to be annoyed at so much racism re “the boat people”

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A large hotel local-ish to us (around 10 miles away) is currently closed for bookings as it is being occupied by just under 400 asylum seekers.

Recently, in our village and a couple of neighbouring ones, there has been a spate of parcels being stolen from doorsteps. I’m sure you can all work out who has taken the blame for this….! Even though one of the perpetrators is known to be a local lad, born and bred in our village, some people are still blaming others..

The comments on Facebook community groups are disgusting.

Since when has it been acceptable to so readily stick the blame upon those literally fleeing their countries?

I honestly feel that as a human race, we are devolving.

This is a very poor and inaccurate assessment. Not remotely factually correct either. In many countries it was the British that stopped slavery. You have conveniently air brushed that out.

Please educate yourself before posting.

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Britains-Role-Ending-Slavery-Worldwide/

The vast majority are NOT refugees

they are illegal economic immigrants and it’s costing this country massively both in £ and safety

they purposely don’t bring id because they know they would be refused right to remain

tje vast majority have zero rights to be here

thousands upon thousands of young men arriving from cultures with completely different cultural and religious backgrounds and disgusting attitudes towards woman, yet no one has the right to question? Oh please, completely fed up with nonsense left wing bs that mass migration is positive in any way ( it’s not) and if that makes me far right to want to preserve British’s culture, not have it turned into an Islamic state, and for my daughters to be able to walk around safely with intimidation and fears of abuse on the streets then so be it

I want legal immigration, bringing people in to plug skills gaps, strict and necessary like new Zealand and Oz.

I want to take refugees, again legally, vetted and in amounts that we can treat them well, we don't rob from anywhere in our country and in numbers we can cope with in every way and doesn't cause social issues.

*Rubytuesday77 · 19/12/2024 02:18
You actually think it’s racist to object to hundreds of young men plonked in hotels often in areas right near to a school? many of whom haven’t even come from a war torn country. Meanwhile our own homeless ignored and refused the privilege of a warm bed for the night.

Yes. Racist and vile. Shame on you.

It's not a made up story for the men who were there though is it. You are calling them cowards for running away when that is the very real choice they faced. If they stayed they would be killed by one side or the other for not joining them but there was no "good side" for them to join. If you don't think people fleeing that situation are genuine refugees then I don't know who you think are?

However it’s not the fault of either of the groups of homeless. People need to start looking at who is actually to blame. It’s not our homeless or the immigrants. It always suprises me when I hear people saying things like they come over and take our jobs and our homes because I find the people that complain about the job taking generally are not interested in the jobs that the immigrants take and secondly the people living in the hotel did not get up one morning and think I have decided to live for free in a hotel in England. The questions how and why they are there? should point you more in the direction of the people that should be blamed.

Nothing really changes the National Front ,BNP were using they're taking our jobs,homes etc 40 years ago.

Again, typical of brits to deflect from their wrongdoings. Noone said what the Chinese are doing is right so im not sure what your point is in showing that video. All it proves is that brits helped destabilise the continent and they were unable to recover, meaning greedy nations have taken advantage of that and continue to extort them. Africa has not been free for hundreds of years and what's happening in this awful video is nothing compared to what the brits did and continue to do to the nation.

People currently living as slaves “is nothing”.

And you think you’re morally superior how exactly?

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Your ignorance, bigotry and racism is breath taking.

1. I'm not a 'Brit' but having escaped from an actually evil place to this wonderful country, I am a fan.

2. You have a video, right in front of your own eyes, of a Chinese OWNER beating his African workers, they look like young boys. And you first thought is... it must be someone in Britain's fault.

You didn't even look any further into it did you? Of the atrocities currently being committed in the continent of Africa? Actual colonisation and slavery, happening right now.

But you are so blinded by hate that you don't actually care about those beaten boys or the people suffering right now, those black people from the past are only of use to you if you can use them as a stick to beat other unrelated british people with.

You genuinely said 'This doesn't matter because what I imagine in the past is so much worse'.

Ignorance and cruelty are not a good look, but you should hold up a mirror just the same.

