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Are there any conspiracy theories you believe in?

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Errors · 22/12/2024 18:07

Inspired by another thread

I find conspiracy theories really interesting. I have never ‘believed’ any of them, more enjoy discussing them and how likely it seems that they could be true. I also think it’s more far fetched to believe that everything we have ever been told or ever will be told is the whole truth.

Are there any CTs you believe in? Lead me down a rabbit hole please!

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Isatis · 22/12/2024 23:53

nellythe · 22/12/2024 18:11

Princess Diana’s death wasn’t a simple accident. Too well timed.

Other than that, I don’t think I believe in many!

Now, that's one that obviously is fiction. If someone wanted to kill her, why would you do it in another country where you couldn't control the police and health authorities, and what do it via a method which she could so easily have survived just by wearing a seat belt.

ThatWarmQuoter · 22/12/2024 23:54

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ChronicallySleepy · 22/12/2024 23:54

Princess Diana, I'll never believe that was an accident

Isatis · 22/12/2024 23:55

I was watching a video of a psychic medium. The medium was channeling madeline.

How would you know that she was channelling Madeline unless you personally knew Madeline?

ICantBelieveItsNotButtercunt · 22/12/2024 23:55

Thindog · 22/12/2024 21:20

Harry isn't royal, he is a love child of Diana's. Charles knows Harry is a Hewitt.
The official line, that Diana and Hewitt started their affair after Harry was born is a lie, people in the village where his mother lived know this.

Madeleine McCann's body was in the apartment, there was no abduction, and sniffer dogs confirmed this.

Harry looks the spit of Prince Phillip though and the timing was off by a mile.

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 23:56

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Hmm not sure. Although possible cloaking technology regarding the plane was mentioned. Another theory mentioned spraying the landed plane into the Russian plane ……which was then hit by that ‘meteorite’ not long after. 🤔

OhMargaret · 22/12/2024 23:57

@ThisCosyAquaHiker These companies know it’s real too.which is why it would be wrong to assume they won’t make a killing from the shift to nuclear and renewables as the market develops. The green economy is already huge business and comes with its own warping of the truth in terms of what actually works, greenwashing etc. It’s also dominated by all the usual
suspects when you look at finance and strategy. Unfortunately, following the money does usually tell you a lot about what’s really going on - whether it’s climate denial or the Bezos Earth Fund. The truth is, a lot of this conflicting information is coming from the same companies - it’s all business to them and the house always wins.

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 23:57

ChronicallySleepy · 22/12/2024 23:54

Princess Diana, I'll never believe that was an accident

I don’t believe she was killed.
I think she’s been alive this entire time.
It would have been totally easy to fake.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 23:57

Isatis · 22/12/2024 23:55

I was watching a video of a psychic medium. The medium was channeling madeline.

How would you know that she was channelling Madeline unless you personally knew Madeline?

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What?

The video was titled

"Channeling madeline mccann".

That's how I knew who she was trying to channel.

Again it's obviously just a psychic mediums viewpoint, it's not fact.

But it was an interesting watch.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 23:57

ChronicallySleepy · 22/12/2024 23:54

Princess Diana, I'll never believe that was an accident

It was too convenient!

If she was alive she would have grown in popularity, and the public never would have accepted Camilla.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 23:58

samarrange · 22/12/2024 23:14

Thanks for the reply. We differ almost entirely on the substance, but it seems we have a point of agreement about the trust.

Can I ask why you have this low degree of trust? (That's if you know — we all have feelings and beliefs that we can't trace the origins of!)

Hard to say but I had a kind of 'spiritual' type awakening 15 years ago, and felt distanced from society who seemed to downplay the spiritual/invisible aspect of life. They also ignored concept of evil, and that very bad eggs exist. Evil people walk amongst us but they appear normal as they act normal.
Some bad experiences with health system destroyed my trust. Stopped trusting pharma and vaccines. Arrogantly gaslit victims.
Then learning about horror of organ donation really disturbed me. That they could openly lie and deceive to victims families
The Covid took the biscuit. Big fat lie.

