Happy Elon Musk calling out govt over grooming gang PT 2

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Pt 2 can commence!

Again, where have I once brought race into this. You are hell bent on trying to reflect.
Let's just see what EMs intervention will bring. As you can see from many of the posts on here there are many unanswered questions.
Let's hope no stone is left unturned & those who protected the rapists instead of the children will face inquiry. All eyes will be must be on this.

There literally are no words.

You wait until you hear about the BBC guy who used to grant children's wishes.

Exactly regardless of group, religion, race or colour. All CSAs are paedophile & all SAs are vile ,evil people. All should be treated the same & anyone regardless of their social or political position who protects & covers up for the abuser instead of the abused or turns a blind eye also needs to face judge & jury . Enough.

So what are you doing about Rupert Lowe, OP?
Have you written to his party/ the newspapers/ anyone else yet to express your feelings about his turning a blind eye to all those poor boys being abused?

Musk's intervention will bring him an increase in engagement on his failing social media platform and put Nigel Farage into Number 10 on an anti-immigration ticket that will rip this country apart. That's all he wants it to do.

I don't follow Rupert Lowe & to be honest I don't know very much about him so no I haven't written to him or his party. Have you?

I think if we want to make meaningful change we need to tackle this from the roots.

As the press reports, ‘The men are predominantly from the city of Mirpur in the disputed region of Kashmir, on the border between Pakistan and India. Express.co.uk has chosen to refer to the abusers as Kashmiri or Mirpuri after hearing how many mainstream British Pakistanis are disgusted by the actions of a few men from those communities.’

What is it about this particular city? Does the war there have anything to do with this?

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/697583/Rotherham-abuse-scandal-child-grooming-gangs-industrial-scale-victims-CSE

But do you not think it has really risen awareness again?
Have people who turned a blind eye to the grooming gang walked away scot free but now if (& it's a big IF ) a new enquiry takes place those who protected the rapists may face charges . Would that not be a win?

I don't think we will have another election anytime soon buy now is Labours chance to come down very heavy & be proactive. As accounts are emerging again tonight from victims & those with inside knowledge not enough was done at local level .

IICSA wasn’t limited to particular authorities.

You mentioned him earlier in an approving way. And now you know that he was responsible for turning a blind eye. There is plenty more info available online about Higgins.

If you're serious about "stamping out" child abuse, and all those responsible, and believe that letter-writing is the most effective form of action you can possibly take on this issue (rather than attending protests, or supporting feminist groups that support survivors, campaign vs VAWG and educate people about preventing CSE) surely it would be a better use of your time to start writing such letters instead of staying on MN all day arguing with other posters?

When logic was given out, I think you must have been called to the phone…

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec/analysis-new-home-office-report-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem

"For many in Britain today the term “grooming gang” immediately suggests Pakistani-heritage Muslim men abusing white girls, but the Home Office researchers now tell us that “research has found that group-based offenders are most commonly White”."

I never mentioned him. Where?!!!!

So you believe that there is a grey area do you?!

If you mean by raising awareness he's got the right-wing press and their followers frothing, then yes, it is a success. But will it affect actual change? No. By calling for another inquiry knowing full well one's already happened, all Musk has done is put Labour in the crosshairs. They now look like shitboxes for saying no to another inquiry. It's political trolling, pure and simple. It's certainly not a win for the victims by any stretch.

Plus, we don't need a bloody new inquiry! We need greater police action within those communities, a functioning courts system that actually processes and convicts rapists, more prisons and tougher sentences. Not more pen pushing. Think of how many more girls could be abused in the time it takes to set up, run and conclude another inquiry.

What right wing press?! All media are reporting on the case again & it has also been raised in govt with the tories calling for a new inquiry. Anything that keeps this scandal & the fact that CSA & SA is continuing in this country is a win. It needs to be kept front & centre.
Or are you implying that only right wing leaning publications & people care about SA?

The victims want a new enquiry!!!!

One victim has spoken up so far. One. And I bet the majority would rather action be taken within the communities to save the girls still being abused than a load of suits sit around Whitehall discussing what happened with no resolution.

Grooming gangs tend to come from close knit communities. Be that a war torn village or a certain part of certain churches or corporations.

The IICSA report acknowledges that, as did Priti Patel, hence the need for profiling as defined in most of the reports.

Elon picked his target for political gain.

I've got to say today has been educational. I knew some of the background, had read a couple of reports. But feck me, there is loads of stuff out there. Read the Wikipedia pages, hunt down reports from Central gov, Greater Manchester, keep googling and look around. Things have changed.

It ain't perfect, DH worked in SEN with just this type of kid. Believe me there are girls who are targeted for CSE and boys who are targeted for county line plus some overlap. Everywhere these kids are moved, the predators find them. Some kids end up in remote houses with a 3 adults to one child ratio. Making our kids safe needs work, from conception onwards.

The media is reporting on Musk's comments in general but it's the right-wing arm of it, backed by the Tories, that's pushing the new inquiry line. Knowing full well there's already been one. It's political posturing and I'm amazed you can't see that.

What do you think a second inquiry would actually achieve for the girls currently in the grip of these gangs?

I believe that thinking foreign billionaires should not try to influence what happens in our country has nothing whatsoever to do with disapproval of the rape and drugging of anyone.

Are you saying her voice doesn't count?

The tories aren't right wing, they are centered best. Cop on!

Of course it counts. But she's one victim out of 250k, so I'd like to hear from the majority to see if they want a new inquiry or if they'd rather the money be spent within those communities to help the girls currently in the grip of the gangs.