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To be worried about what the Labour government will do next?

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Scenicgirl · 17/12/2024 22:46

Let's be honest, Labour has been a massive disappointment for this country, pissing off the pensioners with taking away the WFA, the farmers, NI changes which impact employers, immigration etc and today refusing compensation to the WASPI women after they ridiculed the Conservatives when they didn't commit to a solution. Don't we deserve better than this constant shit show of lies and deceptions which were clearly spouted out purely to gain power?
For the 1st time in my life, I worry about where we are heading.

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EasternStandard · 18/12/2024 21:35

@Aduvetday ik I don't think it'll register for some on mn until it hits public sector funding

Aduvetday · 18/12/2024 21:42

EasternStandard · 18/12/2024 21:35

@Aduvetday ik I don't think it'll register for some on mn until it hits public sector funding

It’s actually mind boggling really. No-one can answer WHERE this money is coming from. Business, the private sector and economists warned people. “Off you fuck, take your money with you, you won’t be missed….blah, blah, blah.”

So yeah, job loses, hiring freezes, biggest contraction of The City in over a decade, shrinking economy, private companies relocating and reducing investment. How on earth do people think we are going to fund the state services we need?

We have a huge problem incoming and we are sleep walking in to it. Once we can no longer blame the Tories - it will be immigration. Whoever said about us being 4 years behind the USA - I’d agree. It’s going to be so catastrophic that people will feel they are out of options. Already happening in the polls.

Papyrophile · 18/12/2024 21:54

I agree @Aduvetday Once you run out of parties to blame, and the decisions are still not what you want, you begin to understand it wasn't the Tories that made bad choices,

EasternStandard · 18/12/2024 21:59

Aduvetday · 18/12/2024 21:42

It’s actually mind boggling really. No-one can answer WHERE this money is coming from. Business, the private sector and economists warned people. “Off you fuck, take your money with you, you won’t be missed….blah, blah, blah.”

So yeah, job loses, hiring freezes, biggest contraction of The City in over a decade, shrinking economy, private companies relocating and reducing investment. How on earth do people think we are going to fund the state services we need?

We have a huge problem incoming and we are sleep walking in to it. Once we can no longer blame the Tories - it will be immigration. Whoever said about us being 4 years behind the USA - I’d agree. It’s going to be so catastrophic that people will feel they are out of options. Already happening in the polls.

Outside mn you can see it but then on these threads I think surely pp get what's happening and have moved beyond insults and crying laughing etc by now

Maybe it's the public sector / private sector divide. People will defend Labour to the hilt until they realise reducing the private sector at will won't help funding but the opposite

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/12/2024 22:08

I don't think it'll register for some on mn until it hits public sector funding

You don’t think public sector funding has been hit? Really?

EasternStandard · 18/12/2024 22:09

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/12/2024 22:08

I don't think it'll register for some on mn until it hits public sector funding

You don’t think public sector funding has been hit? Really?

You don't think private sector contracting will hit it more? Really?

Feelsomuchbetter · 18/12/2024 22:11

ManHereSorry · 17/12/2024 22:57

Hopefully more policies aimed at reversing this country’s massive decline. They won’t get everything right but it’s a relief not having the Tories in charge. It’s a shame that Farage is about to be bankrolled by Musk though, the next general election will probably lead to complete chaos which will cause havoc for years to come. Then you’ll be wishing for Starmer to come back and be boring again.

Yes we will probably end up with Farage as a puppet PM for Elon and Holly Candy as chancellor

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db11 · 18/12/2024 22:12

Way too early to judge. They are clearing up after the messiest children’s party you can imagine. It will take years.

Katypp · 18/12/2024 22:18

db11 · 18/12/2024 22:12

Way too early to judge. They are clearing up after the messiest children’s party you can imagine. It will take years.

Yes I think that's the excuse they are relying on

Aduvetday · 18/12/2024 22:19

Really? Did you read the MNHQ post about bot hunting? On this very thread too? People can worry about the stage of the economy without being a plant.

TofuTart · 18/12/2024 22:19

Off topic, sorry but ooh we have reacts now!
That's new! 😁

Ilovetowander · 18/12/2024 22:20

The lack of integrity and honestly is the worry, it seems that the Labour Party were not honest in what they said prior to the election . At least with the their policy on Independent schools they were honest and there was no doubt about what they were going to do, honker the WASPIE women is I am afraid the final straw isn regard to their integrity following the winter fuel allowance and the budget. To have supported these women and now to sy they cannot be compensated shows a lack of integrity - had they not have supported them/ had photo opportunities and spoke n ins support then it would not have been a problem. I would not trust the Labour Party now and don't think they have any moral high ground whatsoever.