Christianity is mocked more than any other religion. The Bible was one of the things that gave me solace. I felt it in my spirit. I believe many lies told are done to discredit the bible, which is the ingeniousguideline for life. I believe the deception runs that deep and we are in a spiritual battle. It all goes back to God.

That basically sums it up 😅

StrawberryDream24 · 22/12/2024 23:59

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I also don't know why people think she was worth assassinating, for lack of a better way of phrasing it.

She was off to the side, as it were.. Her love affairs had been a bit of an embarrassment for ages. The prospect of her marrying a Muslim ...so what. The RF had (and would) weather worse than that.

And what of the risk to the mental health of two boys in their formative years .... Who is supposed to have found leaning them with no mother acceptable/necessary? How would they have ever known that it couldn't result ok them going off the rails or even commuting suicide at some point. The heirs to the throne. No-one was risking that to the out a side lined royal who might - if it even got that far - be married to a rich Muslim for as long as it lasted.

Verbena17 · 23/12/2024 00:00

samarrange · 22/12/2024 23:29

What? Of course the pilots can turn off the radar transponder. They can turn off anything. It's very rare to turn off the transponder when in normal flight, but they can do it. In fact sometimes air traffic control will ask them to, depending on traffic.

However, if you enter UK airspace with your transponder turned off, ATC will ask you to turn it on, sharpish, and if not you can expect a couple of Typhoons for company in short order. The 9/11 hijackers also turned off the transponders.

So you think the planes that ‘flew’ into the towers existed?
Three towers completely pulverised (demolition) and yet passports of the ‘perps’ were found in perfect condition to ID the guys.

100’s of structural engineers agree that the towers were taken down….but not by planes.

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 00:00

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 23:57

It was too convenient!

If she was alive she would have grown in popularity, and the public never would have accepted Camilla.

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She would have had a different role.

The RF (or whoever) are not going to brutally deprive the heirs to the throne of their mother in their formative years so CPB can be more popular down the line.

That's ludicrous.

ICantBelieveItsNotButtercunt · 23/12/2024 00:01

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Well, they certainly walk among us.

Moonfasa100 · 23/12/2024 00:02

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 00:00

She would have had a different role.

The RF (or whoever) are not going to brutally deprive the heirs to the throne of their mother in their formative years so CPB can be more popular down the line.

That's ludicrous.

It's not just about Camilla.

If Diana lived, the public would never accept camilla. Remember how utterly hated camilla was back then.

Diana's popularity threatened Camilla, and Diana's popularity also threatened Charles.

Diana was much more popular than Charles back then.

Diana was alos regularly attacking the royal family with books and documentaries.

She was a threat to the royal family.

StrawberryDream24 · 23/12/2024 00:03

Verbena17 · 23/12/2024 00:00

So you think the planes that ‘flew’ into the towers existed?
Three towers completely pulverised (demolition) and yet passports of the ‘perps’ were found in perfect condition to ID the guys.

100’s of structural engineers agree that the towers were taken down….but not by planes.

Structural engineers who know the buildings have explained exactly how they collapsed.

In fact one involved in the design and construction knew they would collapse and tried to warn the authorities, but couldn't get through due to all networks being overwhelmed.

That doesn't fit with batshit CTies though.

Paddingtonscaresme · 23/12/2024 00:03

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Don't be ridiculous. Anything inside the aircraft can be switched off. Transponders have gone wrong in the past, once even basically jamming all ATC communications within a certain area. Pilots are generally trusted people. They can control everything on the flight deck.

Moonfasa100 · 23/12/2024 00:03

ICantBelieveItsNotButtercunt · 23/12/2024 00:01

Well, they certainly walk among us.

Who? The psychic mediums?

Lots of people go to see a psychic medium.

My friend just went to see a medium after her son died

Isatis · 23/12/2024 00:04

That is correct in a way. I have very little trust if I cant see it myself. I believe there is a spiritual side to everything, and the fact that Hollywood and media mock Christianity makes me even more distrustful of mainstream media sources

How do you manage to trust in the existence of Christ, given that you've never seen him?

