Happy Elon Musk calling out govt over grooming gang PT 2

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Pt 2 can commence!

Thanks. I agree with you completely & I think Labour need to do a complete overhaul of the existing laws.
I have been reading posts online of those who reported what they knew & were shut down when they reported. New laws need to be introduced here, failure to intervene with information received from colleagues must be treated as complicit with just consequences.

Yup completely agree and we also need to remove the quota on rape cases. The CPS have admitted there is a quota to fudge rape case data and I have seen this first hand of rape cases being NFA'd when there is solid evidence on purpose and using such victim blaming attitudes (if they get a custodial sentence it is your fault) etc. That needs to change too as without the means to prosecute then they will not be held to account.

The victims want a new enquiry!!!!

A victim has expressed they'd support another enquiry.

I don't know why you keep typing sentences stating incorrect information as fact 🙄🤦‍♀️

More inquiries, more reports just kick the can further down the line. They take years and cost millions. What’s needed is to fully implement recommendations already made. This is from the Mail so hardly a ‘leftie’ source, saying that following recommendations can change things https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c849100101eo.amp

Agreed but no good can come of Elon Misk trying to stir the pot like this. We need the government to step up but unaccountable zillionaires who love power for its own sake and offer no public service need to fuck off.
A stopped clock has happened to tell the right time twice a day and I want to support women and girls affected by organised sexual abuse as would any decent human but I really want Musk to piss off out of it.

Let's see what Labour do. Anything less than a complete overhaul of our legislation & definitions is an utter failure.

Advent** I went to a secure children's home as part of my employment once. It had originally housed those imprisoned too but is solely secure housing now.
I was told it mainly housed girls who had been victims of CSE and needed to be removed and secured for their own protection.

I was not prepared for looking at these girls who were simply children.

OP. I absolutely want a solution to this. But Musk is not aiming for that - he is using Twitter to stoke hatred and division and that will only detract from work on the ground and put these girls in even more danger.

We need to stop pussy footing around the political arguments occurring from both sides on this and allow the recommendations for the previous 7year enquiry be put to work.

that's what Labour are doing and intending - so people need to stop detracting from that and taking the attention away from what's being done to argue with a billionaire twat with his own agenda from elsewhere.

Not happening. The country’s broke and there are hundreds of thousands of kids living in poverty.

This issue is also quite related to tackling the problem of kids living in poverty. It’s about the state feeling that some kids are expendable basically. That some adults are untouchable. What happened to ‘Every Child Matters’?

But unless this happens grooming gangs will continue to operate & professionals will still continue to turn a blind eye.
The ball is in Labours court now.

The country needs to tackle all it's grave social issues, child poverty is absolutely heartbreaking & so much more needs to be done.

However tamping out grooming gangs is vital to child protection. The country is paying thousands of individuals to safeguard children, should we & govt not be demanding they do their jobs correctly & govt have legislation in place to prosecute for failure to safeguard?

You can't put one horrendous issue before another. They need to be targeted equally. We need to ensure professionals are doing the jobs they are paid to do. That alone would save millions of pounds.

So let me get this straight:

You don't agree with what Jess Phillips said and think she should be condemned.

You are quoting what Sammy Woodhouse wants and saying this is what we should do.

Sammy Woodhouse agrees that Jess Phillips is right in what she said we should do- council led enquiries.

You say you are only quoting Sammy Woodhouse. So does that mean that you don't agree with her and Jess Phillips?

What happened to ‘Every Child Matters’? 2003

Much has happened since 2003 - a lot of which has had a very negative impact on Childrens Services - the loss of Surestart alone has been a tragedy

Re-building that will take time and money - lots of it

She is saying (as I read it) we've had report after report after report.

We now need action.

It doesn't say we need another report - it actually hints towards another report being useless without anyone acting on them.

Elon Musk actively supports a government that refuses to give free healthcare to its people, that locks up children in cages on borders (with throwaway lines such as "I really don't care , do you?), and whose president claims to like to "grab em by the pussy", meaning women. And he has the raw nerve to criticise the government in the uk? Laughable. We shouldn't take him seriously or debate with him, as a nation.

Their party, and Reform, are supporters of the far right. They are populists, and don't themselves believe half of what they say. They are master manipulators of crowds. Don't believe for a moment that any citizen would be better off under them, in the longer term. Look to their heroes everywhere, such as Putin, who Trump has long been so fond of meeting.

Sammy just now on X has called for every council to launch an independent enquiry.

Correct me of wrong but that is exactly what JP said needs to happen in Oldham - and you've repeatedly said that isn't good enough. You wanted a full national inquiry but do now seem to accept one has already happened.

I might add it was concluded in 2022 when the minister for safeguarding WAG could have acted. I wonder why Badenoch didn't act then as she's so vocal about inaction now?

Musk is open about his endgame, which is to see Farage as leader of a Reform Government. If you think that will make life better for girls and women or anyone except the wealthy elite, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

Yep. That is exactly what she said in her letter. The one that prompted Musk to attack her.

Sammy on her twitter has also called for every single council to undertake independent inquiries.

Has JP called for a national enquiry in every single council? I believe it's just Oldham at the moment?

So Sammy and Phillips are in agreement that the way forward is for inquiries to be commissioned at a local level.

Sammy has called for an investigation into every single council in the UK, JP has just mentioned Oldham. That's a big difference!

Badenoch is a useless hypocrite who behaves like the political party she leads haven’t just been in government for 14 years

And haven’t actively dismantled the machinery of local government through savage cuts over that time leading to local corruption and ineptitude

Elon Musk evidently hates Starmer but then that’s likely to be because he will now stuff about Starmer that’s starting to leak out, despite the injunctions.

That is because the letter Phillips was replying to was specifically about Oldham.

Where do you expect the money to come from to do that?

Which taxes do you want to raise to fund it?