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Doesn’t ever work out with the OW

542 replies

Wishiwasjapanese · 03/01/2025 15:52

Just that really. When your husbands have cheated and left you for the OW has it ever worked out?

OP posts:
Elasticatedtrousers · 03/01/2025 20:03

@TooManyChristmasCards this is terrible minimising of the trauma from infidelity: it completely destroys your sense of safety, causes deep rooted trauma, includes the removal of the betrayed’s personal agency and informed sexual consent plus the break down of the family unit and the damage to children is well known. I've know women who previously had no mental health issues suffer from anxiety and suicidal ideation.

It is not just the difficulties of separation and divorce, the cheating causes harm that often needs 2-5 years healing time.

There are a number of books out there now really detailing the damage of infidelity and it should never be minimised.

Tink3rbell30 · 03/01/2025 20:03

TooManyChristmasCards · 03/01/2025 19:58

I wouldn't go too far in that, after all, a bad life is the consequence of a mistake: getting married/ in a relationship

You can see everything with different points of view, it's not worth it. And it is not healthy to wait for bad consequence to happen. It's your life you are wasting, what a shame

I don't think anyone has said they're wasting their life sitting around waiting for bad things to happen. You'd never leave the house. But they will get their consequences.

researchers3 · 03/01/2025 20:05

MrsIcandothis · 03/01/2025 20:02

Good grief!

@TimPat
That is SO awful. Why has no one told the poor woman he's cheating on?

Youremylobster86 · 03/01/2025 20:06

My vile abusive ex is still with the OW. However, she messaged me a year ago saying how horrible he is and asking how he was with me. Yep, exact same narcissistic behaviour, I'm sure she will leave him eventually.

User19876536484 · 03/01/2025 20:07

Tink3rbell30 · 03/01/2025 20:03

I don't think anyone has said they're wasting their life sitting around waiting for bad things to happen. You'd never leave the house. But they will get their consequences.

Do you believe being cheated on is the result of karma too?

ChicLilacSeal · 03/01/2025 20:07

Elasticatedtrousers · 03/01/2025 20:03

@TooManyChristmasCards this is terrible minimising of the trauma from infidelity: it completely destroys your sense of safety, causes deep rooted trauma, includes the removal of the betrayed’s personal agency and informed sexual consent plus the break down of the family unit and the damage to children is well known. I've know women who previously had no mental health issues suffer from anxiety and suicidal ideation.

It is not just the difficulties of separation and divorce, the cheating causes harm that often needs 2-5 years healing time.

There are a number of books out there now really detailing the damage of infidelity and it should never be minimised.

Edited

Great post. I agree.

MumblesParty · 03/01/2025 20:08

My Dad left my Mum (wife 1) for OW in his early 30s.
He married OW then left her (wife 2) 10 years later, for another OW.
He was with her for a while then met another OW. He married that one, then left her (wife 3) about 10 years later for another OW. He was with that OW for a few months, then left her for another OW, who he married (wife 4). He’s been happy with wife 4 for about 20 years, in his late 80s now and very frail, so there’ll be no more philandering!

JHound · 03/01/2025 20:10

MrsAlgernon · 03/01/2025 19:39

That shouldn't be surprising, especially from financial perspective.

It’s shitty and heartless though. Also rather cowardly. (For both parties as it suggests an inability to be financially self-sufficient).

My friend’s partner left her for his affair partner but during the aftermath told her he had been happy for years. So rather than leave and give my chance to find happiness he did not - dragging it out for years.

He is happy with his new woman and child and some 15 years later my friend never recovered, also because he did not release her early she never met somebody new and never had children.

TammyJones · 03/01/2025 20:10

AutumnColours9 · 03/01/2025 17:09

Out of the many people I knew who started as affairs, the vast majority broke up eventually.

Many went on to have more affairs.

The ones together years on seem miserable.

I'm sure some work out but I would say overall it doesn't go well due to all the baggage and anger.

