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What are people doing to their faces?!

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Mania89 · 03/01/2025 23:27

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

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FeegleFrenzy · 04/01/2025 07:44

Question out of interest as i genuinely don’t know.

do top end models do face filler and lip injections? From the little I’ve seen of cat walk shows i don’t think they do. Obviously photos/images can be smoothed out anyway but the runway shows are real and unfiltered.

If they don’t do it then there still must be a thought by the powers that be who book the models that actually that look isn’t the best look?

whereaw · 04/01/2025 07:46

@westernlights but @Fairyliz is right - people 'ruin' perfectly nice bodies by getting fat. But it's not kind or acceptable to say that. It's also extremely unhealthy (and the long term effects and consequences ARE known)

Winterskyfall · 04/01/2025 07:47

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:05

Frankly, while you're entitled to an opinion, they are also entitled to an opinion. It's their bodies. Their choice. They like it.

The only person who getting upset about it is you, and it isn't your business.

You seem awfully defensive.

Winterskyfall · 04/01/2025 07:49

My mom did this in her youth and warned me about it so I fortunately kept my eyebrows through the 90s super skinny eyebrow times.

FeegleFrenzy · 04/01/2025 07:49

Fairyliz · 04/01/2025 07:40

Gosh look at those two thirds of women who stuff their faces so their fat lardy arses stick out and their stomachs swell out over their waistbands in waves of fat.
No, no I’m not sneering at them and acting superior because I am so lovely and slim; I’m just concerned about their health.
Is that okay to post op?

I think that’s quite a poor analogy actually. A more realistic analogy would be if women were having huge fat injections to become overweight.

I think in general the majority of overweight women would prefer to not be overweight, they are not consciously choosing to be overweight. Yes they may make food decisions which cause them to be overweight but we all know that the reasons for these decisions are complicated. It would be a rare person to be eating cake thinking “I want to look fat”.

women having Botox, lip fillers etc are choosing to look that way. I can certainly understand Botox to smooth out wrinkles as you get older. I think it’s sad that women in their 20s feel under pressure to have Botox.

westernlights · 04/01/2025 07:49

whereaw · 04/01/2025 07:46

@westernlights but @Fairyliz is right - people 'ruin' perfectly nice bodies by getting fat. But it's not kind or acceptable to say that. It's also extremely unhealthy (and the long term effects and consequences ARE known)

Of course and I agree, although there are plenty of posts about that recently in relation to weight loss jabs. It causes a huge debate and anger amongst overweight people who don't like hearing others opinions.

tommyhoundmum · 04/01/2025 07:50

Prettydisgustingactually · 04/01/2025 00:49

My DD is 19, and looking at her school year I reckon as high as 30% of them have had ‘work’ done. My DD is happiest outdoors in her scruffy gear with barely any makeup on, and I am so bloody grateful ☺️

Mine is 21 and is like yours. Although she does complain regularly about her small breasts.

BigDahliaFan · 04/01/2025 07:51

i wouldn’t have Botox or whatever bit I’m absolutely certain some of my friends have. I’m in my 50s. More power to their elbow and they can afford to get it done in the place in town where the practitioners are well qualified and have a dental surgeon on the staff supervising.

but I think the OP I talking about that really exaggerated huge lips and cheek filler look that frankly looks identikit and weird.

Whatisittomorrow · 04/01/2025 07:51

Too much of anything is a bad thing.

TotemPolly · 04/01/2025 07:52

These days it's not about being an individual , everyone wants to look the same . So they go about having more and more done to themselves to fit into the expected look .

whereaw · 04/01/2025 07:53

@FeegleFrenzy I don't think the analogy is in reference to what they are doing being wrong, but to the people commenting on it/ making nasty judgements being wrong.

Matronic6 · 04/01/2025 07:54

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:42

Speak out? Lol. Speak out against people looking how they want to look?

And op is clearly upset. Enough so to make an entire thread. What other words would you prefer? Perturbed? Distressed? Hysterical? Traumatized? All rather hyperbolic in comparison but not necessarily inaccurate either.

