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To remove the toilet from the en suite?

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:29

I’m interested in how people would react if buying a house with an en-suite shower room instead of a more traditional complete en-suite with shower, toilet and basin.

Current set up:
Four bedroom house.

Main family bathroom has toilet, basin, bath with shower over.

Master bedroom has en-suite with toilet, basin and small shower cubicle.

There is a downstairs loo off the hall.

What I want to do:
Remove toilet from the en-suite and replace the shower cubicle with a nice big walk- in shower (not a wet room, a bigger contained modern shower enclosure).

I know MN has Opinions on en-suites and hates the idea of ‘poo-ing off your bedroom’ - but my question is:

YABU - an en-suite should have a toilet

YANBU - a shower room off the master bedroom is much better

I’m a firm believer in having your house how you want it but am thinking of how buyers would react when I do come to sell.

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Maray1967 · 20/12/2024 18:53

Weyohweyoh · 20/12/2024 18:31

I wouldn’t buy a house with a toiletless en suite. I have to get up to pee in the night far too often for that!

Same here. We don’t have one in the master bedroom- our en-suite is in the loft room - but I am definitely having one in our next house and it definitely needs a toilet.

murasaki · 20/12/2024 18:53

I don't want anyone shitting right next to my bedroom, so I agree with you.

Didimum · 20/12/2024 18:54

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:39

One family bathroom with shower over bath

One (new) shower room

Two toilets (one upstairs and one downstairs)

Currently three toilets including the one in the en-suite.

It’s the loss of the toilet that causes the negative for you?

Yes, because it’s not a a fully useable bathroom. We are in a 4 bed with two kids and have two family bathrooms and a downstairs loo, which is a real perk with a family of four, especially as the kids get older and everyone is getting ready in the morning.

If the en-suite/shower room has a nice, large shower, as opposed to a small one, it would be even stranger to me that it has no toilet – as it would sort of have a luxury feel but then to not have a toilet in a set up like that would be quite annoying.

Of course your house would still sell at the right price, but it is still a negative.

SuperfluousHen · 20/12/2024 18:56

The only good thing about an en-suite is the bog.

WasteOfPaint · 20/12/2024 18:58

I don't even like ensuites, but I'd still want it to have a toilet in if I had one.

honeylulu · 20/12/2024 18:58

I would keep a toilet but get a really slim "airline" style one, ideally with integrated wash basin over the cistern as a pp has suggested, to make as much room as possible for a bigger shower. I'm not a huge en suite fan and I don't mind a separate toilet but it still has to be right next door to the bathroom, not down a corridor. I can't tell you how many times I start running the shower and realise I need a quick wee before I hop in. Plus the loo is so handy when dealing with period stuff!

Another bonus of the slimline toilet (we have one squeezed into an extra bathroom in our loft conversion) is that it's not super comfy so OK for a quick wee but will discourage any family member from fancying a leisurely poo in the en suite!

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:59

I think people choose houses for many reasons but this surely would be the very bottom of the list as it can be changed easily.

You’re quite right, @Crazybaby123, but if the house up the street is ‘more perfect’ then mine would be discounted.

I’m in a very small village and there are 40 houses on this new-ish development; only 4 are the same house style as mine. Ours has been extended. So I think if you wanted a four-bed in this village ours would be attractive. When we are ready to move, though, we will be needing to relocate, and I don’t want to hamper myself.

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FlickeringFairyLight · 20/12/2024 19:04

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MathsMum3 · 20/12/2024 19:11

We have the exact same set-up as you have currently. To be clear, would you lose the basin also, or just the toilet? I would definitely want my ensuite to have a basin (and mirror over) for teeth brushing and make up etc., but I could live without the toilet. I never use it during the night anyway for fear of waking up DP (I actually rarely get up during the night, but if I do, I use family bathroom or downstairs loo). However, my DP would think differently. He is of an age where he does get up once or twice per night so would want to keep the toilet in the ensuite.
In terms of house value and potential buyers, I don't think it will make that much difference. I would do whatever makes you happy and suits you best now. It's your home, so you need to make it work for you.

