Happy Elon Musk calling out govt over grooming gang PT 2

[Chainzreaction]

Pt 2 can commence!

How do you know there are injunctions?

So where has JP called for investigations into every single council in the UK like Sammy Woodhouse has done ? Can you link please?

Oh haven't heard this one for a while!!

Is the secret love-child or his double life/hidden second family?

Or him being gay or bisexual?

Or the particularly unpleasant one about one his children which I'm not even going to repeat?

For me this is the main issue. You can put laws in place if you want, some bits of safeguarding legislation do already have duties for authorities in there, but there needs to be a will to enforce them and resources. Resources which would be better spent supporting vulnerable children and women in my view, or training people properly in safeguarding and trauma. Elon can you share some of your billions? But the fact is that nobody really, truly gives a shit about them because of deep seated classism and misogyny. Professionally I have seen traumatised child victims grow into chaotic adults. A fair few of these girls were care experienced. These are the exact same young women who will grow to be vilified by the public as junkies, addicts, benefit fraudsters pretending to be mentally ill etc. Professionals and the police will say they are making ‘lifestyle choices’ and then fail to protect them. Nothing will change unless this is recognised and addressed but it will take a lot of money.

I didn't claim Phillips said that. This is what I actually posted.

Exactly those who were paid & trained to protect these girls need to be revisited. Most people know the age of consent is 16, anything under that is rape. These are very basic facts that seem to be overlooked? Why.

Does Starmer eat hamsters? 😮😮

Well Philips wants an investigation in Oldham only & SW wants an investigation into every single council in the country. Do you think JP will agree to an inquiry in every single council in they land, until she does they most certainly not in agreement !

I hope Labour listen to Sammy Woodhouse. And if a new national enquiry or reopening of the current one doesn't take place then every single council needs independent inquiries like Sammy is calling for.

Elon Musk has “politicised” the rape of young girls in the UK in an attempt to attack Keir Starmer, a former health worker who exposed a major paedophile ring has told the Guardian.

Sara Rowbotham, who gathered evidence that led to the imprisonment of nine men in Rochdale, said the tech billionaire had launched a “political swipe” at the prime minister that overlooked the plight of abuse survivors.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/03/musk-accused-of-politicising-of-young-girls-in-uk-to-attack-starmer

@Chainzreaction I asked you this yesterday but got no reply (TBF it was a fast-moving thread). Musk is claiming on Twitter that quarter of a million girls are currently being systematically raped by migrant gangs. That is 1 in 13 girls under 14 in England, or roughly two per primary class in every school in the country. Does that sound likely to you? If not, why might he be spreading misinformation like that?

(not even getting into the conflation of ethnic minority British identities vs migrant gangs for now)

And that is what Jess Phillip is saying!

Any comment on Musk's tweet about JP, or do you still not care?

Do you have a more reliable source of news than the Daily Mail, OP?

@Chainzreaction Do you have a link to those screenshots? It will be good to read the whole story

Thank you, @DuncinToffee

OP, I think Sara Rowbotham cares deeply about these young girls.

I will also assume she knows a lot more about what really happened and continues to happen than you do.

If Musk is so concerned about the sexual abuse of young girls, why doesn't he houseclean US politics first - where he has complete control - before starting elsewhere. Start with Matt Gaetz and move (very literally) downwards.

https://x.com/PierDelarboulas/status/1874597869644075176

I must have missed your post . This video from the House of Lords does indeed mention that 250,000 girls have been abused here. Make what you will of it but yes I do believe these figures.

Which screen shots. The ones from Sammy Woodhouse's twitter?

I feel like I have heard about these grooming gangs forever.
At least 15 years?
It's a story I avoid because it's so upsetting & me knowing anything about it helps nothing.
I don't know how anyone could say cover up. Many culprits were prosecuted & publicly identified, failings in the care system were described, the foster carers were interviewed about their experiences, the law enforcement people have been interviewed, descriptions of police failings and limited powers to intervene, specific businesses that were where the victims were recruited, specific ethnic identities of the culprits were stated, endless newspaper articles, interviews with large numbers of victims happened over many years across a huge range of media.

The only way the "cover-up" narrative succeeds is if you truly hand-on-heart believe Muslim men are evil and the Muslim community has actively tried to promote and encourage the exploitation and people with formal jobs to do otherwise, they corruptly (were paid to protect?) protected the perpetrators.

MNers generally say that all men are evil predators who work collaboratively and very proactively to further their evil doings, so does this "cover up" allegation exceed the usual amount of everywhere-male-predatory-evilness that many MNers believe in? Is that the idea that people want to promote, that being mostly Muslim made the culprits especially evil?

https://x.com/sammywoodhouse1/status/1875343296127758507

This is a link to SW tweet calling for an investigation into every single council if this is what you referring to.

That is from 2018, UKIP's Lord Pearson of Rannoch

Full exchange here
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/2018-10-22/debates/A26039CF-894E-4875-AB3A-B26360DE2CEC/SexualOffences

I see she has voted Reform

Sorry, I am not on twitter but that was one of the tweets I could see.

The word "extrapolate" is very important here. There is no actual official figure of 250k.

They possibly were not very well trained. To go back and look at every professional involved in this to attempt to prove some criminal liability would be an enormous job, take many, many years and probably extremely difficult to prove anyway. And then they would have to revisit every single historical case of CSE or child abuse in the country not only because there were brown men involved, because it wouldn’t be fair only to focus on only one group of victims?

For me it isn’t necessarily about individual professionals and their fuck ups, sometimes it is of course, but largely it’s because they work within a culture where is has become acceptable to write some people off or fail to act because ‘lifestyle choices’. Unfortunately this also includes children at times. It is a problem within our own British culture as much as anything.

Hitchens law applies, of course.

I don't really mind when non-British people comment on British affairs, I know when Obama and Michel Barnier etc commented on Brexit people were upset at their 'interfering' but tbh I thought it was fine for them to have their say. Likewise there were US celebs commenting on Savile and also on other stuff like Windrush, again I think it can be a bit humiliating when your country's being criticised in that way but I also think some good can come of it, it forces us to re-examine things with fresh eyes.

Also, we comment on foreign affairs all the time like loads of British politicians and celebs have commented on Trump or Israel-Gaza, again I wouldn't call it interference as such just commentating.

I'm actually pleased that Musk is using his platform to highlight this issue as for me its a feminist and a class issue and I'm glad that vulnerable people who are normally ignored are having a light shone on what they've suffered.