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To not let my sister bring her own meat on Christmas day!

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FelizNavidadAmiga · 20/12/2024 21:33

First off, we are a strictly vegan household for moral reasons. I invited my sister for Christmas lunch as she is recently divorced and has nowhere else to go. I usually put on a magnificent spread with roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc. My sister has just sent me a message saying she's going to bring her own chicken to cook. AIBU to say no way! I don't want chicken cooking in my nice clean vegan oven! Plus the smell makes me feel ill 🤢 I don't want to upset her as she's very sensitive at the moment but surely she can do without chicken for 1 day.

OP posts:
OldScribbler · 21/12/2024 18:27

ElinAlma · 20/12/2024 21:36

Not unreasonable to say no.
But unreasonable to call this food: roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc, a magnificent spread.

That's very bog standard food and not anything magnificent for a festive meal.

Edited

If you go to someone else's place you eat what they serve. It is only polite.

Mind you in my long life many things I was taught were polite have fallen by the wayside.

A simple example is that people now write "Me and ..." at the start of sentences. I was always taught to put the other person's name first. Without being melodramatic I think how we speak or write reflects how we behave.

pinkyredrose · 21/12/2024 18:30

Makingchocolatecake · 21/12/2024 15:43

Is she bringing the rest of her Christmas Dinner or just the chicken?

No offence but your menu doesn't sound Christmassy at all! Sounds yummy for an evening Xmas day meal though, I have no problem with vegan food but would want my proper Xmas dinner!

Do your family eat the standard roast potatoes, veg, stuffing etc?

Edited

The 'standard' Christmas dinner varies in different countries.

pinkyredrose · 21/12/2024 18:31

Matildahoney · 21/12/2024 18:26

@BrightonFrock vegans choose to eat that way, no one is forced to. I choose to eat meat, I don't enjoy a
As an aside I have one sil who is vegan and one who is vegetarian and they both cater for meat eaters because they're reasonable human beings and would like the same courtesy extended to them.

Does she know that meat eaters also eat veggie/vegan food?

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 21/12/2024 18:40

If you go to someone else's place you eat what they serve. It is only polite.

What if you don’t like it? Surely no one forces themselves to eat food they hate just to be polite?

NellieJean · 21/12/2024 18:42

It’s your house your rules. Except of course when it’s the other way round. We have people staying who have all sorts of dietary requirements and don’t mind a bit accommodating them but it is a one way street.

NellieJean · 21/12/2024 18:46

RosesAndHellebores · 20/12/2024 21:39

Hmm. We are big meat eaters. On no planet would we suggest taking a ham joint to a Jewish household. What your sister suggests parallels that. Not on.

If one is invited to friends/family one accepts what is served with good grace. End. Of.

Unless of course you are a vegan or vegetarian visiting a meat eating household when you will expect them to cater for your needs something by the way I have no problem doing.

Conniebygaslight · 21/12/2024 18:47

ElinAlma · 20/12/2024 21:36

Not unreasonable to say no.
But unreasonable to call this food: roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc, a magnificent spread.

That's very bog standard food and not anything magnificent for a festive meal.

Edited

Miaow!

Bumblebeestiltskin · 21/12/2024 18:53

IdylicDay · 21/12/2024 18:02

heaving with animals carcasses

And this right here, this immature, vulgar, crass response is exactly why vegans have the bad rep they have. Please grow up and stop acting like a 9 year old. FFS.

Interesting that you're so triggered by this 🤔

Can you explain what, specifically, makes it immature, vulgar, or crass? And why a stranger giving their opinion on the internet upsets you so much.

The dictionary definition of carcass is 'the dead body of an animal'.

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 19:00

NellieJean · 21/12/2024 18:46

Unless of course you are a vegan or vegetarian visiting a meat eating household when you will expect them to cater for your needs something by the way I have no problem doing.

Sigh… that little wheel just won’t turn today, will it?

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 19:01

Bumblebeestiltskin · 21/12/2024 18:53

Interesting that you're so triggered by this 🤔

Can you explain what, specifically, makes it immature, vulgar, or crass? And why a stranger giving their opinion on the internet upsets you so much.

The dictionary definition of carcass is 'the dead body of an animal'.

These are the same people who so coyly talk about meat cooking in its own “juices”.

Cariadm · 21/12/2024 19:03

Lollypop701 · 20/12/2024 21:35

Could she bring it cooked and reheat it?

