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friend ‘lodging’ gone sour

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sausagedogmumm · 26/12/2024 23:10

Need some advice/opinions

Myself and my partner let a friend lodge with us a few months back. At the time she had no where to go and we offered to help, as it’s just the 2 of us with 3 bedrooms. The original deal was a stop gap for her whilst she got herself sorted, we agreed she wouldn’t pay rent but instead pay for household bits and bills. This was a short term fix, she has a cat who we originally said would have to stay elsewhere as we have cats and a puppy of our own and our cats are female and not yet spayed and live inside and hers is a male, outside cat. She also informed us all her belongings would be stored elsewhere, it would just be her and the stuff she needed for a short while, whilst she got back on her feet.

She was unable to find anywhere for her cat to stay so we suggested he stayed downstairs in our dinning room which leads out into the garden and would give him access in and out - it’s a big space and cosy and would mean he was completely separate from our pets, we even suggested she could bring him up stairs at night - our spare room is tiny so this seemed a better option for him.

The week she moved in, we were informed she’d lost her job and the storage had fallen through, so suddenly we had her, alllll her stuff and her cat in our tiny spare room (and her belongings filling our garage and dinning room). She then refused to house the cat downstairs and instead insisted we put up a ‘shelf’ on the outside of our mid terrace house so he could jump in and out. We turned this down, so after a lot of trying to change our minds, she settled for him being let out the front door (carried down).

We realised within a month in, none of our ground rules had really been respected, she was regularly letting her cat mix with ours and then randomly dropped on us, her cat has a gum disease which can be transferred through salvia. She did not contribute to bills and would leave all her dirty washing up in the bowl for us to clean. She then began to leave her cat outside all evening and go out, which caused our neighbours to complain he was trying to get into their houses - to which her response was to tell them to ‘f off.’ She spilled some kind of ink on our carpet which she didn’t inform us of and it’s now ground in and the whole thing needs replacing, put posters on our walls and cracked our paintwork.

As you can imagine, we are very frustrated with the situation and became even more so, when she asked to write up a contract claiming she was paying rent so she could claim more benefits. We refused as she was not actually wanting to pay but transfer it to us and then us send it back and we said we cannot since that is fraud and we are in jobs that require a DBS.

This caused her to become even worse with us and she now regularly moans at us for things like letting her cat in when it’s raining or shutting her bedroom window if we’re going out for the evening and she’s also out till late.

We decided to inform her, we would need our spare room back by the end of jan (6 weeks notice), we stated this was mainly due to our cat ripping out her fur due to the stress of the male cat in the house, meaning until he’s gone, our poor girl is on steroids and stress relief which is costing us hundreds. This combined with the fact she leaves heaters and lights on at all times and has 2 hour baths which has caused our bills to triple, has meant we can no longer have her stay.

She has taken this awfully, threatening suicide and claiming she’ll be on the streets. We have suggested again and again, she contacts the council to try and get housing support but she refused to do so until we told her she had 6 weeks.

Was it fair of us to give her a deadline to move out? We genuinely cannot afford it and my partner grew up in a household with a parent who regularly threatened suicide so as you can guess, he is finding it all very hard

OP posts:
WhenTheyComeForYou · 02/02/2025 17:39

Thank god she’s gone. This has to be a lesson to be learned. You wanted her gone over a month ago and she’s only just out. She pushed your boundaries and rules continually. Do not allow people to treat you like this again.

oakleaffy · 02/02/2025 17:40

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 02/02/2025 17:35

You could have put the flounce off on pay-per/view and raked it in OP.
I am sitting here watching Emmerdale and to be honest I’d rather have seen Cadging Carol removed from the premises.
Now let’s all pray for the poor soul who has heard her sob story….

You joke about Cadging Carol or Parasitic Polly but alarmingly there are people who go from friend to friends with plausible sob stories
The relationship ALWAYS breaks down
The problem is the lodger, not the home owners if it is a repeated scenario.

oakleaffy · 02/02/2025 17:41

The 1% in the voting was OP’s parasitic non paying pisstaker.

NiceoneSonny · 02/02/2025 17:42

oakleaffy · 02/02/2025 17:26

Well Done @sausagedogmumm
Dread to think of the damage she has done to that room.

You can dump the stuff in your garage-
Take it to the tip unless collected in a week.

So glad you got the Pisstaker out.

Sounds like she has form for this.

Enjoy your evening.
Your cats will be relieved, too.

Be careful re her belongings. You can't just dump her stuff. Legally you are required to give her reasonable notice to remove it, and only when the deadline has passed can you dump it. Look up the procedure under the The Torts (Interference with Goods) Act 1977. She sounds like the type who will come after you if you don't follow the correct procedure, and give her an actual written notice and reasonable time to collect her things.

