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To remove the toilet from the en suite?

165 replies

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:29

I’m interested in how people would react if buying a house with an en-suite shower room instead of a more traditional complete en-suite with shower, toilet and basin.

Current set up:
Four bedroom house.

Main family bathroom has toilet, basin, bath with shower over.

Master bedroom has en-suite with toilet, basin and small shower cubicle.

There is a downstairs loo off the hall.

What I want to do:
Remove toilet from the en-suite and replace the shower cubicle with a nice big walk- in shower (not a wet room, a bigger contained modern shower enclosure).

I know MN has Opinions on en-suites and hates the idea of ‘poo-ing off your bedroom’ - but my question is:

YABU - an en-suite should have a toilet

YANBU - a shower room off the master bedroom is much better

I’m a firm believer in having your house how you want it but am thinking of how buyers would react when I do come to sell.

OP posts:
Eenameenadeeka · 20/12/2024 22:05

If you don't have plans to move in the near future I think you should do whatever you want, and have your home the way you like. I wouldn't want an ensuite without a toilet personally. We mostly use the main shower because it's bigger and easier to just clean one shower, I'd definitely prioritize the toilet personally.

ThisCosyAquaHiker · 20/12/2024 22:08

Have a toilet installed inside the shower - think of the time saving potential!

soundsys · 20/12/2024 22:14

I would love this but looks like I'm in a minority!

Crojo · 20/12/2024 22:14

We had a similar situation with our en suite, the room was spacious but the toilet was squashed in beside a tiny raised shower cubicle. We moved the toilet to a different position, would that be an option? It wasn't difficult to do plumbing wise.

MoreHappy · 20/12/2024 22:19

Are all four bedrooms on the same level? If yes you would have one toilet for four bedrooms? (yes I know there is a toilet downstairs but not convenient during the night).

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:29

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 21:31

There isn’t an option to make it ‘longer’ towards the loo. Or more than about six inches ‘wider’ towards the basin. But yes, you’re right, there is a bit more floor space to play with than the current quite high shower tray ‘capsule’.

Is your shower currently in a 'capsule'? I think that might be your issue - they do feel very claustrophobic.
Could make the shower tray same height as floor, so it feels more 'walk in'
and then use a glass door but for only half of it so it doesn't feel tight. Like this clever person has done in their beautiful en-suite, (not me). Very simple, doesn't use much space.

To remove the toilet from the en suite?
MereDintofPandiculation · 20/12/2024 22:49

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:39

One family bathroom with shower over bath

One (new) shower room

Two toilets (one upstairs and one downstairs)

Currently three toilets including the one in the en-suite.

It’s the loss of the toilet that causes the negative for you?

Two toilets isn't many for a four bedroomed house, we're running on two toilets at the moment, it was easier when we had three.

Can't you do a wet room with a smaller shower area?

MereDintofPandiculation · 20/12/2024 22:51

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:29

Is your shower currently in a 'capsule'? I think that might be your issue - they do feel very claustrophobic.
Could make the shower tray same height as floor, so it feels more 'walk in'
and then use a glass door but for only half of it so it doesn't feel tight. Like this clever person has done in their beautiful en-suite, (not me). Very simple, doesn't use much space.

Edited

Yes, that's what we've done (though the shower area is full height). The whole room is only 5ft wide (maybe less), but the shower area doesn't feel in the least cramped.

Dogsintheyard · 20/12/2024 22:53

Please don’t put a wet room on an upper floor….

Bloonket · 20/12/2024 22:55

Spend some time researching small en-suite bathrooms.
A more modern shower room, without the “tray” and a more modern glass pivot door can help perhaps gain another inch or so.

There are more compact toilets, ones on an angle from a corner etc than can get you another inch. Good planning, and use of compact fittings will get you more.

Shower room, in bedroom without toilet will put off buyers. When you want to sell, you want it sold quickly. You never know.

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:57

MereDintofPandiculation · 20/12/2024 22:51

Yes, that's what we've done (though the shower area is full height). The whole room is only 5ft wide (maybe less), but the shower area doesn't feel in the least cramped.

Yes you don't need as much space as you might imagine, let's see a diagram OP!

I'm sure you can have all 3 things and feel very spacious !

