Happy Elon Musk calling out govt over grooming gang PT 2

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Pt 2 can commence!

One might be forgiven for thinking the op didn’t have a sensible point they wanted to make or have a coherent reason for what they were asking for…

In my opinion Elon Musk couldn't give a shit about child abuse, grooming, drugs etc. He's just looking for ways to poke at the current Labour Govt. For some reason, known only to themselves, OP appears to be a Musk supporter. Personally I think he is a bigger, more dangerous arsehole than Trump - and that's saying something.

What exactly was done. An inquiry took place and the findings were not implemented.
I personally think it will be extremely interesting how this pans out , how will Stamer cope will this international pressure?

The rapists are behind bars but what about those who were supposed to work to protect the vulnerable, who knew what was happening but turned a blind eye . What is going to happen here?

I missed out the word Government. It would be a waste of government time. There is a process for a local review already as it's been done in other areas. Leave the government to implement the actions

I hope they re investigate Charlene Downes
does anyone have a link to the Oldham papers please or can I Google it ?

There are so many different views to this but it does seem like the police are 100 at fault.

On what planet would you go into a hazy murky room with drunk children and adult men and not be absolutely alarmed and ring bells?

Concerns were raised about Oldham councils welfare officer who was eventually sentenced to 22 years but at the time no action was taken.

Well I think you for one seem mightily pissed off that EM has brought this to the forefront of the headlines & rightly so.
I hope he keeps calling out governments for their failings.

Ahhh, the sneaky edit, bravo!
It’s not clutching at straws to point out that if you want people to know what you mean, you have to tell them what you mean in a clear way. I couldn’t give a stuff about typos etc, but if you say Jess Philips “warrants investigation” then you are saying she needs to be investigated. It’s no use getting arsey when that’s pointed out. Never mind, I’m sure you’ll know what it means next time you feel like using it.
Bit of a weird take btw - only an anonymous forum, yet you are incensed enough to keep banging on about an enquiry that has already taken place and cheerleading Elon Musk. But, whatever floats your boat, I suppose!

Going back to the initial thread where OP stated that a dictatorship would be preferable to democracy and that she was fine with having a dictatorship in the UK (the term 'bring it on' was used) - OP, which current dictatorships do you feel model the non exploitation, torture and rape of young girls and in fact of women of all ages? I'd love to know.

Exactly.. there seem to be many people who hope this scandal will fade away , plenty on here more concerned about spelling mistakes rather than getting justice for the victims.

Can you post this please & the other posters initial posts. Those were not my words & you know it.

@Billydavey I don't care if the op does or doesn't?.. It's a chat forum not a court of law or a newspaper to publish.

It's a chat forum and predominantly for mums.
Mums net.

It's not really surprising that many of us are in shock about this.
I went into it all at the time and I've watched 3 girls.

But now with the distance of time I'm more outraged and I don't care who and why has brought this to the media for front again, I don't think justice was done or the situation looked at properly.

For instance I don't know why as a citizen of the UK,

International pressure? Don't make me laugh.

It's a big tech megalomaniac who has wasted £44bn on a dying social media platform and is desperate to keep it relevant by tweeting out contentious content. If I thought for one second he gave a shiny shit about a single victim of these rape gangs I'd be applauding him to high heaven. But he's doing it for the clicks! Every article that quotes him clicks through to X and his user engagement goes up. It's a business ploy, pure and simple.

And yes, before OP combusts again, the rape gangs of course need eradicating – but not by another prohibitively costly public inquiry where white men in grey suits blather on about what could be done. The problem needs boots on the ground policing in the neighbourhoods where it's happening. But the Tories cut policing numbers and public spending to the bone so this is where the current Govt is at.

But let's not kid ourselves Elon Musk is the UK's Great White Fucking Saviour.

Not spelling mistakes, fundamental errors in communication. There are probably courses you could take if you would like to improve your communication. I’d hate to think of anyone failing to convey their meaning in a rl situation that could actually impact them. Maybe have a Google for FE in your local area?

Can someone correct me if I’m wrong - but from what I understand the enquiry was a national enquiry, meaning it had a broad spectrum and therefore localised issues (Rochdale, Rotherham) were not targeted.

There were also local enquiries but these do not have the same impact.

Also, genuine question - one of the issues which was highlighted in the national enquiry was that the ethnicity of perpetrators was not recorded, and this should change. So how can people confidently say what ethnicities are under or over represented in terms of ethnicity, if it wasn’t recorded?

I’m actually sick and tired of people saying ‘white people abuse children too’ and that this is a problem with men.

while yes, it is, we need to recognise and tackle the specific groups individually.

I can’t ever imagine dismissing the fact one group of men abuse girls, because another group do as well.
We must tackle all of them.

And the way to tackle these Pakistani rape gangs should be targeted to specifically tackle them

The same way child abuse in the church should be targeted to them.

The same way dark web gangs should be targeted.

And any other identifiable group.

Saying it’s an issue with many groups doesn’t really help, does it? How do you target CSE by looking at a broad umbrella? You can’t.

Each single ‘type’ of group needs to be investigated, look at their MOs, how each group operates.

Just saying ‘it’s across the board’ helps no-one.

No-one seems to have an issue here in saying there’s a problem with CSE in the church etc.
In fact some posters have used it as a ‘gotcha’.

The same standard needs to be applied across the board.

There is an issue with the men in these communities, and it needs to be addressed and tackled.

Not subjected to ‘whataboutery’.

What I’m hearing is the 250k estimate is conservative, and it may be closer to 1m.

These girls deserve better.

All I'll say is let's see what happens next
I am very happy to see the government humiliated at a global level & I hope the pressure doesn't stop until every single person who knew what was going on is fully investigated.

The thing is in his capacity as the richest man in the world and the quasi owner of a social media giant it is possible Musk has some inside information on the whole thing via the site and some troubling evidence on Starmer & Co. Yet it is also entirely possible that he is also just trying it own to discredit Starmer with no actual evidence whatsoever,

I agree the original recommendations should be implemented as a priority. There is no point wasting tax payer funds on yet another inquiry. If anyone wants to waste more cash, give it to the victims.

It wasn't a spelling mistake though was it.

It was literally calling for JP to be investigated.

And when I offered you the chance to agree that it was a spelling mistake to save face, you doubled down and repeated your desire to see her investigated.

Wording is important if you want to be understood and taken seriously, even on an anonymous internet forum.

I agree there needs to be a boots on the ground operation too. If those authority figures are made an example of now & properly investigated then other public workers may think twice about turning a blind eye & actually do their jobs.

It's the first suggestion then let's see how Starmer reacts.

@GoldThumb if you read the report, you would discover part H is about profiling. Victims and perpetrators.
Plus recommendations

Humiliated at a global level? Says who? The right-wing press? Thankfully I have better critical thinking skills than to be spoon-fed their anti-Govt agenda.

And if your issue is that the rape gangs are still operating with impunity, why are you so fixated on punishing those who might have known what was going on decades ago? Surely rather than waste more tax payers' millions on another costly retrospective, the money would be better spent on stopping them now? Or is that the real issue is you just want Labour to fail and god forbid they do something actionable, unlike the Tories.

Totally agree with this. There’s always a more ‘worthy’ cause to be considered before the plight of these poor girls

The investigation is far from over especially with the renewed spotlight? Locally , who knew what & failed to act for whatever reasons?

Here you go. Your words.