Page 37 | To not let my sister bring her own meat on Christmas day!

FelizNavidadAmiga · 2024-12-20T21:33:11+00:00

First off, we are a strictly vegan household for moral reasons. I invited my sister for Christmas lunch as she is recently divorced and has nowhere else to go. I usually put on a magnificent spread with roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc. My sister has just sent me a message saying she's going to bring her own chicken to cook. AIBU to say no way! I don't want chicken cooking in my nice clean vegan oven! Plus the smell makes me feel ill 🤢 I don't want to upset her as she's very sensitive at the moment but surely she can do without chicken for 1 day.

SouthLondonMum22 · 21/12/2024 23:40

user1471516498 · 21/12/2024 20:19

Surely it is only polite to refrain from eating animal products if you are eating with someone who is vegan. Even in a restaurant I would not eat meat or dairy if I was with someone who was vegan because I wouldn't want to put them off their food. Surely everybody does this. (PS I am not vegan myself).

I think it needs to work both ways. I wouldn't expect to eat animal products at a vegans house but at a restaurant? I think vegans either need to accept that not everyone else is vegan or only go to restaurants with other vegans but if I'm paying for my meal, I'm ordering what I want and it probably isn't going to be vegan.

The vegans I know wouldn't expect any different either.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:42

OldScribbler · 21/12/2024 18:27

If you go to someone else's place you eat what they serve. It is only polite.

Mind you in my long life many things I was taught were polite have fallen by the wayside.

A simple example is that people now write "Me and ..." at the start of sentences. I was always taught to put the other person's name first. Without being melodramatic I think how we speak or write reflects how we behave.

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They're still as grammatically incorrect as ever they were.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:45

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 19:01

These are the same people who so coyly talk about meat cooking in its own “juices”.

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Yummmm, I love meat cooking in its own juices. And using said juices to make delicious gravy!

So looking forward to turkey and ham flavoured gravies. Can't beat them with crispy, powdery roasties and honey glazed carrots!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:46

Cariadm · 21/12/2024 19:03

Basically that's as bad as actually cooking it there?! 🙄To even expect it to be OK to bring meat into a vegan household where you have been invited to eat shows a lack of respect and is verging on rude...😮

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To demand that a meat eater has to eat nothing but your vegan stuff is more than rude.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:48

soupfiend · 21/12/2024 19:19

I am amazed at the number of people who think that ME food is something really 'out there' and different and not every day or people that are hugely offended by houmous and food cooked in a tagine or think stuffed peppers and vine leaves are extraordinary.

I'd literally starve to death before I'd eat that.

It would actually make me sick. I couldn't stomach any of it.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:49

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/12/2024 19:22

Got to be one of the daftest posts I’ve read. 😳😳

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It's fair to say! How is it "daft"??

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:51

Whatinthedoopla · 21/12/2024 20:12

Just say that you can't handle the smell, and that you would have to get the oven professionally cleaned after. She can bring it already cooked, if you are okay with that...

"Have to have the oven professionally cleaned"... FFS!

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 23:52

pinkyredrose · 21/12/2024 18:31

Does she know that meat eaters also eat veggie/vegan food?

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Does she know that meat eaters also eat veggie/vegan food?

It seems to be a surprising concept to many posters.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:52

rainbowunicorn · 21/12/2024 20:38

I agree. It would seem that some mumsnetters have quite small worlds when it comes to food.

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And???

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:54

Words · 21/12/2024 20:47

I agree with others who say that the menu, although I'm sure very nice, doesn't feel very celebratory. The dishes are pretty standard, although of course am sure will taste good.

I will eat anything but have preferences, and good vegan recipes tend to compensate for lack of depth of flavour with complicated spicing, which doesn't appeal. There also seems to be a lack of textural contrast. I've never enjoyed falafel- not for want of trying!

The huge variety of roast veg described by a pp sounds on the other hand, divine!

Could you cook an extra dish op as a centrepiece? Claudia Rodin is a good shout as is Ottolenghi.

Failing that, let her bring some slices of roast chicken and warm them in the microwave. It's very nice with hummus, and the roast / stuffed veg will also go ok.

Sure she would have to fumigate her microwave as it would be totally polluted!!!!

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 23:54

rainbowunicorn · 21/12/2024 20:38

I agree. It would seem that some mumsnetters have quite small worlds when it comes to food.

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Thirded.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 21/12/2024 23:59

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 23:54

Thirded.

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I refuse to eat food that makes me heave to please anyone. The food the OP is suggesting would literally turn my stomach.

What do you militant vegans do when you go to a restaurant? Does the smell of cooking meat not upset you there? Or is it only in your own home?

I hope the OP's sister sees this post and see how her sister has allowed posters to pull her choice apart. And realises that having a sister who puts her comfort so low on her list of priorities that she can't suck it up for the sake of a little bit of chicken on Christmas Day when she is on her own and feeling sad, really isn't worth spending the day with.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 00:01

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 23:54

Thirded.