Needanewjob101 · 20/12/2024 22:58

I seem to be in the minority here but I would actually love this! I do hate the idea of ensuites usually though as don't need to hear my partner pooing in the bedroom

Shoemadlady · 20/12/2024 23:20

Have a look at the space saving toilets. It's a loo underneath and a basin above the cistern. You could have one of those and a shower as you wouldn't need a separate hand basin then.

ConstanceM · 21/12/2024 00:57

3 toilets in a house wins all day long. You can't have an ensuite without a toilet, it's like having a fry up without sausages. The first thing a buyer will ask is "Where's the toilet?", I've never heard anyone think or say it's like pooing in the room. Fans and or windows solve that. En suites came in very handy during noravirus, try running across the house demented, all night day, vomitting and pooing the bug out. Keep the bog.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 06:53

soundsys · 20/12/2024 22:14

I would love this but looks like I'm in a minority!

There are about five of us and yes, I’m surprised at the strong toilet love and very glad I asked!

OP posts:
EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 06:56

MoreHappy · 20/12/2024 22:19

Are all four bedrooms on the same level? If yes you would have one toilet for four bedrooms? (yes I know there is a toilet downstairs but not convenient during the night).

Correct @MoreHappy the bedrooms are all on the same level. Two on each side of the main bathroom, essentially.

OP posts:
EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 06:57

Dogsintheyard · 20/12/2024 22:53

Please don’t put a wet room on an upper floor….

Agreed, it wouldn’t be a wet room.

OP posts:
EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 07:03

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:29

Is your shower currently in a 'capsule'? I think that might be your issue - they do feel very claustrophobic.
Could make the shower tray same height as floor, so it feels more 'walk in'
and then use a glass door but for only half of it so it doesn't feel tight. Like this clever person has done in their beautiful en-suite, (not me). Very simple, doesn't use much space.

Edited

That style of walk-in shower is what I’m wanting, @GreengrassofW 😍

It’s a square room. In the bottom right corner is the door.
Top right is the toilet. Window along the right hand wall.
Bottom left area is basin.
Radiator along bottom wall (would change to a towel rail).
Pokey shower cubicle in top left corner currently. Next to the toilet.

OP posts:
HoppingPavlova · 21/12/2024 07:06

Nope. I need to go several times a night and have done for decades (thanks kids!), and I rely on a toilet in the ensuite close by so it would be a dealbreaker for me.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 21/12/2024 07:09

Maboscelar · 20/12/2024 21:58

I'm not an en suite fan so I would change it into a walk in wardrobe.
Just chucking a curveball in.

All bedrooms have one or two built in wardrobes so I wouldn’t favour losing a toilet for a dressing room. And it would then be a four bed house with only one bathroom which I can see from this thread wouldn’t be desirable.

OP posts:
NotThatWitty · 21/12/2024 07:38

We actually saw a house like this, an ensuite with just a shower and basin and no toilet, just before we bought our current house. We didn't put an offer in. My reasoning was that I shower/bath once a day, but I use the toilet a lot more, and therefore the toilet was a bigger priority for me than the shower. DH and I discussed it after we viewed it, and considered how much it would be to put a toilet in (as if we chose that house that would have been an extra cost for us to consider), but just decided against it.

As PPs have mentioned, you live there and so it needs to work for you. If you decide to sell in the future, it just needs to be priced right, and someone will buy it. You just need to be aware that people will likely consider the cost of changing the ensuite back to a more traditional set-up when they make offers.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 09:02

Dogsintheyard · 20/12/2024 22:53

Please don’t put a wet room on an upper floor….

Done properly, there should be no problem. The only floods I've known have been from bathrooms/shower rooms that weren't wet rooms.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 09:02

GreengrassofW · 20/12/2024 22:57

Yes you don't need as much space as you might imagine, let's see a diagram OP!

I'm sure you can have all 3 things and feel very spacious !

Checked last night - ours is 4ft wide not 5ft.

LochKatrine · 21/12/2024 09:03

Weyohweyoh · 20/12/2024 18:31

I wouldn’t buy a house with a toiletless en suite. I have to get up to pee in the night far too often for that!

Go to the family bathroom.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/12/2024 09:04

ThisCosyAquaHiker · 20/12/2024 22:08

Have a toilet installed inside the shower - think of the time saving potential!

Used to stay in a flat in Greece that was more or less that. Whole room the size of a toilet. You had to remember to put the toilet roll outside if you wanted a shower.

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