to be annoyed at so much racism re “the boat people”

[NavyOrca]

A large hotel local-ish to us (around 10 miles away) is currently closed for bookings as it is being occupied by just under 400 asylum seekers.

Recently, in our village and a couple of neighbouring ones, there has been a spate of parcels being stolen from doorsteps. I’m sure you can all work out who has taken the blame for this….! Even though one of the perpetrators is known to be a local lad, born and bred in our village, some people are still blaming others..

The comments on Facebook community groups are disgusting.

Since when has it been acceptable to so readily stick the blame upon those literally fleeing their countries?

I honestly feel that as a human race, we are devolving.

💯 👏 Excellent post!

And don't forget Idi Amin who kicked out Ugandan Asians and stole their wealth .

Is that a joke?

I know a load of Ugandan Asians who got fucked out of Uganda in the 60's.

It wasn't funny.

And hilariously, my white relations were East Africe Rifles.

Idi Amin wasn't ok

My white forefathers were abolitionist.

They're allover the National Portrait gallery.

I don't feel bad about them. I feel good about them.

Just seen this post now and the polling has since closed, I'd have voted YANBU though.
Our local FB group sounds the same, absolutely full of bile and dare say incitement in places.
Sickening

That just doesn't even make sense.
I live in a town/city, are you seriously saying that you know everyone in it?
You don't know "all local people"
Half of them could be a danger for all you know.

A lot of people are more likely to speak English than French, so want to go to an English speaking country as they feel they would have more opportunity there.
I know if God forbid we all had to suddenly flee I'd want to preferably go somewhere I know the language.

Then how comes so many of them need EFL lessons?

How would you know if they do or not?
Source?
Stands to reason some people will and others won't.

Exactly this
Can you imagine doing this with two toddlers in tow?!
I could barely manage to get into town without it turning into à major arse ache, load up the changing bag with nappies and snacks, I'm only going on a twenty minute walk but it ends up turning into a bloody expedition and what feels like 5 hours trying to get ready to get out the door... 😭😁
Would make sense to send DH off first if we had to get out for any reason then we could follow

Tell me you don't live near an asylum hotel without telling me.

You bloody would if you were in actual danger.

I bloody would what?
Not sure what part of my post you're referring to there?!
Why would you not be in danger if your husband went ahead first to try and find somewhere?
Doesn't mean you're automatically safe and don't give a shit.

We've got one near.
What are they actually doing wrong? I don't automatically fear them.

@MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance

I live in a town/city, are you seriously saying that you know everyone in it?
You don't know "all local people"
Half of them could be a danger for all you know.

I assumed the prior poster meant "we", collectively, know who the troublemakers are in our own town (including our police).

But actually, I think you know more than you realise, about who is and isn't a danger in your own town/culture/country. A thousand cues tell you, and that's before you include knowledge of specific individuals.

And (as someone who has lived in many countries), the difference between the most kindly people from the most orderly cultures and the most dangerous people from the most disordered cultures is absolutely massive. Like 100x or 1000x difference in threat. The difference between being able to leave your laptop on the cafe table when you go to the loo, with random strangers around, to locking you wallet and phone up at home becuase there's a fair chance you will be mugged by any given random stranger.

I now have those antennae for half-a-dozen places on earth. But that's from experience, not from magic. It's not a sign of prejudice to realise that a large group of asylum seekers could (indeed, I'd say, will) contain both some of the best and some of the worst kinds of people. And if it's a culture you're not familar with, you aren't yet going to be great at telling which.

I suppose the short verison of my post is that it's not irrational to fear the unknown. Indeed the unknown is about the only thing that it is rational to fear.

(as well as to be excited, curious about, etc.).

Because for many of them English is their second language, they stand a much better chance of being able o build a life & contribute to society.

Also many - in fact most do stay in other countries:

Germany reported the largest total number of immigrants (2.1 million) in 2022, followed by Spain (1.3 million), France (0.4 million) and Italy (0.4 million). Germany also reported the highest number of emigrants in 2022 (533 500), followed by Spain (531 900), France (249 400), Poland (228 000) and Romania (202 300).

For one the conditions are utterly horrific - people living in a rubbish dump essentially.

Wanting to move to a particular country because you’re looking for work, already speak the language a bit, or because that’s where you mate is headed or your uncle lives is understandable.

I‘m pretty sure there are many people out there who would like to move elsewhere for similar reasons. In most cases they would need a visa though.

I know several people who have close relatives in other countries, myself included, who can’t just bring them over to live with them.

I remember watching an interview with Konstantin Kisin from Triggernometry. He was saying how his own mother wasn’t even granted a visitor visa to come over from Russia to see her newborn grandchild in the UK.

That’s the reality of many migrants, speaking the language of or having relatives in a particular country doesn’t automatically give us the right to move there.

“Fleeing their country” from what? Why are they all men? Where are the women and children?

Already been mentioned.

Sorry@MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance I have previously written about this, but nobody is interested.

It was never about refuge and always about money.

Do you have evidence of that? They've been coming for a while, so there will be lots of data backing up your claims.

If you didn’t give them money and cracked down on under-the-table work, they wouldn’t even come. There would be little point