Sunhatweather · 23/12/2024 00:07

I absolutely believed in the moon landings until I went to the NASA space centre in Houston. I came out doubting that the technology of the time was capable and same for the early space craft.

Over40Overdating · 23/12/2024 00:07

I think conspiracy theorists are a conspiracy theory.

Who benefits from a group of people so convinced of their own intelligence despite variable facts contrary to what they are thinking.
Of people so suspicious of absolutely everything they call conspiracy when 9/10 cock up would cover it.
Who distrust any mainstream news, science or fact yet will trust randoms on the internet. Who isolate themselves from the mainstream and feel proud that this isolation makes them special.
If I wanted to test how gullible and manipulateable people were, I wouldn’t use a lockdown to do it. I would use conspiracy theory rhetoric.

As for Diana was murdered - why?
I remember the attitude to Diana before she died. It wasn’t that she was an all powerful tool who could take down the monarchy and was feared for her power with the people.
She was seen as a joke. As a silly, vacuous, embarrassment. Had she lived she would not have been hailed the saint she was in death. She would eventually have been rehabilitated in the public eye in the same way Fergie was and then turned back into tabloid fodder as a rival to her daughters in law.
She really was never important enough to be the subject of a murder and massive, decades long cover up.

samarrange · 23/12/2024 00:07

The brilliant thing about a conspiracy belief is that holding it usually has no cost to the holder (other than perhaps being told not to be so silly).

For example, if you believe that the moon landings were faked, or even that the earth is flat, this will have no practical consequences for you. You can still go on holiday to Spain, because fortunately for you the pilot flying the plane doesn't believe that they can calculate the distance better than using a great circle model, or that general relativity — which is involved in making GPS work — isn't real.

Ditto with JFK or Diana — there are no stakes involved in being wrong about their deaths. Even if Madeleine McCann turns up alive tomorrow, the absolute worst that will happen to the people claiming that her parents were responsible for her death is that their friends might take the piss a bit. (And of course there would be a million people ready to believe that it wasn't really her, and that her so-called reappearance was "very conveniently timed to distracted us from the inflation figures".)

So the appeal is obvious. You get to appear to be interesting, to know something that other people don't. You're no fool, you've done your research (by which you mean that you've watched other conspiracy fans on YouTube — not that you've actually gone and gathered any primary data, or learned how trigonometry works, or anything actually demanding like that). And if anyone points out a part of the story that doesn't fit, there's now a whole support network on hand to come up with a plausible-sounding excuse. That might not convince the sceptic, but it doesn't have to. It only has to convince you that you are right, to keep the warm feeling going.

The problem is that the casualty of all this is truth in general. You end up being an assistant in Steve Bannon's plan to "flood the field with shit". You become a useful idiot in the undermining of the actual truth by the genuinely bad actors of the world.

Moonfasa100 · 23/12/2024 00:08

Isatis · 23/12/2024 00:04

That is correct in a way. I have very little trust if I cant see it myself. I believe there is a spiritual side to everything, and the fact that Hollywood and media mock Christianity makes me even more distrustful of mainstream media sources

How do you manage to trust in the existence of Christ, given that you've never seen him?

Because a lot of historical records document his existence.

ICantBelieveItsNotButtercunt · 23/12/2024 00:08

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 23:09

Ok, here’s my next one 😉…

The past 4+ yrs have basically been a movie 🍿.
Many people believe that DJT did not lose the 2020 election but instead, put emergency measures in place prior to the (fake) Sleepy Joe inauguration, for the ‘continuation of government’, in order to carry out the clearing up of the Deepstate.

In fact, many people believe DJT has been the CIC for this whole time….making it appear Sleepy Joe was the President when in fact, DJT and the military have been draining the very deep swamp, covertly.

Something to do with Washington DC not being the same country as the rest of the USA, which is true. Washington DC, The City of London & The Vatican have never been part of the countries in which they are located geographically.

Check out DJT’s speech where he explains ‘the Pause’.
Ive just tried to link it but it’s not copying

What I’ve noticed is whenever someone says ‘many believe’ or ‘many think’ it’s usually many bollocks that’s follows.

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