To think "The Traitors" is the biggest load of guff on TV?

[MasterBeth]

It's stupid. There's no game at the heart of it. It's like Deal Or No Deal for prime time.

I like Four in a Bed, as well.

What sits at the heart of Traitors is people wanting to win money…but, also be liked by their fellow contestants, use their (usually negligible) wiles to avoid getting voted off or killed, and not disgrace themselves too badly in front of millions.

I asked what shows you actually enjoy?

See, I think they are. I don’t watch any other reality-type shows, as I find them mind-numbingly dull and really quite depressing. And I think most of them are scripted and moulded by the production team.
However I think whilst there may be a bit of prompting from the producers on this, for the most part I think it’s quite real.
The trouble with it - as with Big Brother (which I loved when it first aired) - is that contestants now know how to play the game and so it risks becoming samey or attracting certain types of people. As PPs mentioned. So far the production team have done a good job of changing things up and keeping contestants on their toes. So whilst I respect your opinion, OP, I have to disagree!

Last series would have been very different if Harry had been voted off early. He played a blinder. So it can make a difference if a traitor goes early. And they don’t know how many traitors there are.

@MasterBeth said their reason for watching it is because their family do, which is the shittest answer on the entire thread as to why people watch

I asked what shows you actually enjoy?

I enjoy many different TV shows from Succession to Peep Show to Taskmaster to Match of the Day to Grand Designs to Wallace and Gromit to Stath Let's Flats to Antiques Roadshow to Four In A Bed.

No, it's a great answer. It's an honest and revealing answer as to why someone who says the show is fatally flawed knows why it is fatally flawed.

The question isn't whether it's flawed or not (we all know it is.)

You were asking posters their reasons for watching it, and your reason for watching it is that your family do.

It's not compulsory to all watch tv together you know!

I don’t get it either. It’s just people telling lies to each other and hoping to get away with it. It’s nasty.

But the people who like it don't care that it's flawed, it's good entertainment (for the people who like it) and that's why they watch it.

What's very strange is how passionate people get in their hatred about these things. If I don't like something I kind of just stop watching it. It wouldn't make me see red like this.

The tears and drama are OTT but I wonder how much the contestants are wound up by the production team putting ideas in their heads. A bit like on Strictly with all the "how do you FEEL?", "what would you like to say to your partner" questions.

Maybe they'll get letters from home to weep over after they've done 3 days in there . I did enjoy yesterdays episode but couldn't really tell you why, not sure if I'll stick with it

I've never 'got it'. Never will. Like pp have said, might as well have a bunch of angsty randoms flipping coins. Yet it's getting 5* reviews in the Guardian.

I watched the 1st episode on NYD and howled with laughter. All the "I'm too scared to sleep", "there's going to be a murder tonight". No mate, you're going to get a "letter" that's as about as menacing as a 4 year olds letter to Santa and then you go home. I'll probably watch the entire thing because it's one of the funniest programs I've watched in ages.

One of the traitors gave a clue right at the beginning

The faux stress and crying this season are ridiculous. Previous seasons are much better.

What's very strange is how some people think that calling something a pile of shite demonstrates a "passionate hatred".

Blimey, OP, you’re in a right mood, aren’t you?

😂

The question isn't whether it's flawed or not (we all know it is.)

But plenty of people on this thread don't think it's flawed. They think the gameplay makes sense. They think the players determine the outcome. They blatantly don't.

Dontcallmescarface (above) articulates well how you can watch it because it's stupid and doesn't make sense. Fair enough.

People who say "because it's good entertainment" aren't really explaining anything.

So why do you watch other tv programmes @MasterBeth? Why do you watch Taskmaster for instance? Four in a bed?

Weirdly Four in a Bed is tv programme of choice in DS’s student house!

I am fine but thanks for asking.

I'm disappointed that there's isnt a better range of ages this year, as previously mentioned it's too much Instagram generation.

I do hate it when they start attacking someone's character and saying they must therefore be a traitor, I also think that when some gets suspected they get isolated and others stop talking to them, which is why Charlotte? and Elen got so emotional, it's the being excluded for hours beforehand, and I think all the younger ones this year will struggle with that.

Getting a traitor out early is pointless, you're better off making friends with the suspected traitor and waiting until more people have left.

The best twist at the end would be a faithful saying I've known you were a traitor from the start now give me the money 😜

I have to say, I do agree that the jury is still out for this series. But then it is early days.

I didn't watch the first series because the amount of 'contestants' just put me off. I thought, no one has time for this.

Then, the second series I started as something to watch alongside DD when she was away at uni and we decided to 'connect' each week over the show and honestly, I was hooked from day one then. Last year's was a stellar script and a really compelling narrative.

This year has not gripped me so much yet. I think I need a protaganist to root for and a nemesis to hate, but no one is stepping up just yet. However, I have faith in the process and in Claudia, the consumate pro, to steer the ship to a satisfying and entertaining conclusion.

I do concede it has a shelf life though, as the 'cast' become more knowing.

Well millions love it. Go watch a documentary if you think it’s beneath you