What other women look like, wether that be filler, hair dye, peircings, tattoos, fat, thin, boob job, short skirts or other clothing choices, doesn't matter a dot to me. So I'm not starting threads about it, desperately trying to find other judgey mares to snort at other women with. I don't feel the need to have my opinions validated by others. I don't need to put other women down. I don't need to busy body in something which, frankly, is optional. Nobody is expecting you to get filler or Botox if you don't like it. I don't go around saying 'urgh, look at that woman with wissened little prune lips! She desperately needs some filler to look normal!' because it would be a twatty thing to say. The same can't be said for those who are sanctimonious about women doing anything to xosmetically alter their appearance, they can't resist sticking their opinion in when it has no effect on their life and no effect on them. These thoughts about others are often also rooted in deep misogyny, these threads reinforce the notion that women's bodies are open to critique and criticism. Posters will often express disgust and say how terrible it looks but then go on to suggest that it makes them or other women feel inadequate. These two statements are contradictory, which means neither argument against is is a particularly good one. Often these type of argument only masquerade as concern, when in reality they come from a place of hatred for other women for simply existing and making choices that do not have any bearing on your life, but do not affirm or align with your own set of beliefs. This is prejudice.

There is a difference between judging another woman and her choices and expressing worry/concern about social pressures to do things. Which this phenomenon definitely is.

I have been a year 6 teacher for years and the shift in what year 6 girls bring with them on residentials is very worrying. In the last few years they have suddenly brought a whole host of beauty serums and creams, face rollers and face masks etc. I heard some make comments that they will need their 'eyes lifted' or their 'thin lips plumped.' They used to bring a stash of biscuits, shampoo, shower gel and lip balm!

You can say it's personal choice but it is definitely fueled by social pressure especially social media like Instagram and tiktok. And it is having a negative impact on the self esteem on young women and girls which leads them to making these choices.

Totaleclipseofthemind · 04/01/2025 07:54

It’s a thing called the ‘Alienised’ look.

The people who have these procedures don’t see it but others do.

Once you have got to the ‘Alienised’ stage you can’t turn back.

westernlights · 04/01/2025 07:56

So many people offer these treatments now. I've seen some bad advertising on SM promoting services with an awful photo of badly inflated lips. The comments underneath are interesting and usually it's men that comment how ridiculous they look.

Christmassoxs · 04/01/2025 07:56

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:46

The 15th one since last month? 😄 Give over. It's just an excuse to shit on a particular group of women. It always is.

It's obviously bothering you so why did you go on the 15th of the month? Did you count them??
It's an open forum and peeps are free to talk about what ever they want to. OP has opinion, like arse holes everyone has one.
I could discuss /debate nuclear fusion if I wanted to on half a dozen threads a month.
I'm with OP about the botox and fillers , it's their decision now to have it done, But many young women may well regret having it done in the future and that is a valid comment. That is an awkward truth not slagging anyone off or being bitchy.

mitogoshigg · 04/01/2025 07:57

I agree and it's a health scandal waiting to happen, putting foreign body into your face won't end well and it looks pretty ridiculous too, lips especially look weird and not nice at all.

My DD's are fine as they don't subscribe to this weird aesthetic, in fact they are happy going out without makeup even, but I do worry about others, a young girl no more than 12 came into the shop, had perfect (false) nails and was on her way to get her eyebrows done ready for school on Monday, since when was year 8 a fashion show!

FatFiatMultiplaWhopper · 04/01/2025 07:59

It's something that's designed to look good in still photos but that looks awful in real life.

ueberlin2030 · 04/01/2025 08:00

Walrusdress · 04/01/2025 07:39

Choices aren’t made in isolation because society and media shape what’s desirable. The beauty industry profits by promoting insecurities and even social media becomes less of a choice when it’s how people connect, work etc. These pressures make fillers and botox into less personal decisions in our beauty obsessed society.

People can choose not to buy into any of it though, they can choose to spend their time doing more worthwhile things!

