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Happy Elon Musk calling out govt over grooming gang PT 2

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Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 14:20

Pt 2 can commence!

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Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 23:53

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14248495/Keir-Starmer-guilty-failures-tackle-grooming-gangs-former-detective-claims.html

I think the Daily Mail article was very interesting as it spoke to victims as well as a former detective.

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Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:07

I wholeheartedly back victim Sammy Woodhouse who has called for action against the professionals who failed to stop the abuse .
How will this be done? Reopen investigation, new investigation or a separate criminal investigation?

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DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:08

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 23:53

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14248495/Keir-Starmer-guilty-failures-tackle-grooming-gangs-former-detective-claims.html

I think the Daily Mail article was very interesting as it spoke to victims as well as a former detective.

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The former Greater Manchester Police detective said Labour and the Conservatives were 'equally to blame' for failing to get to grips with the scandal – and suggested that the PM was among those who had questions to answer about their past decisions.

Your hero Elon put the blame solely on Starmer and the Labour government, do you still think he is right?

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:11

DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:08

The former Greater Manchester Police detective said Labour and the Conservatives were 'equally to blame' for failing to get to grips with the scandal – and suggested that the PM was among those who had questions to answer about their past decisions.

Your hero Elon put the blame solely on Starmer and the Labour government, do you still think he is right?

I agree with Sammy Woodhouse's every word & this investigation is a long way from over.

I think Elon is absolutely correct for putting the spotlight on the UK govt past & present for failing to protect these vulnerable children & young women.

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zdcgbjm · 04/01/2025 00:12

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 23:53

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14248495/Keir-Starmer-guilty-failures-tackle-grooming-gangs-former-detective-claims.html

I think the Daily Mail article was very interesting as it spoke to victims as well as a former detective.

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Sammy Woodhouse is explicitly saying we need action, not reports, which is what the government is trying to do by implementing the recommendations.

I'm not sure why the DM felt the need to discuss Donald Trump's feelings about net zero in the article though? Seemed a bit weird to me.

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:17

zdcgbjm · 04/01/2025 00:12

Sammy Woodhouse is explicitly saying we need action, not reports, which is what the government is trying to do by implementing the recommendations.

I'm not sure why the DM felt the need to discuss Donald Trump's feelings about net zero in the article though? Seemed a bit weird to me.

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We need professionals who knew what going on feel the full effects of the law.

Failure to act is gross negligence. Why did professionals who knew what was happening not act accordingly to safeguard these victims?

Read Sammy's quote she has called for action against professionals who failed to prevent the abuse.

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Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:23

Linked again for you @zdcgbjm Sammy says it is time for action against professionals who failed to stop the abuse & it absolutely is.
What will this action entail & how can it be carried out without another inquiry. Will it be a criminal inquiry?

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DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:26

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:23

Linked again for you @zdcgbjm Sammy says it is time for action against professionals who failed to stop the abuse & it absolutely is.
What will this action entail & how can it be carried out without another inquiry. Will it be a criminal inquiry?

She is not asking for another report, she literaly says 'we have report after report telling us the same thing' Confused

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:28

DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:26

She is not asking for another report, she literaly says 'we have report after report telling us the same thing' Confused

Yes but she is calling for action against the professionals who failed to protect the victims. How can this action take place? It needs to happen.
A criminal investigation is not a report, action can happen at the end of it.
What action do you feel should be taken against these professionals?

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DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:31

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:28

Yes but she is calling for action against the professionals who failed to protect the victims. How can this action take place? It needs to happen.
A criminal investigation is not a report, action can happen at the end of it.
What action do you feel should be taken against these professionals?

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An investigation is not a report? what do they do with results if not report them?

Implementing the recommendations is action

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:34

DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:31

An investigation is not a report? what do they do with results if not report them?

Implementing the recommendations is action

But will this be enough to ensure the professionals who allowed this happen the victims through gross negligence & failure to safeguard children will also feel the full effects of the law?

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DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:37

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:34

But will this be enough to ensure the professionals who allowed this happen the victims through gross negligence & failure to safeguard children will also feel the full effects of the law?

Another investigation will only delay it further

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DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:46

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:39

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-61881000

What action has been taken since this report? This is shocking.

