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Happy Elon Musk calling out govt over grooming gang PT 2

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Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 14:20

Pt 2 can commence!

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OneAmberFinch · 03/01/2025 18:43

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 03/01/2025 18:41

Im saying Elon Musk is doing this for political purposes, and in support of the far right. I expect you know this, though.

Why do you think the "far right" cares so much about immigration?

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:44

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 03/01/2025 18:41

Im saying Elon Musk is doing this for political purposes, and in support of the far right. I expect you know this, though.

That's your opinion but in my opinion he is doing very important work pushing this to the forefront & using his platform to raise awareness . That is my opinion.

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DuncinToffee · 03/01/2025 18:44

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:42

I don't care either way to be honest! It's not an attack, it's his opinion.

Really?

You care about his other tweets, you are very happy and thankful

Snowangles · 03/01/2025 18:47

In 2012 ks said reliable witness testimony was their main stumbling block in terms of, did they go back to the perp, were stories consistent and were drink and drugs involved.

The select commitee chairman said we've all heard the stories why was not one person prosecuted in x time.

Personally I thought the age of consent was 16 and anything below that is 99% rape??

BIossomtoes · 03/01/2025 18:48

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:44

That's your opinion but in my opinion he is doing very important work pushing this to the forefront & using his platform to raise awareness . That is my opinion.

Maybe he should do this very important work without blaming a government that was in opposition at the time and without lying about Starmer’s role as DPP.

Shudacudawuda · 03/01/2025 18:49

One of the reasons people are calling for a FURHER enquiry is that there are still unresolved aspects relating to what happened - for example, court mandated contact for the rapist with the children born from the rapes they committed. There are women still fighting to have this overturned out of fear for their babies safety.
Also, some of the girls still have criminal records from when they were arrested by the police INSTEAD of their rapists.
Some were as young as 12/13 while the adult men got off scott free.
There is so much still to do, this is NOT OVER.

https://x.com/sammywoodhouse1/status/1875203845539639298

Nicknameattemptno6 · 03/01/2025 18:49

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 17:59

Where did I say I wanted an enquiry into Jess Phillips! Please post!

I'll help you out.

You explicitly say you want an inquiry into Jess Phillips here:
I'm disappointed & confused as to why she doesn't warrant a national inquiry & Oldham is as far as it goes..

I suspect that yet again you have misused a word and misunderstood it's meaning. No doubt you'll claim it's a typo. The word you were looking for was want. Not warrant.

As I said before, you need to write more carefully.

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:52

Nicknameattemptno6 · 03/01/2025 18:49

I'll help you out.

You explicitly say you want an inquiry into Jess Phillips here:
I'm disappointed & confused as to why she doesn't warrant a national inquiry & Oldham is as far as it goes..

I suspect that yet again you have misused a word and misunderstood it's meaning. No doubt you'll claim it's a typo. The word you were looking for was want. Not warrant.

As I said before, you need to write more carefully.

I said why doss she not warrant a natuomal investigation not I want her investigated!!! And yes warrant is correct as she is refusing to allow a national enquiry.
Where did I saw I want JP herself investigated?!!!

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Saucery · 03/01/2025 18:55

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:52

I said why doss she not warrant a natuomal investigation not I want her investigated!!! And yes warrant is correct as she is refusing to allow a national enquiry.
Where did I saw I want JP herself investigated?!!!

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As explained by pp, you have actually asked why she doesn’t warrant an enquiry. Which does mean you want her investigated. We only have your words on here to go off, so please try to use the correct ones,

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:56

Saucery · 03/01/2025 18:55

As explained by pp, you have actually asked why she doesn’t warrant an enquiry. Which does mean you want her investigated. We only have your words on here to go off, so please try to use the correct ones,

An enquiry into national grooming gangs!

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Saucery · 03/01/2025 18:57

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:56

An enquiry into national grooming gangs!

That’s not what you said. It might have been what you meant, but how are we supposed to know? We’re not mind readers.
Google can be quite handy if you are using a word or turn of phrase you think sounds impressive but aren’t sure if you are using it correctly, I believe.

Nicknameattemptno6 · 03/01/2025 18:59

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:52

I said why doss she not warrant a natuomal investigation not I want her investigated!!! And yes warrant is correct as she is refusing to allow a national enquiry.
Where did I saw I want JP herself investigated?!!!

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Why does she not warrant a natuomal(?) investigation quite literally means why doesn't she deserve to be investigated.

Don't use big words you don't understand.