TofuTart · 18/12/2024 22:21

HedgehogCabinFan · 18/12/2024 20:27

’Proper grown ups’ ~ seriously?
None of this lot have ever even run a business. Rachel from Accounts and Free Gear Kier have turned this country into a laughing stock.

Free Gear Kier. That's original.
Did you think that up all by yourself?! 😂

Julen7 · 18/12/2024 22:21

db11 · 18/12/2024 22:12

Way too early to judge. They are clearing up after the messiest children’s party you can imagine. It will take years.

They don’t have years. They will never be re-elected.

spuddy4 · 18/12/2024 22:25

db11 · 18/12/2024 22:12

Way too early to judge. They are clearing up after the messiest children’s party you can imagine. It will take years.

Wasn't that the same excuse that the Tories gave when they took power after Labour? Same old bull shit lines trotted out by whoever is in charge, blaming each other like children.

TofuTart · 18/12/2024 22:27

Julen7 · 18/12/2024 22:21

They don’t have years. They will never be re-elected.

Ow do's, Mystic Meg

Scenicgirl · 18/12/2024 22:34

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/12/2024 20:10

WASPI women: Were they not paying attention when all this was going down? I'm not a WASPI woman but I was here when this decision was made and I knew about it. I'm no genius, I just keep up with the news.

And honestly is £1-3k going to make a significant difference to to lives of many of these women if their pension plans were utterly ruined by the change in retirement date? Will it make up for additional years working or fill the gap in their pension funds? We don’t have money kicking around to pay for the principle of the thing, which is what that feels like.

Maybe we could take the £10billion it would cost out of the education budget, or health maybe, or social care.

Or maybe from the original 180 billion saved in 2010 by raising the state pension age by the Coalition government and to add insult to injury George Osborne "boasted that it was easiest money he had ever saved".
And to the unsympathetic people who pour scorn on the WASPI women's so called ignorance, let it act as a reminder that it could happen to you.

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HopelesslyOptimistic · 18/12/2024 22:38

I want government shrinkage. Less interference, actually I want them to fuck right off! Let the markets do their thing. I'm so so fed up with decades of the same shite. With the amazing shift in technology why oh why is life not more prosperous.. we work hard, they steal through taxation (income, Vat, corporation, inheritance, capital gains) spend so inefficiently (because they haven't had to work for the free tax) & people suffer. I've just binned my BBC TV licence, I'm furious at water pollution and how these criminal companies get away dumping sewage into our waters. I'm pissed off (I've never sworn so much 😂) at energy companies standing charges (for what) before we have even used energy. Im usually half full but life at the moment is a simple scam. Amen 🙏

Betchyaby · 18/12/2024 22:41

@Papyrophile I can imagine your concern! DH and I often talk of where we are going to piss off to if things carry on as they are.

SpunkyCritic · 18/12/2024 22:42

And now backtracking on protecting single spaces as predicted.
We need you, Kemi!

sparksflied · 18/12/2024 22:43

HopelesslyOptimistic · 18/12/2024 22:38

I want government shrinkage. Less interference, actually I want them to fuck right off! Let the markets do their thing. I'm so so fed up with decades of the same shite. With the amazing shift in technology why oh why is life not more prosperous.. we work hard, they steal through taxation (income, Vat, corporation, inheritance, capital gains) spend so inefficiently (because they haven't had to work for the free tax) & people suffer. I've just binned my BBC TV licence, I'm furious at water pollution and how these criminal companies get away dumping sewage into our waters. I'm pissed off (I've never sworn so much 😂) at energy companies standing charges (for what) before we have even used energy. Im usually half full but life at the moment is a simple scam. Amen 🙏

But - energy and water companies are private enterprises. This IS the market

MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 18/12/2024 22:44

Scenicgirl · 18/12/2024 22:34

Or maybe from the original 180 billion saved in 2010 by raising the state pension age by the Coalition government and to add insult to injury George Osborne "boasted that it was easiest money he had ever saved".
And to the unsympathetic people who pour scorn on the WASPI women's so called ignorance, let it act as a reminder that it could happen to you.

Let’s spend the money we saved paying back the money we saved? Yeah, makes sense…

Pension age is rising, we know about this, it’s not a surprise.

BIossomtoes · 18/12/2024 22:46

They want us to save for retirement yet they now steal it through inheritance tax.

How does that work? You can’t be alive and retired and dead simultaneously. And there are no pockets in shrouds.

Julen7 · 18/12/2024 22:47

TofuTart · 18/12/2024 22:27

Ow do's, Mystic Meg

I don’t think you need to be a clairvoyant

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