We have been telling you that the Tories failed to implement the recommendations, but you keep insisting on another investigation since you found out there already had been investigation.

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:48

DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:46

We have been telling you that the Tories failed to implement the recommendations, but you keep insisting on another investigation since you found out there already had been investigation.

It's time for the current government need to act immediately to deal with the safeguarding failures.

How would you deal with the professionals who failed to protect the children. What would you like to see happen them?

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DuncinToffee · 04/01/2025 00:51

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:48

It's time for the current government need to act immediately to deal with the safeguarding failures.

How would you deal with the professionals who failed to protect the children. What would you like to see happen them?

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Not hailing Musk as a saviour for a start

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:55

https://x.com/sammywoodhouse1

Linking Sammy Woodhouse's twitter account here for anyone interested. It makes for shocking reading. What a brave, strong woman

@duncintoffee "Not hailing Musk as a saviour"???
How exactly is that taking action against the professionals who failed to protect victims like Sammy.

Do you believe action should be taken against them? Yes or No. And if your answer is yes what action is acceptable for you?

x.com

https://x.com/sammywoodhouse1

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Llttledrummergirl · 04/01/2025 00:59

In 2022 when Badenoch was minister for women and equalities, and therefore in the perfect position to rake action on this report, what did she do?

From 2017 to 2019 when she was on the justice committee, what did she do? If she feels so strongly about this, why not do something about it when she was perfectly placed to?

Talk about missed opportunities, now she's reduced to wailing about other people who up until recently were not in the perfect position she had been in when she failed to take any action, not taking the action she should have done at the time.

If Badenoch thinks it's too little, too late, whose fault is that? She's incapable of taking any responsibility and quite frankly a joke.

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:59

zdcgbjm · 04/01/2025 00:12

Sammy Woodhouse is explicitly saying we need action, not reports, which is what the government is trying to do by implementing the recommendations.

I'm not sure why the DM felt the need to discuss Donald Trump's feelings about net zero in the article though? Seemed a bit weird to me.

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Sammy just now on X has called for every council to launch an independent enquiry.

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Efacsen · 04/01/2025 01:04

Llttledrummergirl · 04/01/2025 00:59

In 2022 when Badenoch was minister for women and equalities, and therefore in the perfect position to rake action on this report, what did she do?

From 2017 to 2019 when she was on the justice committee, what did she do? If she feels so strongly about this, why not do something about it when she was perfectly placed to?

Talk about missed opportunities, now she's reduced to wailing about other people who up until recently were not in the perfect position she had been in when she failed to take any action, not taking the action she should have done at the time.

If Badenoch thinks it's too little, too late, whose fault is that? She's incapable of taking any responsibility and quite frankly a joke.

Well said

Tho will probably only precipitate a FIFTH obsessive rendition of the same Sammy Woodehouse piece from the OP

OneLemonDog · 04/01/2025 01:07

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 00:59

Sammy just now on X has called for every council to launch an independent enquiry.

....which is precisely what Jess Phillips said Oldham council should do.

PeppyGreenFinch · 04/01/2025 01:07

Llttledrummergirl · 04/01/2025 00:59

In 2022 when Badenoch was minister for women and equalities, and therefore in the perfect position to rake action on this report, what did she do?

From 2017 to 2019 when she was on the justice committee, what did she do? If she feels so strongly about this, why not do something about it when she was perfectly placed to?

Talk about missed opportunities, now she's reduced to wailing about other people who up until recently were not in the perfect position she had been in when she failed to take any action, not taking the action she should have done at the time.

If Badenoch thinks it's too little, too late, whose fault is that? She's incapable of taking any responsibility and quite frankly a joke.

Reminds me of her shambolic first attempt at asking questions at PMQs.

Chainzreaction · 04/01/2025 01:11

OneLemonDog · 04/01/2025 01:07

....which is precisely what Jess Phillips said Oldham council should do.

I realise that. I'm just responding to the posters who said Sammy only wants action taken.
She wants both action against the professionals who failed to safeguard young adults & children coupled with every council to launch independent enquiries.
Surely those independent council enquiries if launched can pinpoint all those who had knowledge but failed to protect the victims?

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