Basically that's as bad as actually cooking it there?! 🙄To even expect it to be OK to bring meat into a vegan household where you have been invited to eat shows a lack of respect and is verging on rude...😮

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 19:03

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 21/12/2024 18:40

If you go to someone else's place you eat what they serve. It is only polite.

What if you don’t like it? Surely no one forces themselves to eat food they hate just to be polite?

You say thank you for the invitation, but that there isn’t really much you’d eat on that menu, so you’ll catch up with them another time. Not difficult.

NellieJean · 21/12/2024 19:04

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 19:00

Sigh… that little wheel just won’t turn today, will it?

What’s untrue about that statement?

bk1981 · 21/12/2024 19:04

You're not unreasonable to say no meat but your menu isn't exactly a traditional Christmasy menu. It sounds nice, but not what I'd want on Christmas day. I'd do something like lentil loaf that can be served with roasties and sprouts etc so she still feels festive.

Mum2jenny · 21/12/2024 19:07

bk1981 · 21/12/2024 19:04

You're not unreasonable to say no meat but your menu isn't exactly a traditional Christmasy menu. It sounds nice, but not what I'd want on Christmas day. I'd do something like lentil loaf that can be served with roasties and sprouts etc so she still feels festive.

I’d prefer the OPs offering rather than ‘lentil loaf’, sounds not very nice.

LouDeLou · 21/12/2024 19:10

Bet you’d expect a vegan meal if she’d invited you…

soupfiend · 21/12/2024 19:11

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 21/12/2024 16:39

No it isn't. Don't you understand the reasons people choose to be vegan?

It's very narrow- minded to think a meal isn't a meal without meat or that vegetables are just a support act for meat. How limiting.

Its just personal preference, its not limiting or the opposite

The persons reasons for being vegan, arent any more or less valid than a persons reason for not being vegan. One isnt more important than the other.

So if a person thinks that they prefer meat to be their centre piece and anything else is just the side and accompaniment, it isnt for anyone else to question that. Its bizarre to think otherwise.

If a person doesnt want to eat meat or any animal products it isnt for anyone else to question that either.

HaddyAbrams · 21/12/2024 19:15

OldScribbler · 21/12/2024 18:27

If you go to someone else's place you eat what they serve. It is only polite.

Mind you in my long life many things I was taught were polite have fallen by the wayside.

A simple example is that people now write "Me and ..." at the start of sentences. I was always taught to put the other person's name first. Without being melodramatic I think how we speak or write reflects how we behave.

I was taught this too. But I was also taught that as the host, you make sure you're cooking something your guests like.

Jayne35 · 21/12/2024 19:16

Just tell her no, you can’t cater for her if you don’t want to. I eat meat but enjoy loads of vegetarian meals, I have tried lots of vegan food but really don’t like it. Apart from roast veg and stuffed peppers I would not like the rest of the menu.

Jumpers4goalposts · 21/12/2024 19:16

I’d just say she can bring her precooked chicken but she can’t cook it at yours.

soupfiend · 21/12/2024 19:19

I am amazed at the number of people who think that ME food is something really 'out there' and different and not every day or people that are hugely offended by houmous and food cooked in a tagine or think stuffed peppers and vine leaves are extraordinary.

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/12/2024 19:20

Your menu sounds lovely and she needs to respect your values.

im a meat eater who loves chicken but it does stink the house out so I understand why you don’t want it.

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/12/2024 19:22

LouDeLou · 21/12/2024 19:10

Bet you’d expect a vegan meal if she’d invited you…

Got to be one of the daftest posts I’ve read. 😳😳

housethatbuiltme · 21/12/2024 19:24

I'm veggie so wouldn't bring meat but I do have to agree with other PP as a life long veggie the only thing on your list I eat is roast veg (and maybe fallafal but I wouldn't really have it as more than a snack). The rest is bloody awful, I despise tangine, stuffed peppers and hummus and would go hungry instead.

Honestly as someone veggie for over 3 decades a stuffed pepper is the thing of bloody nightmares, it was the awful lazy veg option no one ever liked but got forced on us all through the 90s.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/12/2024 19:28

soupfiend · 21/12/2024 19:19

I am amazed at the number of people who think that ME food is something really 'out there' and different and not every day or people that are hugely offended by houmous and food cooked in a tagine or think stuffed peppers and vine leaves are extraordinary.

I know! It's been an eye opener for me. I've lived for over 40 years in London and never been far from a decent restaurant set up by people who've moved here from all round the Mediterranean and the Middle East. Glorious, glorious food. Claudia Roden's Middle Eastern Food is one of my favourite cookbooks, full of fascinating social and culinary history as well as recipes.

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