Happy Elon Musk calling out govt over grooming gang PT 2

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Pt 2 can commence!

Some of them were.

We still have no idea the extent of the rot.

Rape and CSE conviction rates in this country are fucking dismal, across the board.

Failing to arrest perpetrators, and arresting victims or their families instead makes a fucking dire situation even worse.

People were not arrested, while the victims were, because of ‘racial sensitivities’.

‘Cover-up’ by your definition, or not, it’s vile.

Thanks for sharing. No mention of that global humiliation OP is insisting is happening though.

Honestly, half the time I avoid the news, because if I read everything I’d just be angry all the time.

Women and children are let down at every turn. Across the board.

The report says the data on ethnicity reporting was crap and they don't know why it wasn't done.
They also talk about police engaging with the communities in a preventing way.

How do police enter a community to stop this happening in a preventive way??

So just do nothing then? The authorities responsible get to just move on and get on with the same jobs they were doing at the time- no personal accountability whatsoever?

I agree. No group should be ignored.

This thread & the previous one are in relation to what is currently in the news due to Elon Musk raising the scandal again & it's handling. It has nothing to do with ethnicity, it's about the current news story with EM . You & certain posters are determined to derail this into a race war. Not taking your bait, sorry. All CSA criminals need the full effects of the law including those protecting them.

So we can point out these demographics, but not the ones in Rochdale/Rotherham/numerous other cities? Why is that?

I’m not afraid to call out any of these groups, they all exist.

But no one is complaining when people talk about abuse in say, the church, are they? Where’s all the ‘it’s men in general’ comments then?

No. Target them all specifically, and take them all down. One by one by one.

Harsher sentences are needed for sexual crimes.

Build more prisons.

You’ll never hear me dismissing or ‘whatabouting’ a known group of sexual predators just because another group also exist.

It’s a joke. sickening

police officer commenting on X

‘’ I would be glad to assist any national enquiry in the grooming/rape gangs Let me be clear although I didn't have any direct involvement with grooming gangs, I did come across victims of them from time to time, mostly they were mispers (missing persons) I raised and asked questions as to why these missing girls kept having links to Muslim men/addresses, I was shut down, when all this started emerging the force I worked for "looked into" any possible similar on us, I sent everything I had been involved with and my concerns to the team looking at it but was told nothing was found. You constantly had the racism accusation chucked around if you raised this issue. Eventually I lost all faith in the police as an organisation for this and other reasons I left’’

So by exposing this to so many people maybe they will uncover other victims and criminals. Which can only be a good thing.

This. Anyone involved in protecting the rapists no the children need to be fully investigated.

t's you're not your just for the sake of being pedantic..!

Pedantic seems to be one of your better qualities

This is what I've been saying, there are many directly or indirectly involved who have information. This investigation is far from over

The report actually specifically excludes discussion of Rotherham. It's only mentioned to say that.

It's really a broad overview, looking in more detail at 6 local authority areas in England and Wales, chosen because they had not been subject to any previous investigation. (Durham, Swansea, Warwickshire, St. Helens, Tower Hamlets and Bristol).

This needs to be reopened or a new investigation needs to take place . Why so lenient if they knew?

If that's the case, why aren't you and Elon Musk raising hell about the Church of England protecting the clergy who were abusers? Berating the authorities for failing to act for 40+ years in the Scottish child sex abuse scandal?

Musk has seized on the Rotherham/Oldham etc rape gang scandal exactly because it is about race and ethnicity. Asian men raping and torturing little white girls. As I said earlier, if I thought he gave a shiny shit about the victims I'd be applauding him to high heaven. But anyone with half a brain knows he's exploiting those victims to encourage people to his failing social media platform and to stir up the same anti-immigration rhetoric over here that got Trump into power in the US, which Musk hopes will also get Farage into Number 10 eventually. Then he'll have two of the world's most powerful politicians in his pocket.

To pretend Musk's intervention isn't about race is laughable.

Mark Steyn

The leader of the grooming gang, a chap called Shabir Ahmed, worked for the Council for years on end, as a 'welfare rights officer.' He ran his grooming gang out of the welfare office; another was on the Oldham Youth Council. ...Oldham is a town where a 12-year-old girl goes into the police station to report that she'd been raped by, 'An Asian male known only as Ali in the graveyard of Oldham Parish Church.' The poor girl gets sloughed off by the desk officer and then in the lobby of the very police station, is led away by two other men who along with half a dozen others, rape her again and again all through the night

I'm not saying we shouldn't call out the Rotherham/Oldham rapists for what they are. I'm answering OP who claims that Musk's intervention, and therefore her threads, isn't anything at all to do with race. That's just bollocks.

KS was the one that started prosecuting these gangs!

I don’t know about Elon Musks objectives. Only he knows that.

But we definitely should be calling out these particular groups for what they are. And even today, people just don’t want to do it.

Wasn’t particularly you, but your post was just the one I saw that highlighted how easily we are able to call other particular demographics out. (As we should!)

I remember this being discussed on here, before the enquiry was concluded, and people were flat out denying it occurred. Denied that race/fear of being labelled racist etc. played any part of it. Until they were forced to admit it due to the enquiry.

Honestly, I’ve been reading on here all evening, that we shouldn’t be calling these particular groups out, because either white men do it more, or all men do it.

And I’m sick of it.

Call them all out. Collectively, individually and severally.

Victims have been let down for far too long.

He's seized on it because a Labour mp has turned down a natinal enquiry. I'm sure if she does the same for the church he will be outraged also.

Personally I think the whole Justin wellby debacle and his higher than all of bishops are deplorable.

We do not protect our children enough and sentences and approaches are too lenient.

That didn't stop Nazir Afzal pursuing Dominic Cummings and Boris Johnson:

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/02/04/nazir-afzal-ex-chief-prosecutor-launches-legal-campaign-to-uncover-the-truth-behind-governments-covid-19-failures/

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/05/dominic-cummings-durham-police-reject-dossier-of-evidence-on-lockdown-journeys

@Atissues how can anyone read that and decide they should investigate themselves.

There's already been a public inquiry! We don't need to waste millions more of taxpayers' money discussing the whys and whos. What's needed is money being spent on more police boots on the ground within those communities to stamp it out, a functional courts system that actually processes and convicts rapists, more prisons and tougher sentences.

And, sorry, but Musk wouldn't be outraged by no public inquiry for the church. Because those abusers are white and Musk's stance is unapologetically anti-immigration.

@MrsSchrute I also think Nazir Afzal, as someone who has worked in a senior position at the CPS, has a clear conflict of interest here, regardless of his involvement in prosecuting child rapists. The CPS comes in for a lot of criticism in the report.

Glad to see all the posters agreeing that we should never turn a blind eye to child sexual exploitation, and take action whenever it happens.

For those who don't know, Rupert Lowe is a hypocritical scumbag. He was the Chair of Southampton Football Club for a decade, and throughout that time did nothing at all about the abuse carried out by coach Bob Higgins.

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2021-11-26/report-into-abuse-by-southampton-coach-bob-higgins-finds-missed-opportunities