Ageism,ignorance, intolerance. class bias on mumsnet re Waspi women

[CAJIE]

I did not honestly expect any compensation though I might have hoped. Iwas aware of this change but did not have the chance to make extra provision for it.I do have a professional pension but will have to wait a while longer for the state pension which is extremely challenging.My plans were changed by covid and I doubt I will be employed again except possibly on poor and temporary contracts or gig economy.Secondary school supply on a daily basis has more or less gone.
However what appals me is the attitudes of many mumsnetters who assume that everyone has the abiity to understand pensions and that the Waspi women should have taken so called control of their situation.Maybe some could but there is a hell of a lot of class bias towards the women in lower paid jobs who perhaps were overwhelmed by struggling to survive and did not understand or read the news or the pension changes were not clearly explained to them.Pensions can be hard to understand and provoke anxiety.This appalling prejudice that all older people are rolling in it and this nice habit of some younger women to be sadly quite misogynistic and ageist towards women who are in poverty is very concerning.All sections of society should thrive even in older age and perhaps you younger women should be challenging society, housing costs, the whole ideology of owning a house and actually trying to build something new rather than bitching about what boomers have and their endless cruises etc.
.You are turning against your sex and the comments are cruel and harsh.You know nothing about these womens lives.
Starmer wants to punish older people and older women are always a good target.Your spite about all the things that boomers are supposed to have and you apparently dont is unpleasant.Women beware women.Very sad and against justice.

How did you vote in the Brexit referendum as a matter of interest?

I do understand the gist of this. Am a similar age and definitely was ignorant about pensions because my husband was in a high income job. I am ex NHS so have a decent pension and now working as a Registered Nurse in a care home. The pension is rubbish and I do worry about how the low income workers will manage .
It really does worry me .

I've seen much the same on Twitter, where there have been various barbed comments about "white middle-class women". Most of the WASPIs that I know are working class women who were not allowed to have equal pay in the earlier years of their working life and had no ability to pay into a works pension.

What relevance does that have to the OP ..very odd comment!
Who did you vote for in GE as a matter of interest?

There seem to be some very embittered people out there these days, everyone is a target and everyone else is to blame. Women need to support each other not be constantly having a go.

There are a lot of people who agree with the decision not to award compensation and have been vocal about it on MN. It doesnt make them ageist, etc...

Horrible isn't it.

And which horse did you back in the Grand National? Just as relevant as this idiotic spew.

Your post is a great reason to increase pension credits, or minimums. But it's not a good reason to give 1-3K to a lot of people who knew, and can afford it. 10 billion quid FFS.

But poorer older women should be assisted. This is a terrible way to do it.

I agree with everything the OP said. I am 65 and I voted remain, as if it’s relevant!

It's entirely relevant. Solidarity has to work both ways. Sell younger women's futures you can complain when they sell yours.

But the simpletons assume everyone over 60 voted to leave, bless!

Oh well glad to hear that..the lovely people I work with who have worked 12 hour shifts at least 48 hours a week will be able to claim pension credits! Not sure about savings,the people I work with, literally work one month to pay next month’s bills .

I am in much the same boat and would you believe it? I voted Remain. And I am a life long Labour voter. And I spent my teens to my 30s actively campaigning for women’s rights and the equal pay etc that younger women rightfully benefit from.

Does that entitle me to an opinion, in your view?

Actually I have only a tiny private pension because I always worked in the charity sector, and before it was compulsory (I.e the majority of my working life) we got no employer’s contribution at all.

The gender pay gap was still huge for most of my working life, schools didn’t used to have nurseries , no free childcare hours.

I did know about the changes to the pension, but women as a class were less able to catch up then

But this thread is about the contempt and vitriol sloshed around MN for older people and especially older women.

Absolutely.Some posters should be bloody ashamed of their comments!

In 1975, when most of us "boomers" were in our late teens, early 20s, the referendum vote was 67.23% in favour of the EEC, which became the EU. I didn't change my mind about staying in, and neither did anyone I know of my age. However, of those I know, the ones that voted out were those 10 to 20 years younger than myself, ie young adults in the 1980s.
The UK was desperate to join. We had to wait for the president of France to snuff it. Britain first began talks to join the EEC in July 1961. The UK's applications to join in 1963 and 1967 were vetoed by the President of France, Charles de Gaulle.

So angry with the presumption that because Im over 60 I must have voted to leave the EU. For those who make these ageist assumptions, just don't, it paints you in a very ignorant light.

The poster asked a question. There wasn't an assumption. Almost half of the WASPIs would have voted remain.

That is a fair question and discussion.
And most women (and men) my age are deeply concerned about their children and grandchildren’s futures.

What isn’t disappointing is the vitriol that is spewed , and the divisiveness that people have fallen for.

Like the first comment on this thread.

I dunno.

I felt so depressed by the end of today.

As a feminist since 14 I have leant support to so many battles, seen so many good progressive changes.

And yet the seething contempt for women as a sex seems stronger than ever (the treatment of Gisèle Pelicot being only one example. The pathetic sentences most of their unrepentant rapists got, the fact that so many who lived locally could so easily be recruited as rapists). This year we have seen women robbed of sporting medals and physically endangered because gender trumps (tramples) class. Andrew Tate made himself a fortune from his followers lapping misogyny.

Women need to stick together.

Bully for her

I am a woman who has been on a low income all her life. I will not get pension credit as I also saved.