Shudacudawuda · 03/01/2025 19:00

To everyone who keeps saying 'BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD AN ENQUIRY"

Please read this tweet from Maggie Oliver who was one of the earliest whistle-blowers on all of this, lost her career and was smeared as racist for trying to help these poor girls - hundreds of thousands of girls, some who didn't make it out alive.

https://x.com/MaggieOliverUK/status/1875149363611144524

x.com

https://x.com/MaggieOliverUK/status/1875149363611144524

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 19:00

National! Your attempts at sarcasm are pathetic.

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Atissues · 03/01/2025 19:01

Rupert Lowe has confirmed on X following many conversations with a variety of people today that this is still happening.

‘’Talking to rape gang victims/campaigners today, it is clear that this cancer has spread almost unchecked. Horrifyingly, it continues today. Victims, past and present, don't need 'thoughts and prayers' from politicians, they need justice.’’

The Jay report didn’t look at the main towns involved.

Charlie Peters on X has done extensive research on this as has Raja Miah. Both are worth looking up.

https://news.sky.com/story/oldham-grooming-report-finds-police-and-councils-failed-to-protect-some-children-from-sexual-exploitation-12637246

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2012/aug/02/rochdale-grooming-leader-child-rape

The ringleader of Oldham was a council welfare officer. Maybe Oldham want a review as some people believe it needs to be impartial?

If girls are still being raped by gangs in the U.K. why wouldn’t the gov do whatever it can to help?

Snowangles · 03/01/2025 19:02

@BIossomtoes this all came to light under labour unfortunately and in 2012 ks was in cps, he was called before the commitee if you want to have a look.

Nicknameattemptno6 · 03/01/2025 19:02

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:56

An enquiry into national grooming gangs!

You said you wanted JP investigated. It might not be what you meant but it is exactly what you said.

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 19:02

Shudacudawuda · 03/01/2025 19:00

To everyone who keeps saying 'BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD AN ENQUIRY"

Please read this tweet from Maggie Oliver who was one of the earliest whistle-blowers on all of this, lost her career and was smeared as racist for trying to help these poor girls - hundreds of thousands of girls, some who didn't make it out alive.

https://x.com/MaggieOliverUK/status/1875149363611144524

Thanks. With EM & JKR on board we may scratch the surface. So many more must have known what was going on & failed to act appropriately.

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Billydavey · 03/01/2025 19:02

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:29

I want all types of grooming , rape & child exploitation stamped out in this country. Also to consider those who are aware but failed to take appropriate action to also be counted as guilty through being complicit.
No more turning a blind eye.
Do the recommendations go far enough to ensure this happens or should a new criminal investigation take place to see exactly who knew what & should this run alongside rolling out the recommendations?

Well no, of course a set of recommendations won’t stamp out all those things. That’s pie in the sky. We all want them to stop, the challenge is how.

so instead of blue sky “make it all stop” what specifically are you wanting? Implement the recommendations which could help, or not?

Saucery · 03/01/2025 19:03

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 19:00

National! Your attempts at sarcasm are pathetic.

Do you understand the meaning of the phrase “warrants an investigation” now? Do you understand that clear and careful language is essential when communicating on a subject as serious as this?

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 19:04

Saucery · 03/01/2025 19:03

Do you understand the meaning of the phrase “warrants an investigation” now? Do you understand that clear and careful language is essential when communicating on a subject as serious as this?

This is mumsnet, an anonymous forum , it's not a state document. Cop on, clutching at straws

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Billydavey · 03/01/2025 19:04

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 18:52

I said why doss she not warrant a natuomal investigation not I want her investigated!!! And yes warrant is correct as she is refusing to allow a national enquiry.
Where did I saw I want JP herself investigated?!!!

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In this context warrant means “deserve”

Billydavey · 03/01/2025 19:07

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 19:04

This is mumsnet, an anonymous forum , it's not a state document. Cop on, clutching at straws

Edited

Language and meaning matter
typos are fine, we all make them, but using a word that doesn’t mean what you think it means makes it hard to understand what you’re on about

well, there’s a lot that makes it hard to understand but that’s one…

Saucery · 03/01/2025 19:07

Chainzreaction · 03/01/2025 19:04

This is mumsnet, an anonymous forum , it's not a state document. Cop on, clutching at straws

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You seem enormously aerated for someone just passing time on an anonymous forum, then Hmm Throwing words around you don’t seem to understand then being arsey when questioned about it……spending the best part of 24 hrs typing heatedly demanding Something Must Be Done, while simultaneously ignoring posters who point out that Something Was Done And The Tories Ignored It…..utterly bizarre!

Jennwrenn · 03/01/2025 19:08

He tweets a lot of shite, can't get too worked up about this, he also criticised the previous government for not working on the recommendations so it's not just anti-Labour.

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