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So what? People know what they like and what they don't like to eat, so what's the problem???

I don't why the OP bothered to invite her sister if she wasn't willing to accommodate what she likes to eat.

Orders76 · 22/12/2024 00:07

One poster said that when you go to someone's house, manners dictate that you eat their food and most people make a range that veggies or vegans can eat, this is how I was brought up and anyone who knows we're veggie makes an effort and we dine on what they cook.
However, I've been at a house party where the host spent all day cooking, for a guest to turn up with what seemed like a dish, then ask the host to serve it just for them when everyone was eating. The height of rudeness and you could see anyone in earshot thought so.
No dietary issues on the rude person's part, or objections to the menu.

Redmat · 22/12/2024 00:09

I have vegan friends. I cook vegan for them and eat vegan when I go there. They presume that this will be the case. I do wonder why they can't put a hunk of cheese on their table for me . Not sure why in many cases a vegans diet always trumps everybody else's .

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 22/12/2024 00:10

What do you militant vegans do when you go to a restaurant? Does the smell of cooking meat not upset you there? Or is it only in your own home?

I'm not a "militant vegan". I'm not even vegetarian, far less vegan. I'm simply mystified why so many posters are so ignorant about, and apparently petrified by, anything which isn't a roast dinner and two vegs.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 00:10

Orders76 · 22/12/2024 00:07

One poster said that when you go to someone's house, manners dictate that you eat their food and most people make a range that veggies or vegans can eat, this is how I was brought up and anyone who knows we're veggie makes an effort and we dine on what they cook.
However, I've been at a house party where the host spent all day cooking, for a guest to turn up with what seemed like a dish, then ask the host to serve it just for them when everyone was eating. The height of rudeness and you could see anyone in earshot thought so.
No dietary issues on the rude person's part, or objections to the menu.

Any decent host should make sure that their guests are going to enjoy whatever fare is on offer.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 00:14

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 22/12/2024 00:10

What do you militant vegans do when you go to a restaurant? Does the smell of cooking meat not upset you there? Or is it only in your own home?

I'm not a "militant vegan". I'm not even vegetarian, far less vegan. I'm simply mystified why so many posters are so ignorant about, and apparently petrified by, anything which isn't a roast dinner and two vegs.

You might not be but there's plenty of them on this thread.

I have complete antipathy to any veg bar potatoes and carrots. I don't know why. I just do and always have. I couldn't bring myself to eat them on pain of death. The very thought makes me sick.

I don't only eat a "roast dinner and two vegs" but I absolutely could not eat what the OP is planning on cooking. I'm not ignorant about it - I just can't make myself eat anything I don't like.

In fact, I don't eat a roast dinner all that often any more.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 22/12/2024 00:22

Although I said I'm not a "militant vegan" (whatever that might be) I wouldn't allow someone to bring and cook their own chicken. I hate the smell of roast turkey, chicken and pork.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 00:25

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 22/12/2024 00:22

Although I said I'm not a "militant vegan" (whatever that might be) I wouldn't allow someone to bring and cook their own chicken. I hate the smell of roast turkey, chicken and pork.

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Well then you are militant. How do you cope in a restaurant where people are eating chicken, pork, steak etc?

I hate the smell of curry. I don't prevent my family eating it. Just deal with it!

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 22/12/2024 00:30

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 00:25

Well then you are militant. How do you cope in a restaurant where people are eating chicken, pork, steak etc?

I hate the smell of curry. I don't prevent my family eating it. Just deal with it!

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Oh come off it. Being in a restaurant is nothing like the smell of roasting meat in your own kitchen in your own house.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 22/12/2024 00:32

And I wouldn't go to carveries or steakhouses. I'm not interested in that type of food.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 00:35

Bullshit. When you are in a restaurant, you are in and around the cooking smells, and the smells of other people's meals at their tables.

I don't go to carveries or steakhouses either for the record. Most restaurants provide a variety of fare, so I don't know how you are supposed to avoid the odours of the foods you dislike.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 22/12/2024 00:53

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 00:35

Bullshit. When you are in a restaurant, you are in and around the cooking smells, and the smells of other people's meals at their tables.

I don't go to carveries or steakhouses either for the record. Most restaurants provide a variety of fare, so I don't know how you are supposed to avoid the odours of the foods you dislike.

Utter nonsense. The smell from the food at another diner's table is nothing like cooking smells in your own kitchen permeating through your house.

BrightonFrock · 22/12/2024 00:54

I hope the OP's sister sees this post and see how her sister has allowed posters to pull her choice apart. And realises that having a sister who puts her comfort so low on her list of priorities that she can't suck it up for the sake of a little bit of chicken on Christmas Day when she is on her own and feeling sad, really isn't worth spending the day with.

Bloody hell, you’re really over egging the pudding now 😆😆 I can just picture the OP’s sister, all alone in a freezing cold room, clutching her rags and sobbing to herself “All I wanted was a little bit of chicken”.