To think "The Traitors" is the biggest load of guff on TV?

[MasterBeth]

It's stupid. There's no game at the heart of it. It's like Deal Or No Deal for prime time.

@MasterBeth why do your family watch it?

I love it. Mainly because people fascinate me and I love watching all the different personalities working each other out. It's a social experiment in a way of how people react in situations. Selfish or team player. Things like that

I bet she can easily pin the fringe back and wash the eyeliner off and go about her normal life as well.

I think this is it. She's probably barely recognisable when she isn't in character.

Utterly agree.

Shite!

It's quite boring, though, that, isn't it really? It's not much different to Murder In the Dark which everyone played as kids and found really dramatic at the time. But you grow out of it.

I love people, I find people fascinating, knowing how varied they are in their tastes, which is why this thread is interesting to me. But I find that programme, and most of their ilk, deathly boring. I remember watching the first few series of Big Brother all those years ago thinking "wow, this is so different!" But having watched so many years of similar telly, it eventually becomes just the same old shit. Same old attention seekers and fake drama.

I think for me, the next wow moment's going to have to involve smellyvision or holograms or something. 😆

Fuck knows.

One example is when the Traitors have to choose a few people for a specific thing (e.g. last season choosing people to go in the dungeon). Then there is some strategy around e.g. should we put a Traitor in, if we do who / how many etc. Also there is generally some attempt at strategy with the murders (maybe less so at the start), trying to think about if we kill X it throws suspicion on Y kind of thing.

Ah yes I agree I said to my husband that it's a bit more on the young side with a few oldies thrown in. I hope it doesn't go that way. Not many 30-50 year olds this time.

Not really, because you can just fake that behaviour.

Agreed. And you need to try and stay alive until the odds are more in your favour.

I find the strategies of the traitors the best bit, not the faithfuls. The guy last year had a shaky start and I thought he was stupid at first but he played it so well.

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TV shows that are utter shite:
I'm A Celebrity GMOOH
Loose Women
Mrs Brown's Boys
Married at First Sight
Real Housewives of......anywhere
Coronation St
Emmerdale
Any sports programme
Anything with Vernon Kay or Tess Daley in it
Anything with Greg Davies, Rosie Jones, Noel Fielding, Jenny Eclair, Jimmy Carr, Lee Hurst, David Walliams in it
Anything with talentless, past-it celebs or people who are only Z list celebs because they appear in 'celeb type' shows'
Anything with Katie Price, Kerry Katona or a footballer's wife/girlfriend in it.

And her mum, who she looks like funnily enough. I love her look and cloths on the show.

Yes, but it's bullshit. They pretend like it's strategic but it's random. "Should we put a traitor in?" There is no reasonable answer to that that isn't just post-rationalised (and made to seem "inevitable" in the edit.)

But OP must know ‘why’ you enjoy it. In detail.

Because the traitor has to end up throwing the other traitors under the bus if they want the cash for themselves. And it’s a balance as to who plays their card first.

Faithfuls also stop knowing who to trust eventually. But they need to form alliances.

Also as a PP has said, the challenges force the traitors to make some questionable decisions in order to avoid detection.

Fringes! Scenery!.Gameplay! Lies vs truth! Exposure of people's prejudice! James. Gamble on uncloaked!

The faithfuls never know who to trust. You can't trust anyone. They're all playing a game.

I've watched it for the first time tonight as everyone goes on about it. Not sure I can stand all the dramatic ness about it all, the cloaks, the owl 😅 will give it one more turn although I'm still not sure how it works properly. What if they choose a traitor and get it right? They won't find out til the end? Do they pick new traitors? Or is it only those original 3?

Those poor people who chose to get off I hope they come back in some way 🙈

I'd like to know. You are free to answer or not. Answering "but I like it" doesn't add much. Millions of people like it. We all know that.

But that’s the fun bit because they do! They are thrown together 24/7 away from home. We are pack animals at heart and they can’t help trusting people who they have become friends with.

We all sit at home shouting at the screen that “it’s just a game!” Whilst people are crying over their “friend” who they have only known for 5 minutes deceiving them.

I've never watched it so I watched an episode tonight to see what all the fuss is about! I thought it was rubbish, people crying and saying how hard it is - haven't they only been in there a couple of days?? I found it really boring to be honest and the contestants were all annoying 🙄

YANBU ... but it's strangely very watchable. We particularly love them sat around giving all kinds of absolutely ridiculous 'reasons' why someone is/isn't a traitor when there are no reasons at all! It's hilarious.

Here's an idea Master Baeth,
ask your family why they watch it. And ask yourself why you feel obliged to watch with them

I once made this sort of snap judgement of her and then I heard her interviewed on the radio and realised how wrong I was to judge her or anyone in this way. She actually came across as very thoughtful, humble and insightful person. She gave a reason too for her fringe etc, though I can’t now remember what it was.

I agree. I love Claudia. I find her a bit annoying on strictly because she gets a bit manic. But she's more toned down for the traitors and I think is perfect for it. Not playing it as a joke, but also enough of a twinkle (or something) that shows she's not taking it too seriously.

On a separate note, I agree with a PP about the contestants being more Instagram people. Not all of them, but more than series 1 & 2 definitely. They don't need to pick these people and it's annoying that they do. Ultimately, it ends up making worse tv, not better.

I agree with OP about there being no point getting rid of a traitor early on because they just get replaced so I'd agree it doesn't stand up to much scrutiny. But I don't think that really matters. I quite enjoy watching some annoying over confident man say "yep, her, 100% a traitor. There was no reason for her to talk to me just then. She's a traitor" and be wrong like happened yesterday. It's a level of confidence in one's own baseless judgement that I can only aspire to.