Exactly.
The immigrants are not allowed to work and are bored and frustrated waiting years to be processed. Most just want to build a life.

However whilst there is a large amount of racism I'm reminded that during WW2 when American soldiers were in the UK to do a job they were still disliked by many in the communities where they lived.
Men seem very threatened by large groups of men from other countries whatever their race.

Ah, an article to clear white guilt. Are the millions of Africans who were enslaved for hundreds of years and their descendants supposed to be grateful that some brits had morals and opposed slavery? This is white saviour complex at its best. Instead of agreeing that it was a shameful time in history you attempt to justify british actions. They did not do africans a favour and it would take centuries for africa to recover and enjoy some stability. The amount of "compensation" paid to slave owners (not africans) is nothing compared to the profit Britain made from the slave trade. If you read the article it says that the abolitionists argued that British presence should remain in africa to trade in palm oil which belonged to Africa-they still wouldn't leave Africans alone. The problem many brits have is they only want to claim their "victories" of the past and gloss over their atrocities.

Makes sense.

“Men seem very threatened by large groups of men”

Women seem very threatened by large groups of men… because statistically they are.

Have you actually looked up the definition of racism and bigotry? Have you ever read the history of the slave trade and how its impacted Africa and other nations treatment of Africa today? Its all good all well deflecting and focusing on what's happening in a disgusting video. There is a wider perspective that you are ignoring which has directly contributed to what Africans are facing today. Speaking the truth about Britain's role in colonialism and how its linked to mass emigration today is now racism and bigotry apparently. I forgot, we're not supposed to speak the truth in case some brits feelings get hurt. You claim to be from another country but the majority of people (not myself) on this thread don't even want you here! The people who need to hold a mirror up are the racists who don't want people like you who are seeking a better life to be here.

I live not too far from a hostel housing young male economic migrants. There have been loads of incidents, schoolgirls followed etc. But anyone speaking out is demonised as racist by local politicians, in the national press and on forums like this (I'll never forget the threads), especially the schoolgirl victims themselves. Cologne was the same.

During this time period, humans treated other humans appallingly.
The English were not unique in their disregard for human life and the Africans were not unique in their victimhood of this.

We sent children up chimneys. We sent children down the mines. We sent men off to wars with no regard for for the loss of life. Women have been treated as little more than slaves for a millennia.

Most humans were seen as worthless and disposable to most other humans. They didn’t have health care or financial protections. It was all about survival of the fittest. Getting as much as you can, while you can. It’s unreasonable to expect these people to have the same values as we do now. It’s even more unreadable to expect them to have these values 300 hundred years ago but also not have an issue with people treating other people this way right now.

I understand it makes you feel good about yourself, but it’s nonsensical and unhelpful.

Slavery was no longer profitable, so Britain decided to end it by paying for the freedom of every slave in the empire? How does that work economically?

“You claim to be from another country but the majority of people (not myself) on this thread don't even want you here!”

This is not true @Kianai

Don’t let @Giselleb1 make you feel unwelcome in your country. You know the difference between refugees/ legal immigrants and undocumented, male illegal immigrants being housed en masse in small areas.

Please don’t let this poster emotionally manipulate you.

No one has ever expressed that I shouldn't be here, the opposite in fact.

And yes, I know the definition of racism and bigotry. The irony that you can not see it in yourself while waving and pointing at others is not lost on me.

It is clearly a waste of time talking to you. You can not see past your own hate, that much is clear from your posts. You will accept no atrocity that you can't turn to your own twisted thoughts.

I feel pity for you.

You did.

Many of these asylum seekers come here because they have family links. Why can’t that family member sponsor them? A) no cost to taxpayer and B) someone would be vouching for the good character.
In fact I think that does happen but it is done quietly. There was a report that when Labour got in to power, they wanted to shut down a boat used for asylum seekers but discovered no one was there and some had been placed with family members already established in Britain.

Possibly because the images we see on the news are of boats full of men arriving illegally into the country.

I’d rather live by one racist if I’m being totally honest than 400 young men from third world cultures. I really don’t care about ‘mean words’ anymore