Elon Musk and Racism

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Inspired by the other long running thread. I keep reading that he tweets and retweets racist comments. Can anyone link any or all of them please? I see tweets over illegal immigration, as opposed to immigration, but not racist?

So instead of opinions please can people post the actual words used or retweeted? Or anything he said in interviews, word for word?

Thanks!

https://time.com/6311698/antisemitism-conspiracy-theories-rothschild/

here’s a starter.

There’s also an entire Wikipedia page devoted to conspiracy theories about Soros.

I am really surprised that post about Soros is still standing. Maybe MNHQ doesn't mind the site being used to spread anti-semetic conspiracy theories.

It is for me to say, actually. And why are you thanking me for my apology to anyone who might have read it, the subject matter being so vile? How ridiculous.

Savonarola eh? Nice to see you decided to elucidate further so eloquently! Not sure about the comparison but we can all have our opinions!

I shorten Elon Musk to EM too... is this a bad thing nowadays? And anything else wherever possible.

Okay so it is a thing after all (I wonder who wrote it...) but I am sorry I really don't have time for conspiracy theories right now. And before I get called antisemetic, I have and am proud of my Jewish heritage in fact.

What smear?

Eh? You apologised directly to me. I thanked you for it. How strange that you are trying to.turn that against me. Nowt so strange as folk.

That is exactly what I wrote - that he accompanied a German SS officer when he was only 14 - what is the smear?

Took me less than 30sec to find plenty of examples.
Here's one
Civil Rights Groups Horrified at Elon Musk's Racist Outburst Against Black People
another
Why is Elon Musk in a racism row with Humza Yousaf? - BBC News
another
Elon Musk posts racist images of Elizabeth Warren | The Independent

You missed out the rest of what you said about Soros. I am not going to engage further.

Eta: for completness a link to what you actually said. I won't be tricked into repeating the slur.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5244148-elon-musk-and-racism?reply=141158628&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

I apologised to anyone who read it - why would I apologise to you? I thanked you for making me aware. I haven't used that against you, I just think your other comments were incredibly rude and inflammatory, it is that I have reacted to. Anyway, let's let it lie now. As you say, nowt so strange as folk.

How us that racist?

None of those are racist tho

I wrote:

"I don't know a huge amount about S, but I did see an editorial awhile back with an interview in which I am sure it was said that his family had rejected their Jewish heritage ...[ ] ... so it seems unlikely that he would now be Zionist (but I am not claiming that for certain as I really have no idea). If you want me to link the interiew I can do so."

How is that a smear? NB I am Jewish myself in case you think I am being antisemetic.

You say you "won't be tricked" - what sort of trick were you thinking of, why would someone try to trick you to repeat something? What are you afraid of?

If you don't think any of that is racist, then that tells us everything we need to know about you. It is literal racism

You have missed out the smear, which I am not going to repeat. But other posters can click on the link and see the unedited version.

The only bit I left out was about his father arranging for him to live and work with a German SS officer when he was only 14, and when he was later interviewed about it and asked if it was traumatising he said no. That was my memory of what I had seen in the interview. Do you think me saying that is a smear?

Thanks for starting the thread OP, so all those people who didn’t have a Xmas dinner with racist relatives don’t miss out 👍

I (and the other poster) had asked for the actual words used by EM, the actual tweet written or retweeted. Not for commentaries. You have linked commentaries, from the look of it. If you can link the actual tweets or statements that would be helpful.

Sorry, what?

Just to be clear, did you think this was a smear?

As I refuse to use X that's not gonna happen is it. Each of those links quotes him though, of course that's obviously not good enough for you

Actually I am going to qualify what I wrote here, just to be clear. I don't have time to read wiki pages entitled "conspiracy theories" because wiki is not a good source as anyone with any or no credentials can post on it. But in relation to these issues, for many, many decades and indeed going back more than 100 years, extremely wealthy individuals have been able to influence decisions made by governments, etc. This is not at all contentious. The fact that we have people like this today is not shocking or surprising.

People refer to "deep state" as a conspiracy theory - yet it has been used by european statesmen as shorthand to describe the different behind the scenes influences.

I just don't have time to look through editorials, which may or may not have been selective or misrepresenting. If you want to extrapolate a quote and give an exact reference so it is quick to find you can do that? To be fair though, if you read the opening post you can see what the thread was asking for.