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To remove the toilet from the en suite?

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:29

I’m interested in how people would react if buying a house with an en-suite shower room instead of a more traditional complete en-suite with shower, toilet and basin.

Current set up:
Four bedroom house.

Main family bathroom has toilet, basin, bath with shower over.

Master bedroom has en-suite with toilet, basin and small shower cubicle.

There is a downstairs loo off the hall.

What I want to do:
Remove toilet from the en-suite and replace the shower cubicle with a nice big walk- in shower (not a wet room, a bigger contained modern shower enclosure).

I know MN has Opinions on en-suites and hates the idea of ‘poo-ing off your bedroom’ - but my question is:

YABU - an en-suite should have a toilet

YANBU - a shower room off the master bedroom is much better

I’m a firm believer in having your house how you want it but am thinking of how buyers would react when I do come to sell.

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Weyohweyoh · 20/12/2024 18:31

I wouldn’t buy a house with a toiletless en suite. I have to get up to pee in the night far too often for that!

TeenToTwenties · 20/12/2024 18:32

Do what you want.
Then revert it back to traditional set up as and when you want to sell.

ComtesseDeSpair · 20/12/2024 18:32

I hate en suites, but I think most people who like and want an en suite appreciate the convenience of not having to walk along the landing to the toilet, so an en suite without one would seem an oddity to them.

I think in the grander scheme of things, if your house is otherwise ticking all the boxes then it wouldn’t be a massive deal for many potential buyers, but there are always going to be those for whom it would be a dealbreaker.

MajorCarolDanvers · 20/12/2024 18:32

I wouldn’t buy it.

AnathemaPulsifer · 20/12/2024 18:32

If the shower is too small to be pleasant to use, I would still rather keep the toilet.

minipie · 20/12/2024 18:33

As pp says my main reason for liking an en suite is for the night time wees. So one without would be kind of annoying.

Pootles34 · 20/12/2024 18:33

I would buy it if the soil pipe was there and it would be easy enough to reinstate.

mynameiscalypso · 20/12/2024 18:33

I'd definitely want a loo. I quite often need the toilet when I'm going to have a shower and it would be a pain to go between the two rooms.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:33

TeenToTwenties · 20/12/2024 18:32

Do what you want.
Then revert it back to traditional set up as and when you want to sell.

Always an option!

The new shower would run across the whole back of the room. Currently the toilet and the really quite tiny shower cubicle are next to each other along the back wall. So the new shower tray would go over the capped-off toilet pipe, I suppose.

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:35

AnathemaPulsifer · 20/12/2024 18:32

If the shower is too small to be pleasant to use, I would still rather keep the toilet.

It really is too small. It never gets used. I would be in it every day with my posh hotel vibes if I had a lovely big shower.

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Heronwatcher · 20/12/2024 18:35

I’d prefer a toilet and small shower. It wouldn’t be a deal breaker but it would definitely strike me as odd and I’d have to factor in the expense of replacing it to my offer.

Didimum · 20/12/2024 18:37

I’d see this as a significant negative to a 4 bed house with only one full bathroom.

Heronwatcher · 20/12/2024 18:37

Could you maybe think about a wet room or changing something else- like a toilet with basin on top- to save some space?

Nevervisible · 20/12/2024 18:38

Personally I would prefer to keep the toilet in the en suite but I firmly believe in having the set up that you want for yourself without considering what future buyers might want.
My experience of selling houses is that people buy properties not so much on how they are when they view them but how they envisage what they will be like when they have modified them to how they want them to be.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:39

Didimum · 20/12/2024 18:37

I’d see this as a significant negative to a 4 bed house with only one full bathroom.

One family bathroom with shower over bath

One (new) shower room

Two toilets (one upstairs and one downstairs)

Currently three toilets including the one in the en-suite.

It’s the loss of the toilet that causes the negative for you?

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Moversnotshakers · 20/12/2024 18:40

We've just done rhe opposite removed the small shower in the en suite and got nice loo, sink drawer unit and storage wall cupboard on where the shower was. We do have a large walk in shower in main bathroom though..

Bushmillsbabe · 20/12/2024 18:40

Can you change the shower in the main bathroom instead? Our ensuite is tiny but main bathroom quite big, so we put a lovely big shower in there instead, and if I'm having a long shower I use that one, and if I'm having a quick wash I use our ensuite shower.
Not having a toilet in the ensuite would definitely be a deal breaker for me. At bedtime one of our children does shower toilet and teeth in ours and 1 in the main bathroom which makes life so much quicker and easier. If I'm in the main bathroom there is still a toilet upstairs if someone needs to go.
But ultimately it depends if you think likely to sell. We are in our forever home and are doing what suits us as we don't intend to ever leave our home .

UndermyShoeJoe · 20/12/2024 18:40

Any chance or loosing a bit of bedroom to make it big enough for both?

However much I wouldn’t want people pooping in there for night time wee’s or when someone else is hogging other bathrooms I’d want the toilet.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:40

Heronwatcher · 20/12/2024 18:37

Could you maybe think about a wet room or changing something else- like a toilet with basin on top- to save some space?

That’s a very good shout. The nice new shower could then run along the left hand side of the room, the toilet stays where it is but a better one with basin on top. I like your thinking @Heronwatcher!

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mynameiscalypso · 20/12/2024 18:41

I also think that two toilets for a four bed house isn't ideal (although clearly many people cope with it just fine!). It would put me off for sure though

SiobhanSharpe · 20/12/2024 18:41

It's funny -- we have a spacious en-suite with loo but during the night I tend to walk a few steps further to the main bathroom.
I can only think it's because the ensuite is on the further side of the room than the side where I get out of the bed. (It may be that I can't be arsed to turn twice to get around the bed...)

5128gap · 20/12/2024 18:42

I use the toilet in my en suite more than I use the shower and woukd prefer to share a shower with family members than a toilet, so it would be seriously off putting for me.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:42

Bushmillsbabe · 20/12/2024 18:40

Can you change the shower in the main bathroom instead? Our ensuite is tiny but main bathroom quite big, so we put a lovely big shower in there instead, and if I'm having a long shower I use that one, and if I'm having a quick wash I use our ensuite shower.
Not having a toilet in the ensuite would definitely be a deal breaker for me. At bedtime one of our children does shower toilet and teeth in ours and 1 in the main bathroom which makes life so much quicker and easier. If I'm in the main bathroom there is still a toilet upstairs if someone needs to go.
But ultimately it depends if you think likely to sell. We are in our forever home and are doing what suits us as we don't intend to ever leave our home .

I really don’t want to lose the bath in the main bathroom as I am a total mermaid and I soak in it for ages! There isn’t space for a separate walk-in shower AND the bath, sadly.

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:44

UndermyShoeJoe · 20/12/2024 18:40

Any chance or loosing a bit of bedroom to make it big enough for both?

However much I wouldn’t want people pooping in there for night time wee’s or when someone else is hogging other bathrooms I’d want the toilet.

With the layout of the house, not an option. I am conscious A Diagram should have been provided 😁

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Crazybaby123 · 20/12/2024 18:51

Unless you are planning to sell in a year thrn do what you want. Or one option could be to keep plumbing for a toilet but boxbit in so it woule be easy to add a toilet in the future. People saying they would dismiss a whole house because of this feature, I can't believe they are telling the truth. I think people choose houses for many reasons but this surely would be the very bottom of the list as it can be changed easily.