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Ageism,ignorance, intolerance. class bias on mumsnet re Waspi women

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CAJIE · 20/12/2024 00:27

I did not honestly expect any compensation though I might have hoped. Iwas aware of this change but did not have the chance to make extra provision for it.I do have a professional pension but will have to wait a while longer for the state pension which is extremely challenging.My plans were changed by covid and I doubt I will be employed again except possibly on poor and temporary contracts or gig economy.Secondary school supply on a daily basis has more or less gone.
However what appals me is the attitudes of many mumsnetters who assume that everyone has the abiity to understand pensions and that the Waspi women should have taken so called control of their situation.Maybe some could but there is a hell of a lot of class bias towards the women in lower paid jobs who perhaps were overwhelmed by struggling to survive and did not understand or read the news or the pension changes were not clearly explained to them.Pensions can be hard to understand and provoke anxiety.This appalling prejudice that all older people are rolling in it and this nice habit of some younger women to be sadly quite misogynistic and ageist towards women who are in poverty is very concerning.All sections of society should thrive even in older age and perhaps you younger women should be challenging society, housing costs, the whole ideology of owning a house and actually trying to build something new rather than bitching about what boomers have and their endless cruises etc.
.You are turning against your sex and the comments are cruel and harsh.You know nothing about these womens lives.
Starmer wants to punish older people and older women are always a good target.Your spite about all the things that boomers are supposed to have and you apparently dont is unpleasant.Women beware women.Very sad and against justice.

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JRSKSSBH · 23/12/2024 19:46

Shame on you.

JRSKSSBH · 23/12/2024 19:48

nepkoztarsasag · 20/12/2024 00:41

How did you vote in the Brexit referendum as a matter of interest?

My comment above was aimed at you fr your spiteful, veiled remark.

wombat15 · 23/12/2024 19:54

MerryMaker · 23/12/2024 17:44

@Shwish I totally agree with you. But people are reacting against younger people who say older people were privileged to go to university for free. I am 62 from a poor background. When I was at school nearly the whole year left school at 16 years old. Generally the people privileged now are the people privileged back then i.e. people from families with money who are supportive.

If the whole year group left at 16 I presume you went to a secondary modern and the majority of people weren't very academic

My parents went to university in the 60s. I went in the 80s. There was more competition in terms of being academic but you didn't have to pay a tuition fee and if from a poor background you had a maintenance grant. Afterwards relatively easy for graduates to get a good job as there wasn't so much competition. Most professions didn't require a degree then either so even if you didn't go to university you can still get a good job.

WearyAuldWumman · 23/12/2024 20:19

Waitfortheguinness · 23/12/2024 19:42

A lot of people don’t “choose” early retirement, a lot of those have had to make difficult choices having been blindsided due to serious ill health or being made redundant with little hope of walking into another job!

This. I miss being a WASPI by a whisker and I'm okay - I can manage on my work pension, though I'm not as comfortable as I'd expected given the inevitable reduction in pension.

My husband had a stroke which left him with permanent disabilities. This meant that he needed my help to shower, dress, undress etc. He also needed my help with cutting up food, with medication and with getting up during the night.

When I was 57, I was allowed to cut my hours to a 4 day week. The following year, I asked to cut back to a 3 day week, but that was disallowed.

The problem was that my DH needed frequent medical appointments and I was only allowed 5 days compassionate leave a year. It wasn't possible to schedule all his appointments during holiday time. I was also finding that I was being expected to do 5 days work in 4 - not so easy, particularly when you're surviving on broken sleep.

Reluctantly, I quit and retired at 58.

I'm not saying this to complain: I'm just offering this as an example of why people sometimes need to retire earlier.

Seymour5 · 23/12/2024 20:33

MerryMaker · 23/12/2024 17:44

@Shwish I totally agree with you. But people are reacting against younger people who say older people were privileged to go to university for free. I am 62 from a poor background. When I was at school nearly the whole year left school at 16 years old. Generally the people privileged now are the people privileged back then i.e. people from families with money who are supportive.

I’m in my 70s, left school at 15. Dh similar, and he grew up on a rough estate with a ‘know your place’ culture. We got away from that lifestyle, because we wanted our DC to have better opportunities.

Our DC and their partners have professional careers, with good qualifications. They have lovely homes in affluent areas, great holidays, good cars etc. Our DGC have lots of extra curricular activities, go to great schools and I see them as privileged, but they are only one generation away from us.

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