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 19:12

I don’t have any children, @FlickeringFairyLight - we are two adults in the house and I use the en-suite loo and he uses the main bathroom loo!! While the en-suite shower never gets used. That’s why I’m so interested in MN views as the buyers are more likely to be a family.

That slim sink you gave me the link to is genius. I can see there are options I hadn’t considered past my quite obvious solution!

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EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 19:13

Yes, @MathsMum3 i would keep the basin. I do my makeup in the mirror over the basin too.

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DeffoNeedANameChange · 20/12/2024 19:16

I'd rather spend a bit more money remodelling properly to make an actual wet room than spending still quite a lot of money on what would be an odd solution. Surely everyone has a wee before they get in the shower?

NewGreenDuck · 20/12/2024 19:17

I would not buy a property with no loo in the en suite. I like to move from the loo to the shower. My shower cubicle is small but it's fine, I can wash myself easily. The shower in the bathroom is bigger and I don't see any difference.
BTW, if people find using the loo in an ensuite distasteful, do you feel the same about having a bathroom next to your bedroom? To me that's just the same. Loo and bathroom divided by a wall.

PenisWine · 20/12/2024 19:18

I'd much prefer a toilet to a shower in an en suite.

We're buying at the moment, a shower but no toilet would put me off.

Blondeshavemorefun · 20/12/2024 19:18

En suites are fab as long as not a poo loo

Nothing worse then Trying to sleep with the stench of shit

Or make into a total wet room with a toilet one side

Iknitjumpers · 20/12/2024 19:31

I’ve never had an en-suite but I’d certainly expect a loo if I chose a house that had one. An en-suite would be a “nice to have” rather than a definite want.

strawberry2017 · 20/12/2024 19:34

If I was buying a house with an en suite and there was no toilet I wouldn't be interested. You don't need a really big shower. You stand in one place whilst you're in it, why would you need it to be the entire width of the bathroom.

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SleepToad · 20/12/2024 19:36

Locally most houses get a complete 're fit once bought (or even demolished and start again) one customer of mine had a new kitchen fitted before he sold his late mother's....they ripped it out within a week of buying!

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 19:36

strawberry2017 · 20/12/2024 19:34

If I was buying a house with an en suite and there was no toilet I wouldn't be interested. You don't need a really big shower. You stand in one place whilst you're in it, why would you need it to be the entire width of the bathroom.

I want it to be a luxurious big hotel-style walk-in shower. Do I need it? Nope. Do I want it? Hell yeah.

I think I can achieve it by re-orienting it and keeping the loo but having a cistern/basin arrangement.

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strawberry2017 · 20/12/2024 19:38

EmotionalSupportBiscuit · 20/12/2024 18:59

I think people choose houses for many reasons but this surely would be the very bottom of the list as it can be changed easily.

You’re quite right, @Crazybaby123, but if the house up the street is ‘more perfect’ then mine would be discounted.

I’m in a very small village and there are 40 houses on this new-ish development; only 4 are the same house style as mine. Ours has been extended. So I think if you wanted a four-bed in this village ours would be attractive. When we are ready to move, though, we will be needing to relocate, and I don’t want to hamper myself.

I disagree with this, it would be an easy thing to change, it would be costly, would need to change flooring, the plumbing and probably tiling. That's a few grands worth of work.

Welcometotheocbitch · 20/12/2024 19:39

Shocked reading these comments id much prefer a bigger shower and no loo! Wouldn’t put me off buying whatsoever, a tiny shower in the en suite might though!!!

confusedlots · 20/12/2024 19:43

I'd much prefer a bigger shower and to get rid of the toilet. But then I don't get up during the night to use the toilet, so rarely use the en suite toilet, because during the day I usually either use the downstairs toilet or the main family bathroom

Purplecatshopaholic · 20/12/2024 19:43

Naw, I’d want to keep the toilet. If you don’t, just make sure you can put it back in if you sell. Might affect house price too, so mortgage company would have a view?

gamerchick · 20/12/2024 19:44

Forever house fine. If you want to sell then I wouldn't.