BountifulPantry · 02/02/2025 17:44

Oh god what an ordeal I’m so sorry OP.

Time for a celebration now she is gone!

SauvignonBlanche · 02/02/2025 17:45

What a nightmare!
Did she leave a forwarding address?

Whalesong · 02/02/2025 17:46

NiceoneSonny · 02/02/2025 17:42

Be careful re her belongings. You can't just dump her stuff. Legally you are required to give her reasonable notice to remove it, and only when the deadline has passed can you dump it. Look up the procedure under the The Torts (Interference with Goods) Act 1977. She sounds like the type who will come after you if you don't follow the correct procedure, and give her an actual written notice and reasonable time to collect her things.

Edited

I don't think that's true since she wasn't paying rent. But yes, they should give her reasonable notice in writing - a week seems more than fair.

oakleaffy · 02/02/2025 17:47

NiceoneSonny · 02/02/2025 17:42

Be careful re her belongings. You can't just dump her stuff. Legally you are required to give her reasonable notice to remove it, and only when the deadline has passed can you dump it. Look up the procedure under the The Torts (Interference with Goods) Act 1977. She sounds like the type who will come after you if you don't follow the correct procedure, and give her an actual written notice and reasonable time to collect her things.

Edited

Is this a thing even when it’s a parasite rather than a genuine tenant?

In which case, couldn’t Op charge storage?
”Yellow Box” storage is very expensive-

I’d imagine the tat that is in Op s garage is clothing, maybe a few books and nothing of value.

Floralnomad · 02/02/2025 17:47

Congratulations @sausagedogmumm

Elsvieta · 02/02/2025 17:51

Pour yourself a big drink and cuddle the cat. Do you know where she went?

ThinWomansBrain · 02/02/2025 17:51

🍷

I hope that her cat is OK though

alteredimage · 02/02/2025 17:51

I too would give her formal and reasonable notice for her to collect her things. Two weeks? If not gone by then you will dispose of them. You have to give her the proceeds less her expenses. She may not be a tenant but they are still her goods. (Lots of landlord guidance on the internet.)

The friendship is over anyway so be clear you mean business.

pictoosh · 02/02/2025 17:51

Well thank god for that. What a relief!

Mind give her a deadline for getting the garage emptied...or the lot gets ditched at the skips.

RealHousewivesOfTaunton · 02/02/2025 17:53

Message her saying she has until Friday to remove her stuff, then it's going to the tip.

JustSawJohnny · 02/02/2025 17:53

So glad to hear she's out, OP!

I'm sure it's a massive relief.

Make sure you do get those locks changed.

Have you checked the legalities of putting her stuff out on the street if she doesn't collect it?

Could you drop the boxes off at her parents house?

ThinWomansBrain · 02/02/2025 17:55

oakleaffy · 02/02/2025 17:47

Is this a thing even when it’s a parasite rather than a genuine tenant?

In which case, couldn’t Op charge storage?
”Yellow Box” storage is very expensive-

I’d imagine the tat that is in Op s garage is clothing, maybe a few books and nothing of value.

Are there any of those "pay £1 for the first six weeks" type storage deals around?
although I suppose you need it to be in her name & payment card rather than yours.

Velmy · 02/02/2025 17:56

sausagedogmumm · 02/02/2025 17:22

and she’s gone! well partly - we still have a garage full of her stuff but that is a message to send this evening but the keys are returned and she is out!

the room is not in a good way but my partner has offered to get the zoflora and anti bac out once he’s fitted our new ring door bell 😂

OP you must, must, must get on Uber Eats for a bottle of wine and a massive celebratory takeaway tonight!

Any make sure she knows that the rest of her stuff will be outside in bin bags on the date agreed and not in your house for a minute longer.

MumWifeOther · 02/02/2025 18:03

She sounds awful! You have done more than enough and she likely could have stayed longer is she respected the very reasonable rules you put in place. She needs to leave and I wouldn’t blame you if you ended the friendship. If she keeps threatening suicide, then report it and maybe she can get some help.

AlphaApple · 02/02/2025 18:07

Where did she go? Just being nosy.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 02/02/2025 18:08

AlphaApple · 02/02/2025 18:07

Where did she go? Just being nosy.

I know me too!

oakleaffy · 02/02/2025 18:11

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 02/02/2025 18:08

I know me too!

She’s on her way to yours right now!
🙀

AngelicKaty · 02/02/2025 18:12

Well done OP. I'm sure you've learned a lesson here - not everyone is as decent and as kind as you and your DP. Now enjoy your home without that CF.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 02/02/2025 18:18

oakleaffy · 02/02/2025 18:11

She’s on her way to yours right now!
🙀

She better not be. I’ve just decorated my spare room!

Purplebunnie · 02/02/2025 18:19

Congratulations, enjoy your freedom and space Hope your kittie feels better soon