tend to get lost amongst the baying mob, here for the rare opportunity on MN to insult young women with the most offensive cliches they can recall. If they were to insult women for other reasons, their weight for example, they know they'd be called out pretty quick, but procedure threads give open season for the nasty internalised misogyny to spew forth unchecked. They can piggy back on to the 'worried' and 'upset' and be as hyperbolic and spiteful as they desire, hiding behind 'concern' and feminist principles.

MikeRafone · 04/01/2025 08:37

I though Botox prevented you getting wrinkles, as your skin doesn’t move as much even when you stop you’ll have decreased the aging processes

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LunaTheCat · 04/01/2025 08:39

Undrugged · 03/01/2025 23:33

Your daughters will most probably be fine if they’ve been raised by someone who doesn’t model this shit.

It’s absolutely awful seeing what women are doing to themselves. A lot look like sex dolls. I especially heavily judge the knuckle-dragging gibbons who parade around with these women and think that makes them better men. Just so incredibly unattractive (the men). Alpha in money (sometimes) but delta in charm, intelligence or ethics.

🤣🤣
That’s an insult to gibbons! They are actually quite bright!

cryinglaughing · 04/01/2025 08:40

I feel sorry for girls/young women who appear to want to create a parody of themselves.
They must be deeply unhappy to see what is staring back at them in the mirror to have crap injected to them.

It is an awful look, the shelf lip, the tight glossy immovable forehead.
How anyone can think they look better with those features is beyond me.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/01/2025 08:40

ueberlin2030 · 04/01/2025 08:14

Jealous? Of plastic looking faces?

They weren’t ’plastic’ looking back then though, because today’s options weren’t available. It was all about wanting to be ‘prettier’ like the celebs but having no way of achieving that. Nowadays there are options which go some way to people achieving what they want, but with no real regulation or proper advice. It’s all about the money. You only have to look at how MJ transformed himself from good looking to something akin to the elephant man to see what can happen.