Yes , totally what I'm seeing.

JHound · 03/01/2025 20:13

Pickledpeanuts · 03/01/2025 19:36

I agree with this. It's inexcusable, but many tell themselves they will "make do" until someone turns their head.

So awful and so selfish. Worse than the affair itself imo.

JHound · 03/01/2025 20:14

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 03/01/2025 19:45

Who is collecting this information and are people being honest?

Why would they lie about their relationship lasting or not?

JHound · 03/01/2025 20:18

Elasticatedtrousers · 03/01/2025 20:03

@TooManyChristmasCards this is terrible minimising of the trauma from infidelity: it completely destroys your sense of safety, causes deep rooted trauma, includes the removal of the betrayed’s personal agency and informed sexual consent plus the break down of the family unit and the damage to children is well known. I've know women who previously had no mental health issues suffer from anxiety and suicidal ideation.

It is not just the difficulties of separation and divorce, the cheating causes harm that often needs 2-5 years healing time.

There are a number of books out there now really detailing the damage of infidelity and it should never be minimised.

Edited

Which is why people need to stop being such cowards and learn to leave relationships with divinity first, instead of selfishly holding onto their current partner while trying to find a new one and cheating. It’s so awful.

changecandles · 03/01/2025 20:19

404ErrorCode · 03/01/2025 17:10

No personal experience of this but, gosh, it just seems to unjust that people who have affairs go on to stay together after causing such pain.

Just leave if they find themselves looking for someone to shag.

Edited

The vast majority are not on the active lookout for someone to shag though. In the course of their life they meet someone. Might be through a hobby or work. They find they get on really well with them. They realise they are happier the presence of this new person than with their partner. They leave their partner. They may or may not have shagged by this point.

I'm not sure what people are suggesting. That once married everyone should stay with their spouse regardless of if they love them anymore or not?

Gloriia · 03/01/2025 20:20

ialsochangedname · 03/01/2025 19:53

I was the ow..We were both married and both our marriages weren't great. We were friends for a few years and fell in love over time, i was the ow for around 3 months before we both decided we needed to be together properly.

He has no children whereas I had 3.

We have now been together for 19 years and are each others soulmates.

I hope you are happy I really do and I hope he has changed. I would however check his phone occasionally and perhaps check his whereabouts. Sadly I think if you take up with a cheat you can't ever trust them.

TooManyChristmasCards · 03/01/2025 20:21

JHound · 03/01/2025 20:18

Which is why people need to stop being such cowards and learn to leave relationships with divinity first, instead of selfishly holding onto their current partner while trying to find a new one and cheating. It’s so awful.

but so is hanging on to your bitterness and damaging the kids in the process.

The amount of people using their kids as weapon in revenge for the divorce/ the other one having happily moved on is frightening

Just read all the threads on here about the first partner hating the new wife being a step-mum to their kids.

changecandles · 03/01/2025 20:21

Tink3rbell30 · 03/01/2025 17:12

No it doesn't. How you get them is how you lose them, they will never build happiness based on betraying someone else. What goes around always comes back around.

This thread proves you very very wrong indeed

Many many have life long happiness with their new partner

TooManyChristmasCards · 03/01/2025 20:22

Gloriia · 03/01/2025 20:20

I hope you are happy I really do and I hope he has changed. I would however check his phone occasionally and perhaps check his whereabouts. Sadly I think if you take up with a cheat you can't ever trust them.

what a way to live. You can't trust ANYONE if you go that far. Even yourself cannot promise that you will never fall in love, how could you? You'd be lying if you did.

You might stay with your current partner despite being platonically in love with someone else, but frankly that's just as depressing and offensive for the first one!

MikeRafone · 03/01/2025 20:23

40 years on my mil is still married with the guy she ran off with

MandSCrisps · 03/01/2025 20:23

I don’t think she was an OW really.
My friends ex met someone, had feelings but told my friend rather than do anything. It blew up but they limped along for another year.
He went on to marry the woman and have children with her and been together 20 years now.

