Elon Musk and Racism

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Inspired by the other long running thread. I keep reading that he tweets and retweets racist comments. Can anyone link any or all of them please? I see tweets over illegal immigration, as opposed to immigration, but not racist?

So instead of opinions please can people post the actual words used or retweeted? Or anything he said in interviews, word for word?

Thanks!

It is great that we agreed over the high profile posters, but the "calm down" came across as patronising and rude.

You weren't the only poster to suggest that EM is undermining democracy in the UK and no posters have explained how EM could do this incidentally.

Who is the racist below? Genuine question, not sure what this is referring to.

do you not think there are a lot of unelected persons having an incredible amount of power over world politics?

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Deranged megalomaniac with too much money and who read too many Superman comics in his youth. He is dangerous. So are his supporters. Whichever race you belong to, you should worry about him. Whoever you are, wherever you come from, he is not your friend. What do you think Nigel?

It is difficult to know how to respond to this. Basically, I don't think you have given numerous examples - some of what you say is your subjective impression or perception, and some of it indicates you have misunderstood what Musk has said. It comes across that you have formed your own opinion and then made it a world concept. I would agree that everyone online should be wary of writing things which might inflame racism unintentionally, and to try not to write anything unclear which could be taken either way. But the way you describe things simply doesn't accord with how most people would interpret what has been written, in my opinion, and so I suppose we should agree to disagree.

Thanks for letting me know

OP serious question.

What do you think of the Labour Party sending 100 'volunteers' out to the USA to assist in Kamala Harris' campaign. Do you know the economic status of all or any of them, bearing in mind Starmer stated that they were 'volunteering' which means surely must have been in an economic situation to be able to do that for free? What would the financial cut off be for helping the Democrats in the USA election?

Personal power. I don't think he gives a flying fuck about abused girls.
I've seen a poster supporting him who thinks AfD is Germany's last hope. He's supported by racists as far as I'm concerned.

I am not up to date with anything recent, but I think that the perception of most people of my generation was that he was associated with violent racism - whether rightly or wrongly - so for example until I had DC I worked in commerce at a reasonably high level in the city (London), alongside many professionals of many different cultures and backgrounds, all of whom were respected professionals appointed on merit - so whatever one's cultural heritage, class, sex or religion, we had a strong HR department and legal ethic, people were appointed on merit and treated with respect as the professionals they were. Yet, just down the road after a Chelsea match you would find the most disgusting racism aimed at certain groups, some of my colleagues would not be able to go in, there seemed to be a dangerous level of racism in other places. He was associated with the latter. In a way this is a UK cultural thing and I am not sure EM would be aware of it. And others might disagree with my assessment of it.

Then you see the posts on here with personal experience of the grooming gangs and this is a different issue from either of the above issues. If that makes sense.

I think most people reading the court reports from the grooming gangs in Oxford, which he has quoted, would have a visceral reaction of disgust. I am not sure why he is commentiing on the political side of things, as in, i am sure there is a reason but i don't know what it is, but the human disgust is likely to be absolutely genuine.

Being aware of prejudice and equality is important but this needs to be across the board. "Woke" and "Woke agenda" is associated with only certain minority groups' needs being seen as important, with the needs of other parts of society - including but not limited to children - being sidelined. It is also associated with policies which are not always formulated in accordance with medical or psychological best practice nor taking the general population into consideration, and it is thought of as extremely well funded but not always in a transparent way which makes it generally difficult to deal with by the rest of society.

Awareness of prejudice and equality needs to be across the board, for the benefit of all persons, and where there are conflicting needs there should be transparent debate and solutions created which are reasonable and well managed.

I don't think that it is ok that funding for child protection has gone down, while funding for some other groups has rocketed.

Is my personal take on it.

To stir shit….because he can. He’s like a petulant child and has no fucking clue about the ‘working class’.

Eh? Isn't he trying to be chummy with Tommy Robinson? Even Farage is distancing himself a little from Musk now, and Farage sails very close to the wind re: racism (at the very least). If even Farage thinks Musk is teetering on the edge of extreme views, then we should be worried.

A petulent child who thinks the world is his plaything.

I've been on this planet long enough to understand "whataboutery" as a propoganda technique.

I also know when it is a waste of time engaging in discussion and to leave it to those who are, apparently, so much more sophisticated and worldly in their understanding that they can see that hitching their wagon to a barking mad oligarch is going to cure the injustices of this world.

Who is my friend then, genuine question? Because I feel very much under the boot of some extremely hostile elites (Starmer is certainly one of them). Sure Musk is another counter elite and we don't see eye to eye on everything but at the moment he seems like the best of a dire lot. He's disruptive, but for me, that's the appeal.

Who speaks for the "working class"?

100 volunteers doing a bit of campaigning on the ground in a country of hundreds of millions of people is not comparable to the richest troll in the world with the biggest platform in the world shit stirring UK politics.

Well not Elon Musk. For the vulnerable young girls who were abused and raped not enough people spoke up and when they did it has not lead to change. The factors at play here include the dehumanising of (in this case ) vulnerable white working class girls by gangs of Asian men and the chaotic lives and low self regard of vulnerable white working class girls. This power dynamic will never be eradicated with all the enquiries in the world. Therefore, really stringent punishments need to be handed out to the perpetrators so that if the inappropriateness of the rapes does not put them off then the punishment might.

Yes, but not just perpetrators. People who see stuff like this happening and brush it off/excuse it/fail to report it also bear moral responsibility. Thats why the Jay report's recommendations that failure to report abuse be made a crime should be put into practice. Actually reading through the Jay report all the reccommendations seem spot on.

Yes, I fully agree.

When I watched 3 girls in 2017 it broke me. It reminded me of a number of my good friends who were brought up in a chaotic way in our very working class town. They were regularly abused by different men in their lives and had absolutely no aspirations and very little self regard. Any attention was good.

https://www.binnews.com/content/2024-12-26-elon-musk-is-reportedly-paid-subscriber-to-racist-pro-apartheid-x-account/

it is not hard to find racist and misogynistic posts by Musk. As for the woke mind virus, can anyone tell me what it is?
Calling black people them the N word? Making sexist comments and commenting on breasts and refusing promotion to women because of their gender? Which is what Tesla has been accused of in various lawsuits.

Thr UK is not a censorious country but subscribes to two facets of law: that of not causing harm and the court of libel. The latter is very narrow as the mail when taken to court won because according to a judgement a false story could not libel a race and as such could not have caused harm.

I don"t think he should be involved with our politics. Not democratic.