Begethwin · 04/01/2025 08:00

At over the top response @Anotherparkingthread

UtterlyOtterly · 04/01/2025 08:01

It looks dreadful and it does matter. It can give young girls the idea that they are not perfect as they are and that they too need to have their faces injected with crap.

No, it doesn't affect me but it is not me I'm worried about.

ueberlin2030 · 04/01/2025 08:01

Pat888 · 04/01/2025 07:35

I don't know - the treatments and surgery is excellent if you can afford it - maybe you just carry on through life having different stuff.
Sally Phillips was on a chat show recently - she looked younger than she did in Bridget Jones Diary !

No, treatments and surgery are not excellent. We all age, it's normal!

Begethwin · 04/01/2025 08:04

caramelcappucino · 04/01/2025 00:58

I do believe this shift in beauty culture has been heavily influenced by beauty standards portrayed in the media today which is only further exacerbated by the (mostly) universal reliance on technology and social media that is constantly portraying beauty standards to which that visual representation of beauty is defined as desirable.
It’s a sad time for the world and this issue is like the domino effect to so many more deep-rooted cultural differences. It’s like a mediated battle of the traditional and the contemporary 💐

I do though think beauty standards in the media have shifted again, away from this look, but it will take time for it to fall out of fashion. Like bandage dresses

Mydogisamassivetwat · 04/01/2025 08:05

My ds girlfriend is 23. She’s beautiful. But she already has botox. It’s to stop the wrinkles from ever appearing, apparently.

She also has lip fillers, has her chin filled to even out her profile and a whole list of cosmetic things, nails, micro blading on eyebrows.

She needs none of it. She’s so young. He mum has a lot of things done too, and is always tying to get me to come along with her “just to see”. She is 49 and I am 44, I don’t think she needs all the botox, fillers, all the other stuff she has done to her skin. She laughs at me as the only things I use are soap and water and castor oil on my face before bed. She always asks me “how” I can go out without make up. I couldn’t give a shit about how other people see me to be honest. That’s not my problem. I’ve got great skin, I don’t need to be trowling chemicals on it.

Ds girlfriend bought me a make up make over thing for Christmas, which was so sweet of her, and of course, I accepted it gratefully with a big smile on my face, but I’m dreading it.

I don’t wear make up, I’m 44, and once I was out of my goth phase at 19, I’ve never worn it again, mainly as I look like the joker with it on, and also, I can’t see myself. I see make up as something for other people - you put it on so other people think you look nice. Fuck that, I’m not spending money and time so other people can form an opinion on how I look.

I have two young daughters 10 and 4, and honestly, I would be horrified if at the age of 23 they were injecting stuff into their faces and plastering themselves with make up.

Workhardcryharder · 04/01/2025 08:06

GiveItAGoMalcom · 04/01/2025 01:01

I think also (although it's not a popular opinion on MN) a lot of parents need to look long and hard at themselves.

Most kids by the time they're about 12 or 13, have had their photos posted on social media platforms (from scan pic to present day), by their own parents who bask in the 'likes' and 'love hearts' from others.

The same parents will then try to tell their kids that looks don't matter.

I see this as telling your kids smoking is bad, whilst hanging a fag out of the side of your mouth.

They're getting massively mixed messages.

Huh? Posting a pic of your kid at the park playing or whatever is teaching them that looks matter?

Presumably you opted your kids out of school photos then?

Matilda761 · 04/01/2025 08:07

ElizabethTaylorsEyebrow · 04/01/2025 00:56

No woman who sports this look grew up in a beautiful victorian house in islington or hampstead, had a dad who was a history of art lecturer and a mum who was a psychologist, read politics at oxford etc.

It is a look closely associated with the group of women who have always been sneered at for their vulgar aesthetic preferences, whether that’s overfilled lips, orange tans, revealing clothes or grey crushed velvet sofas.

So on that level I’m a bit wary of the amount of “concern” directed at these women, on here and elsewhere. Some of it comes across as cloaked snobbery (not the OP, to be clear!).

At the same time… I can’t deny I find this trend utterly disheartening from a feminist perspective.

I totally agree

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