The thing is I don’t think my friend and her ex were ever really happy. They met first day of uni and got engaged a month later. Got married a week after graduation. It seemed ridiculous at the time but I also remember he wasn’t really happy. They were then married for 10 years, had a child, were miserable.

She loathes him for it though, even though supposedly she left got a better life. Ruined his relationship with his child. Got remarried very quickly to someone else who wasn’t keen and I suspect isn’t very nice.
i think she would have been happier if she’d amit they made a terrible mistake.

JHound · 03/01/2025 20:24

TooManyChristmasCards · 03/01/2025 20:21

but so is hanging on to your bitterness and damaging the kids in the process.

The amount of people using their kids as weapon in revenge for the divorce/ the other one having happily moved on is frightening

Just read all the threads on here about the first partner hating the new wife being a step-mum to their kids.

I think people cannot help the reaction as described in the post. Also this is victim blaming.

The person cheated on has done nothing wrong. The cheating person HAS and could easily have avoided the situation by seeking to leave with dignity and respect for their current partner instead of being a lazy coward and deciding to hold onto them while they try to find their replacement.

It is absolutely a good thing for those cheated onto to move on, but they are not the arsehole in the story.

And the kids don’t need the mom to be bother to hold animosity.

I don’t like my step-mom even though my mom got over it years ago. And one of the reasons I don’t like her is because she was the OW.The one good thing is that my dad cheats on her constantly so she at least knows how it feels (and I think my dad’s behaviour was shitty too before your start but he is my dad so I have to tolerate him and we have a different relationship.)

It would be natural to have kids and feel unhappy about the OW / OM playing a parental role in their life.

TooManyChristmasCards · 03/01/2025 20:24

changecandles · 03/01/2025 20:21

This thread proves you very very wrong indeed

Many many have life long happiness with their new partner

and as someone said.. maybe the bad relationship with you was the bad karma for something else.

You will drive yourself mad by obsessing about your ex and waiting to hear any negative in their life. Meanwhile, they are happily enjoying their new relationship.

OliveThe0therReindeer · 03/01/2025 20:24

AutumnColours9 · 03/01/2025 17:09

Out of the many people I knew who started as affairs, the vast majority broke up eventually.

Many went on to have more affairs.

The ones together years on seem miserable.

I'm sure some work out but I would say overall it doesn't go well due to all the baggage and anger.

This. I think that many stay together partly because of guilt and the fact that they don’t want to admit that they made a mistake.

Also many cheaters lose the respect of their children and it’s very hard to regain that, even when superficially they have some sort of relationship with them.

SpringIscomingalso · 03/01/2025 20:24

as much as I don't want to take that opinion, I agree that if the affair started because they really fell for each other and their first marriage did not start like that, then yes, you can see how logically they will stay together

this is why I was very careful to marry only a man whom I fell in love with and he displayed some sort of that to me.

Men are romantic fools , despite we think it is the oppposite.

SpringIscomingalso · 03/01/2025 20:24

as much as I don't want to take that opinion, I agree that if the affair started because they really fell for each other and their first marriage did not start like that, then yes, you can see how logically they will stay together

this is why I was very careful to marry only a man whom I fell in love with and he displayed some sort of that to me.

Men are romantic fools , despite we think it is the oppposite.

ialsochangedname · 03/01/2025 20:25

Gloriia · 03/01/2025 20:20

I hope you are happy I really do and I hope he has changed. I would however check his phone occasionally and perhaps check his whereabouts. Sadly I think if you take up with a cheat you can't ever trust them.

But I was also a cheat? And have never cheated on him. I trust him completely and would never feel the need to check his phone or whereabouts! Having said that he doesn't go out and likes to wfh when he can so no chance of me worrying where he is lol.

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